The Ns Bot Alternative

Misfire · March 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SroWolfman @ Mar 28 2005, 04:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> where you get bots for NS i didnt think bots would work with NS 3.0  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Whichbot test build for ns 3 final <a href='http://whichbot.com/dev/whichbot-v0_94g.zip' target='_blank'>http://whichbot.com/dev/whichbot-v0_94g.zip</a>
rcbot 1.4 beta <a href='http://filebase.bots-united.com/index.php?action=file&id=205' target='_blank'>http://filebase.bots-united.com/index.php?action=file&id=205</a>

jago6 · March 2005

WhichBot for 3 final, the skulks are evil. Evil I'm telling you.

ModChaosControl · April 2005

Hivemind 4.0 has been released! Get it at <a href='http://hivemind.game-mod.net/' target='_blank'>http://hivemind.game-mod.net/</a>

Changes in this version include:
[v4.0]
Added support for Natural Selection v3.0 Final.
Changed loading protocol slightly.
Moved waypoints and experience files into addons\hivemind\waypoints
Added new waypoint identifier - DLL will refuse to load old waypoints
Added support for the following NS v3.0 Full maps-
co_dust (custom map)
co_pulse
co_faceoff
co_sava
ns_eclipse
ns_veil
ns_tanith
ns_bast
You can no longer add a bot on a map without waypoints

Make sure to check out our new website design as well!

Happy botting,
-[MoD]Cha0s C0ntr0L
<a href='http://hivemind.game-mod.net/' target='_blank'>http://hivemind.game-mod.net/</a>

Shadowcat · April 2005

ns_metal waypoints would be nice. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />

ModChaosControl · April 2005

ns_metal is one of the most incompatible-with-hivemind maps >_<

colghostalpha · April 2005

It still doesnt work! What am i doing wrong <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /> .
whichbot still doesnt work, Oke, i have NOTHING installed for NS, absolutely nothing.
I just want to build a server with bots, so what did i do?
I put the files in the thing you told me to put in, addons...
i make my own LAN server, i open my chatscreen, allchat, and i type, wb add.
And it doesnt work!!!
What is the matter?
Thanks again...

Scikar · April 2005

Try typing meta in the console to see if you have metamod running properly. If nothing comes up, check that your liblist.gam points to \addons\metamod\dlls\metamod.dll (from memory, check that path). If meta works, try meta list and see if the whichbot plugin is loaded. If it's not loaded, you need to edit \addons\metamod\plugins.ini and check it has the line:

win32 \addons\whichbot\dlls\whichbot.dll (assuming it's a windows server).

If meta list shows the whichbot plugin but says there's an error, make absolutely sure you have the latest versions of both metamod and whichbot.

Hope that helps.

ModChaosControl · April 2005

There isnt an "official" whichbot release for 3.0 Final.
Theres a version on the forums, but I doubt you will have it.

colghostalpha · April 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Scikar @ Apr 7 2005, 05:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Try typing meta in the console to see if you have metamod running properly. If nothing comes up, check that your liblist.gam points to \addons\metamod\dlls\metamod.dll (from memory, check that path). If meta works, try meta list and see if the whichbot plugin is loaded. If it's not loaded, you need to edit \addons\metamod\plugins.ini and check it has the line:

win32 \addons\whichbot\dlls\whichbot.dll (assuming it's a windows server).

If meta list shows the whichbot plugin but says there's an error, make absolutely sure you have the latest versions of both metamod and whichbot.

Hope that helps.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Metamod? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' />
I dont have that?
Do i have to download it?

ModChaosControl · April 2005

I think it comes with metamod, but I'm not sure. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' />

ModChaosControl · April 2005

Hivemind 4.1 is out. Get it at <a href='http://hivemind.game-mod.net/' target='_blank'>http://hivemind.game-mod.net/</a>
It resolves a number of issues in v4.0

Changes:
[v4.1]
Fixed bugs where Lerks and Onoses wouldnt attack properly.
Added support for ns_lost
Fixed bug where gorges tried to "heal" enemy structures.
Added support for co_core
Added new warning message that should resolve people complaining that nothing happens when they type hive_add (they're trying to add bots on a non-supported map!)

ASTROMAN · April 2005

So, would RCBot be good for comm practice? or which one would be the best for that?

ModChaosControl · April 2005

RCbot is the only marine-compatible NSBot, so yes. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' />

wingwing · May 2005

which version of metamod can work rcbot1.40 beta??
give me the dl link PLZ><

Cheeseh · May 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (wingwing @ May 29 2005, 01:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> which version of metamod can work rcbot1.40 beta??
give me the dl link PLZ><  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
any version that works with the NS version that you run!

M1G · May 2005

Cheeseh, do marine bots follow orders at all? I place structures right away and waypoint them to it, but they run to the hive and try to kill it <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

Cheeseh · May 2005

yes <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /> they do, if you have to correct version of the bot that works with the version of NS that you are running that is.

M1G · June 2005

That was probably why, I have the latest ones now.

RCBot is awesome by the way, keep up the good work! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />

tomes · June 2005

There is new version ( 1.0) of Whichbot -> <a href='http://www.whichbot.com/' target='_blank'>http://www.whichbot.com/</a>

Shadow_Spork · June 2005

EDIT

Sorry, nothing to see here.

eXtortion · June 2005

RCBot have problems with walking =\
Is it because of waypoints? Is there a place to download "better" waypoints than the originals?
If not then becausae of what? and how to fix it?
problems are mainly at ladder and such. but I also saw a really wierd problem at ns_veil double, they refuse to go inside O_o

Depot · June 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (tomes @ Jun 7 2005, 06:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>There is new version ( 1.0) of Whichbot -> <a href='http://www.whichbot.com/' target='_blank'>http://www.whichbot.com/</a>

</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Thanks for posting the update! <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' />

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eXtortion Jun 25 2005 @ 05:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
RCBot have problems with walking =\
Is it because of waypoints? Is there a place to download "better" waypoints than the originals?
If not then becausae of what? and how to fix it?
problems are mainly at ladder and such. but I also saw a really wierd problem at ns_veil double, they refuse to go inside O_o</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I suggest you post on <a href='http://rcbot.bots-united.com/forums/index.php' target='_blank'>The RCBot Forums.</a>

F4ded · June 2005

Anyone remember what I change to make it where if a team gets 3-4 more players then the other team they don't auto win?
Everytime the game starts and the alien team has 10-16 players and marines only have 1 (me <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /> ) it says the aliens win.

Depot · June 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (F4ded @ Jun 28 2005, 11:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Anyone remember what I change to make it where if a team gets 3-4 more players then the other team they don't auto win?
Everytime the game starts and the alien team has 10-16 players and marines only have 1 (me <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /> ) it says the aliens win.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
mp_limitteams 1 in your server.cfg.

F4ded · June 2005

Bah I thought I changed that, thanks!

Depot · June 2005

Glad to have been of assistance sire. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' />

LigerXT5 · July 2005

hive mind and wb is pretty well made as of today, but i have probs with todays rcbot, on certain maps, ( when i host a lan for myself ) it tryies to load atleast 4 bots and it some times freezes my pc. i dont quite under stand why. even when i have hivemind and wb off rcbot still does the same thing.

ive tried finding where the config of rc to set it to only load bots when told to but i cant find it.

edit:
thanks to cheeseh, the prob was that rcbot was in my half-life folder, so the config for how many bots each map was there instead of the rcbot folder in ns <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

Cheeseh · July 2005

there are a few bugs here and there still with the bots map specific config I think which I need to sort out.

Make sure you got the latest, yes I mean latest! i.e. download the latest beta again to make sure. I've fixed bugs that could potentially cause freezing

ModChaosControl · July 2005

The Hivemind AI website has changed, because my host had lost our old domain.

<a href='http://hivemind.gamemod.net/' target='_blank'>http://hivemind.gamemod.net/</a> is the new site.

DarthFaker · July 2005

Hi,
just downloaded WichBot and i want to "install" it, but i cant find the line which says: "dlls\ns.dll" in the liblist and i have to change it to
"gamedll "addons\metamod\dlls\metamod.dll"
gamedll_linux "addons/metamod/dlls/metamod_i386.so""

this is my liblist:

////////////////////////////
// Natural Selection //
// by Charlie Cleveland //
////////////////////////////
game "Natural Selection"
url_info "www.natural-selection.org"
url_dl "http://www.natural-selection.org/"
version "v3.0"
size "165000000"
svonly "0"
secure "0"
cldll "cl_dlls\client.dll"
hlversion "1110"
// How to allow training but disable "New game"?
type "multiplayer_only"
// Don't show models in browser
nomodels "1"
nohimodel "1"
// Only show NS-compliant maps
mpentity "info_mapinfo"
// Using HPB_bot support for now
gamedll "..\rcbot\dlls\rcbot.dll"

gamedll_linux "dlls/ns_i386.so"
// Training map
//trainmap "ns_training"

Can any1 help me?

-Edit-
KK, figured it out how ^^

But i have to say: WichBot is flipping hard. :\
*thumbs up for the programmer*

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