#farmteams

nInnIn Join Date: 2004-09-20 Member: 31826Members
Hello,

Many of you may not know me, but I am here to bridge the gap between pub players and competitive players. I have formed a channel on mIRC #farmteams for public players that are looking to become competitive.

Basically what the channel does is list current teams/people that are already established in the ns competitive community and are looking to reach out to the public players to form new clans.

If you are interested in joining a new competitive clan under the guidance of already established competitive players then please stop on by. The channel again is #farmteams.

Thanks you for your cooperation.
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  • NarfwakNarfwak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5258Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, Subnautica PT Lead, NS2 Community Developer
    edited June 2005
    Er . . .

    I know I've been out of the loop for a while, but doesn't #findnsclan do this already? Just chat up some other clanners and see what's going on and whatnot.

    By the way, you didn't mention the IRC server. I'm going to assume Gamesurge, although you really ought to specify.
  • obuhobuh Not Quite Smart at NS Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15072Members, Constellation
    Very good initiative. I wish you the best of luck.
  • titaniumtitanium Join Date: 2003-10-31 Member: 22166Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Narfwak+Jun 21 2005, 03:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Narfwak @ Jun 21 2005, 03:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Er . . .

    I know I've been out of the loop for a while, but doesn't #findnsclan do this already? Just chat up some other clanners and see what's going on and whatnot.

    By the way, you didn't mention the IRC server. I'm going to assume Gamesurge, although you really ought to specify. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    gamesurge is the network

    findnsclan is worthless because it's dead and never updated with teams who are recruiting or people who are looking for teams. it also never really worked in the first place because most people didn't use it and it wasn't advertised enough.

    farmteams started about 3 hours ago and i already have 5 people who want to join a team which i will be managing, so i'd say that's an impressive start

    if you're even remotely interested in trying real competitive play, now is your chance to see what the fuss is about

    #farmteams ok
  • EmanonEmanon Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16254Members, Constellation
    edited June 2005
    Would anyone like to start a tutorial site that shows players how to start and keep a clan together?
    Many things are just unexplained when starting a team:

    How to get sponsored or where to find a server to scrim/match on?
    How to setup the team in cal
    How to create and run a team with almost no investment.
    How to keep things organized.
    Things to look for when watch matches on HLTV.
    How to use IRC.
    How to setup a channel in IRC and assign admins.
    List of channels to idle in. (i.e. #findnsscrim, #nspickup)
    Good ways to setup practice schedules.
    How to setup scrims.
    How to setup the team in cal
    How to keep players involved.
    How to learn from mistakes.
    How to stay positive.


    There are alot more....


    This would be really helpfull as most people dont know where to start and would rather give up. I dont think a site has been created before on how to make a team, most sites are about how to play the game.

    I do have a site available if anyone would like to use it, no strings attached, totally free:
    <a href='http://www.nsgamer.com/site' target='_blank'>www.nsgamer.com/site</a>

    I would try to do this myself but I dont have the time and I'm not good with phpnuke. Some effort has already been put in.
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    edited June 2005
    <span style='color:grey'>*snip*</span>
  • DuoGodOfDeathDuoGodOfDeath Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1044Members
    edited June 2005
    <a href='http://caleague.com/?division=nso' target='_blank'>http://caleague.com/?division=nso</a>

    How to get sponsored or where to find a server to scrim/match on?
    <b>Don't need one really. #FindNSscrim for scrims. Matches are listen on the CAL page. [b]

    How to setup the team in cal
    [b]Rosters are locked right now because it is in the playoffs now. Pretty sure they open up after the finals are done.</b>

    How to create and run a team with almost no investment.
    <b>Time == Investement - Got to sign up for cal in order to make a team.</b>

    How to keep things organized.
    <b>Having a MIRC channel with Ventrilo helps a lot</b>

    Things to look for when watch matches on HLTV.
    <b>Team work, what chambers are dropped, which RT's are dropped and such</b>

    How to use IRC.
    <b>Install it - Get a name - /s irc.gamesurge.net</b>

    How to setup a channel in IRC and assign admins.
    <b>Never done that have to ask someone else</b>

    List of channels to idle in. (i.e. #findnsscrim, #nspickup)
    <b>You just listed them</b>

    Good ways to setup practice schedules.
    <b>Get dedicated members who are on a lot and setting up scrims/practices won't be hard at all</b>

    How to setup scrims.
    <b>Go into #FindNSscrim and just go 6v6 | current map | y(ours) meaning your server or theres.</b>

    How to setup the team in cal
    <b>Question 3</b>

    How to keep players involved.
    <b>They have to love the game basically and want to become better at the game, it is what kept me in</b>

    How to learn from mistakes.
    <b>Ask teams that you lost to and I'm sure they'll help you</b>

    How to stay positive.
    <b>Don't yell like Deimos does each time he dies. Anger leads to hate, hate to leads to bad things </b>

    My list probably sucks so if someone wants to make it looks prettier go ahead :/
  • joeejoee Join Date: 2005-06-18 Member: 54113Members
    edited June 2005
    fyi to people who want to learn the game, make an account at <a href='http://www.ampednews.com' target='_blank'>ampednews</a> (prehaps with a free email because their site is full of ads and probably spams your inbox) and check out <a href='http://esports.ampednews.com/?page=demos&filter=ns&q=&type=team&rpp=50' target='_blank'>dis link</a> which has most american NS demos at least, however many of the older demos will not work with this version

    for refrence the best demos skillwise would probably be exigent or terror
  • TOmekkiTOmekki Join Date: 2003-11-25 Member: 23524Members
    hey, this thing is really cool and its important to advertise it well, too.

    what isnt cool is thinking "oh lol ill go spam this on #naturalselection, get banned and then say they hate the game and want it dead".
  • DuoGodOfDeathDuoGodOfDeath Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1044Members
    Looking at the channel really quick I see 2 lines of advertisement.
  • AlbinoAlbino Join Date: 2003-08-17 Member: 19841Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-joee+Jun 21 2005, 02:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (joee @ Jun 21 2005, 02:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> fyi to people who want to learn the game, make an account at <a href='http://www.ampednews.com' target='_blank'>ampednews</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I agree
  • coriscoris Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18034Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Albino+Jun 22 2005, 01:10 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Albino @ Jun 22 2005, 01:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-joee+Jun 21 2005, 02:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (joee @ Jun 21 2005, 02:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> fyi to people who want to learn the game, make an account at <a href='http://www.ampednews.com' target='_blank'>ampednews</a> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I agree <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Stop advertising your site! :O
  • CheeseCheese Lork on the Clorf Join Date: 2003-12-15 Member: 24396Members, Constellation
    edited June 2005
    <span style='color:grey'>*snip*</span>

    For the idea itself...very nice job. Finally someone who doesnt just whine about the pub/competetive gap..he does somethign about it. Good job Mate!
  • NarfwakNarfwak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5258Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, Subnautica PT Lead, NS2 Community Developer
    On esuna's 4000th (I think) post, he started a thread with the word "post" repeated 4000 times. Nem0 thought it was funny, but had to do something about the spamminess. Esuna's postcount was rendered -4000, his title changed to Rock Bottom, and I think he was tempbanned for a week or so. Great fun. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Anyway, I wasn't aware that #findnsclan was dead. Like I said, I've been out of the competitive loop for some time now, and I don't I feel I should get back into it. I still think the channel is a bit superflous; anyone with any social skills and a good head on their shoulders would just ask a respected clanner - anyone, really - what they needed to get set up and what teams were looking for people. Channels like this are just magnets for the drama you've apparently already witnessed.
  • Router_BoxRouter_Box Join Date: 2004-09-07 Member: 31483Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    edited June 2005
    Esuna, welcome to the intarweb, where mischief and chicanery abound. Please chill.

    This is an excellant opportunity to get on a team that is actually being trained to play comp ns well. If you have a team of guys, this is an excellant opportunity to get a mentor who is a successful comp ns player to work with you for hours, for no reason other than to have another successful team to play.

    Whether you're by yourself or you have a couple friends you play with, ns is better when its organized. Say goodbye to those games where 4 people fade with no chambers and die while no second hive is built. Start playing ns how it should be played.

    Co2 was a farm team started before this season and they are playing in the omega finals this sunday. This farm clan method has proven that it creates stable successful ns teams. Get in on this before next season starts!
  • MrBenMrBen ns_eclipse, ns_veil caretaker Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8575Members
    Now if we can just get something like this in the EU <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • morphzmorphz Join Date: 2003-04-19 Member: 15640Members, Constellation
    Maybe then we might have other clans to play!?
  • Router_BoxRouter_Box Join Date: 2004-09-07 Member: 31483Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Well, if knife and <3 are tired of scrim ads claiming "no knife no <3" then the answer seems a little obvious.

    The reason they don't want to play you is because you're just too good for them. So teach, them, help them, make them better. In a short while you'll have other teams who can bring the fight to you. Unless you're afraid of eventually losing.

    If you scrim a clan and you trounce them, then split the teams into Half knife, half nubs. Scrim with 3 knife players on both sides once and a while. Then it doesn't matter about which side wins, because its now about improving game play.

    Somebody has to take the initiative to do something like #farmteams. Nin has and thats why there are 4 teams picking up new players very quickly. This is awesome.
  • ColeCole Join Date: 2002-11-13 Member: 8392Members
    edited June 2005
    This could be very successful if the very people who are attempting to found it would set an example. Sure for the first week or so everyone is going to be buddy buddy, but how long until most of the people who have been in clans for a while return to their normal state of gimpousity.

    I forsee pointless bannings, general downtalking to newbies interested who ask questions that may be less than intelligent, clanners spewing ego all over, and scrims in which established clans wipe the floor with newbies, and proceed to rub it in their face by dragging out endgame etc etc.

    I've seen this before, I'de like to see it work, but you can't change human nature. Or NS-Clanner nature for that matter. In the mean time I'll be supporting #farmteams and so should you.
  • nInnIn Join Date: 2004-09-20 Member: 31826Members
    actually 6 teams recruiting right now. if this works we will see a huge increase in omega teams this season.

    I really hope people can put their differences aside and come together and help the community.

    omg i just sounded like john lennon.

    also, slot2 scrimmed crayon last night and they were really cool towards them. if crayon can be nice, all of you can!
  • tankefugltankefugl One Script To Rule Them All... Trondheim, Norway Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8641Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    I took the liberty of removing many non-relevant posts. I support the initiative, and I don't like derailings.
  • tankefugltankefugl One Script To Rule Them All... Trondheim, Norway Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8641Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    <!--QuoteBegin-MrBen+Jun 22 2005, 04:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrBen @ Jun 22 2005, 04:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Now if we can just get something like this in the EU <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Extend it? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Garet_JaxGaret_Jax Join Date: 2003-02-23 Member: 13870Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Router Box+Jun 22 2005, 04:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Router Box @ Jun 22 2005, 04:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well, if knife and <3 are tired of scrim ads claiming "no knife no <3" then the answer seems a little obvious.

    The reason they don't want to play you is because you're just too good for them. So teach, them, help them, make them better. In a short while you'll have other teams who can bring the fight to you. Unless you're afraid of eventually losing. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It shouldn't be knife's responsibility to start something like this up- I think the problem isn't building skill up (I feel having played NS for almost 3 years, and at the age of 20, my game has peaked and won't get any better); it's getting new clans together, and more importantly, getting them matches against those in the same skill bracket.

    The ENSL was a step in the right direction, but it's fizzled out- I don't know why (yes, many clans went inactive, but -why- did they go inactive? NS still has balance problems, but its the best its every been).
  • TaaketaTaaketa Join Date: 2004-02-10 Member: 26357Members
    edited June 2005
    I've given up on the euro clan scene for NS, I've been in 3 clans. First one collapsed, second one I joined particapated in a league but a bunch of our "good" players had removed sprites, changed their models or just had customised NS so that CD nor consitancy didn't like it. Or they still played on systems from 1998 to play NS and so their 30Fps was now 20 because of CD and having to record a demo or something stupid like that, 3rd clan I joined didn't play other clans cos they weren't actually a I quote "a clan so to speak just a bunch of gamers who were a tag" [to look cool].

    Plus the fact that A LOT of euro clans and I mean A LOT in NS are so unprofessional when it comes to any sort of euro league setup. Either by a) Not reading the league rules b) Being uncooperative to admins who are trying to assit them with rules etc [edit: c) by just disappearing and never appearing again at the league.]

    Anyway my play has gone down hill long ago with being so busy with my job and everything I just don't have the time to spend on NS anymore to keep my skill up <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • comradecomrade Join Date: 2003-11-30 Member: 23774Members
    haha, so true about the leagues thing

    Also another thing to note about european players is that the playerbase is split by language. Teams are usually put together based on common languages and if you look at most of clans with players spread over the whole of Europe they will speak English and probably won't have more than one, if any, members from countries which don't learn English very well (Finnland, Germany, France, Spain, Portugal are some of the main ones I have noticed). Most of the players will be from the UK, Scandinavia and the Netherlands in the international teams.


    Anyway, #farmteams seems pretty cool, it would be good if something like that happened but it does seem much less likely to work out in Europe.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    edited June 2005
    <!--QuoteBegin-nIn+Jun 22 2005, 12:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (nIn @ Jun 22 2005, 12:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> actually 6 teams recruiting right now.  if this works we will see a huge increase in omega teams this season.

    I really hope people can put their differences aside and come together and help the community.

    omg i just sounded like john lennon.

    also, slot2 scrimmed crayon last night and they were really cool towards them.  if crayon can be nice, all of you can! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yeah, it was a really fun match, dante and I died like idiot newbs as fade though, lol. Worst fading Ive ever seen :X



    I almost felt bad about killing vapox's fade poor guy was stuck in alpha with no escape and no hive up :X
  • Router_BoxRouter_Box Join Date: 2004-09-07 Member: 31483Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    Sounds like we need to export a Hsu to europe. Do we have any extra Hsu's?
  • TalTal Join Date: 2005-02-23 Member: 42223Members
    just make your own channel on quakenet GOD
  • titaniumtitanium Join Date: 2003-10-31 Member: 22166Members
    for any commanders seeking a clan, #evilns needs you. pm titanium on irc.
  • comradecomrade Join Date: 2003-11-30 Member: 23774Members
    Knife have decided to start a European farm team:

    <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=95093' target='_blank'>http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index....showtopic=95093</a>
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    yeah make one on quakenet :sS:S:S:S:S:SS:ss;s;ss;;s;ss;;s;s!12!@!@12!21@1@2!2!2112121@1@11 .... tbh1
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