Is This A Real Technique?

Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
edited June 2005 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">Or is this guy BSing.</div> <a href='http://www.big-boys.com/articles/kungfufighter.html' target='_blank'>Guy busts into Kung Fu while being bullied.</a>

<span style='color:orange'>Language warning: as is typical with this type of fight, the first confrontation between parties is verbal. Expect some unnecessary cursing at the beginning.</span>

I mean, it looks like a huge joke for almost the entire video. Then suddenly at the end, he one hit KO's that mother****** like it ain't no thing. That's when I thought to myself... "Is this for real? The video is way to real to be fake in my opinion, but is that stance and those moves for real?" Well this is a repost from another forum, and the person in that forum called his technique "The Five Grand Illusional Fists of Ancient China" but I thought she was joking, though she is Chinese.

Anyway the video is interesting, simply because you almost never see something like that. But if anyone knows anything about this sort of thing, which is possible since it's this forum and people here have varied backgrounds [...], just take a look at the video and see if you recognize his stance. I'm curious now and the site that hosts the video knows nothing about this sort of thing and just calls it Kung Fu.
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  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    I saw this on Entensity. It rules the stupid cholo got his *** served on a silver platter.

    I'm hoping it's real.
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    Yeah I'm kinda glad he busted into that guy like that. It brings validity to his fighting style and people won't laugh next time, because they'll know he could tear them up.
  • cshank4cshank4 Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13425Members
    That's not a kung-fu stance, looks like jujitsu to me, or tae-kwon-do. (Don't quote that though.)

    Although, this is probably real since that's what the whole basis of martial arts is, use the opponents moves against them and/or take out the mofo fast **** like.
  • Marik_SteeleMarik_Steele To rule in hell... Join Date: 2002-11-20 Member: 9466Members
    I think it's less a case of good moves from the fancy guy, and more a case of the original agressor not having a bloody clue what he's doing.

    Just look at him. The most active stance he gets into is one where he has his hands bobbing around at chest height. Then his attacks consist of overhand sloppiness and general wailing around. And it's punches at all ranges (kick range, punch range, and tighter ranges), no kicks at all.

    Not to mention he's spent the first half of the fight hyperventilating from laughter. He had no idea what he was getting himself into, and no clue how to deal with one hit to the face.
  • cshank4cshank4 Join Date: 2003-02-11 Member: 13425Members
    Sigh, what happened to the good old days of dueling and fisticuffs? Now we have morons on the street that'd shoot you for a popeye's chicken bowl or whatnot.


    *shoots flintlock at next poster*
  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    i dont think the stance and stuff was real i think it was just a lucky swing because when the other guy was swinging it looked like the kung fu guy was just dashing randomly with his arms flailing about
  • minskminsk Join Date: 2003-01-09 Member: 12077Members
    edited June 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-cshank4+Jun 25 2005, 03:32 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (cshank4 @ Jun 25 2005, 03:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> *shoots flintlock at next poster* <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    argh, you missed... *dies*

    Wish I still had my sensei's e-mail address, she'd be in hysterics watching that little brawl. Wouldn't call either overly competent... the blocking was a little, erm, random. And honestly, who in their right mind throws a round-house in a fight?
  • RatonetwothreetwooneRatonetwothreetwoone Join Date: 2004-03-23 Member: 27504Members
    yeah well the kung fu guy didnt get hit.. leet hax
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    But if his stance was fake, why bother?
  • GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Chrono+Jun 25 2005, 02:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chrono @ Jun 25 2005, 02:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i dont think the stance and stuff was real i think it was just a lucky swing because when the other guy was swinging it looked like the kung fu guy was just dashing randomly with his arms flailing about <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nah, look at it again and watch closely. He dodges every punch, the flailing arms is just for show/a distraction/coincidence/whatever. Didn't look fake to me.
  • DOOManiacDOOManiac Worst. Critic. Ever. Join Date: 2002-04-17 Member: 462Members, NS1 Playtester
    The moves looks kinda familiar from Mortal Kombat 5... Dunno if that means anything or not. :P
  • Speed_2_DaveSpeed_2_Dave Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8788Members
    watched the video. I was saddened by "kung fu guy"'s blatant advertisement of "ooooh I know kung fu." I too believe he got lucky on the not being hit part. Mostly because his aggressor was completely bewildered and had no idea how to approach someone who might be able to defend himself. Not his usual prey, I'd imagine.

    [aside]One time someone tried to bully me. I gave him 3 verbal warnings that I wasn't going to put up with his crap. He then charged at me, probably just to make me flinch... I kicked him in the groin when he came in range (this was at school--you can't leave visible marks... everyone knows that.) Nobody ever bothered me (physically) again.[/aside]

    Back on topic, I don't think he "KO'ed" the other guy at the end of the video. I think he got one good lick in. The other guy is just shocked and humiliated due to the fact that his "sissy girl style" was not as leet as the other guys "oooooooh I know kung fuuuuuuu style"

    The white kid was also a good head taller, probably slightly more muscular, and not mentally retarded. The fight was totally unfair, he should feel bad for hitting that poor boy so hard. I would've just checked him a few times in the chest with a front kick (whenever he'd charge. Kids like that don't learn the first 4-5 times)

    I hope for Kung Fu boy's sake his instructor never sees this video. It's shameful.
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    Not the type to believe that trash needs taking out, eh?
  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    Chavs will think twice before picking on that guy again <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Speed_2_DaveSpeed_2_Dave Join Date: 2002-11-15 Member: 8788Members
    to quote Supertroopers
    "If you were my wife, I'd take you down a peg(notch?) or two."

    The aggressor obviously had an issue with kung fu dude. Unfortunately for both of them, kung fu dude seemed to choose physical confrontation over avoidance.

    You see trouble, you go away. Trouble follows, you warn and go away. Trouble continues following, you ignore, but watch. Trouble aggresses, you own, and go away. You aren't there to prove anything. If you want to prove your skills, take up Xtreme Fight Challenge, or go to a sponsored tournament. The streets are for Krav Maga, imo.

    I'd argue both deserved to be taken down. The guy who got owned deserved to get owned. His fighting style was typical of the trash talker. 99% talk, 1% flailing. The sad part is how the trash-talker probably had more practical fighting experience than his counterpart (you can tell by how awkwardly he remains in stance. You're supposed to move around, not hobble around) and STILL lost.

    Oh, and don't take me too seriously. For going on 4-5 years now I've been a tried and true pacifist. Luckily nobody's gone past following me after receiving a warning. Not sure if I'm bluffing or not (I know how to hurt people, that doesn't mean I want to, and it might mean I won't hurt them until my life is endangered)
  • MulletMullet Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15910Members, Constellation
    I've never been in a fight, go me
  • CMEastCMEast Join Date: 2002-05-19 Member: 632Members
    I've been in loads <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    He should have just smacked him like that from the off instead of poncing around like that. Dumb poser, I hope the next fight he's in someone smacks him while he's in the middle of doing his little dance steps.
  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    edited June 2005
    Just to add my two cents; definately NOT Tae Kwon Do.

    *edit* I made a big-assed post where I did a 360 and decided it IS Tae-Kwon-Do, only to lose everything I wrote due to computer stupidness <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    To summarise though;

    It LOOKS like he's using a Tae-kwon-do back-stance. This is really a defensive stance; most of your body weight is taken on the back leg. It is NOT designed for pursuing your "attacker" like the guy did (which is why he moves like an idiot), it is designed for staying put and waiting for your attacker to make the first move. He would have been far better off in the more traditional, less showy-offy fighting stance.

    The punch he used to knock the guy down didn't look (to me) like a recognisable move; discipline and technique rarely last once the fists start flying. I suspect he just hit the guy really really hard.
  • CrispyCrispy Jaded GD Join Date: 2004-08-22 Member: 30793Members, Constellation
    I reckon it looks like one of Raiden's styles from MK:DA. I played a hell of a lot of that game. The crouch and the footwork looks very similar at least, but it's quite an obscure style. I don't think he was very proficient at it at all; his blocks were poo, his dodging wasn't that impressive because of the other guy's complete doodoo style and when he tried to go for a punch and lifted his back leg...

    amateurs <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • GrendelGrendel All that is fear... Join Date: 2002-07-19 Member: 970Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-CMEast+Jun 25 2005, 11:18 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CMEast @ Jun 25 2005, 11:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I've been in loads <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    He should have just smacked him like that from the off instead of poncing around like that. Dumb poser, I hope the next fight he's in someone smacks him while he's in the middle of doing his little dance steps. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What Easty said.

    If you want artful moves and style, head for the Orient.

    If you want your head kicked in, visit the UK.

    <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Cold_NiTeCold_NiTe Join Date: 2003-09-15 Member: 20875Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Nil IQ+Jun 25 2005, 06:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nil IQ @ Jun 25 2005, 06:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> To summarise though;

    It LOOKS like he's using a Tae-kwon-do back-stance. This is really a defensive stance; most of your body weight is taken on the back leg. It is NOT designed for pursuing your "attacker" like the guy did (which is why he moves like an idiot), it is designed for staying put and waiting for your attacker to make the first move. He would have been far better off in the more traditional, less showy-offy fighting stance.

    The punch he used to knock the guy down didn't look (to me) like a recognisable move; discipline and technique rarely last once the fists start flying. I suspect he just hit the guy really really hard. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Woah, that's crazy, another guy in another forum said basically the same thing, though he practices Aikaido not Tae Kwon Do.
  • MelatoninMelatonin Babbler Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14551Members, Constellation
    my friend who teachs wing chun thinks the stance looks like a form of ninjitsu, though he says the stance is about all he recognises.

    he also points out that the guy rigidly sticks to his stance even when it leaves him vaunerable. He crosses his legs at one point, which would leave him open to being rushed.

    personally, I think the stance was more of a 'warning' then a useful technique.. at least at this guys level.
    though, it is funny <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Seph_KimaraSeph_Kimara Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19359Members
    <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>FIST OF THE NORTH STAR!</span></span>
  • DepotDepot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members
    The "kung-fu mastuh" simply psyched the dude out, and landed a lucky punch. <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    edited June 2005
    Ouch. Palm strike to the face = pain. If he manages to get your face, it's gonna hurt even more.

    Can't pin down which martial arts style he's using, but it definitely is real. I'm pretty sure I saw that fighting stance somewhere....
    What I do remember is most Chinese martial art styles definitely use their arms as distractions.

    TBH, the other dude should've just smacked that guy to the ground instead of letting him use his 'Kung Fu'.

    Seriously, is every oriental martial art to your average teenager Kung Fu?

    EDIT : Mmmm I remember my dad teaching me how to knock someone out by using a palm strike up towards the chin. The forces their heads INSTANTLY angle upward causing shock to the neck. Can't remember which style it was though.

    Maybe it's the same technique he used.

    EDIT : Upon closer inspection it DOES seem like a variant of the technique my dad taught me....
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Marik Steele+Jun 25 2005, 12:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Marik Steele @ Jun 25 2005, 12:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I think it's less a case of good moves from the fancy guy, and more a case of the original agressor not having a bloody clue what he's doing.

    Just look at him. The most active stance he gets into is one where he has his hands bobbing around at chest height. Then his attacks consist of overhand sloppiness and general wailing around. And it's punches at all ranges (kick range, punch range, and tighter ranges), no kicks at all.

    Not to mention he's spent the first half of the fight hyperventilating from laughter. He had no idea what he was getting himself into, and no clue how to deal with one hit to the face. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah. I don't know if KFG was real, but the guy he was fighting was a total ****. I could've kicked his **** at 12.
  • Fog_cartoonsFog_cartoons Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20658Members
    Yeah its not tae kwon do I know that for sure.

    Isn't Kung fu just an umbrella term for lots of Chinese Martial arts? It could be anything really.
  • Nil_IQNil_IQ Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15520Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Fog cartoons+Jun 25 2005, 09:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Fog cartoons @ Jun 25 2005, 09:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah its not tae kwon do I know that for sure.

    Isn't Kung fu just an umbrella term for lots of Chinese Martial arts? It could be anything really. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I still say it looks a LOT like a back-stance he's doing, although i'm sure the same stance could be found in several different styles of martial arts.

    Also Tae-Kwon-Do is Korean. Kthxbye.
  • ThansalThansal The New Scum Join Date: 2002-08-22 Member: 1215Members, Constellation
    edited June 2005
    From what I know.

    it dosn't look like anytihng real, it looks like he does KNOW some martial arts but is more just screwing with the other guy's head.

    No one who actualy is thinking of selfdefence (or kicking the crap outa some one) is gona use a formalized stance like that, they are instead going to be in sometihng that looks alot like a boxer's stance. The foot work is just silly (doesn't look like any Tae-Kwon-Do footwork I know, but I have only been studying for a month now <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->)

    The one wierd thing is that he isn't weaing shoes in the second part of the video, and that is sort of a Korean concept (it is concidered rude to hit some one with your shoes).


    Oh, and yes, kung fu is sorta an over arcing term for most chinese martial arts (more like there are types of kung fu).


    Oh, and his punching is sloppy as hell.
  • Blammo8Blammo8 Join Date: 2005-02-06 Member: 40141Members
    The guy can't do **** martial arts. He may have been a beginner cause his weight is like 80% on his back leg at the start which is the first thing you'll learn at any martial art. Later doh he forgets all about his stand.
    It can't be Jui Jitsu, because he would've used an armlock or something, they hardly teach you how to punch at Jui Jitsu and a lock is easier.
    If you look at his punches you can see he flails, hardly any control. This is best seen when he tries a hook (bad one really) and then flails his arm right back (which is stupid and ineffective).
    Also when he tries to block, he blocks to the inside. One of the first things they'll teach you about blocking is to block away from your body because the attacker can still have some momentum. Also If you block to the inside you always have to sitestep to dodge the momentum of the punch.
    Also just before they start punching he tries something and takes all his weight to his front leg, someone with just a little knowledge in martial arts would duck a low kick the lower part of his leg. He would be floored.

    He might be a beginner who couldn't keep his head cool to remember the proper way of using his martial art. I don't think the attacker is knocked out just stunned from the punch. Good the the red shirt was winning doh, I hate bullies.
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