3.03 Has Changed The World.

Lofung · April 2005

<div class="IPBDescription">a little bit at lease.</div> It starts when a pro, a regular or forumist who read this post or discover it themselves. and spread it like virus

teh new virus is named:
<span style='color:red'>2 bites a PARAA</span>

it usually starts with the people who para. skulk bite bite and die, the man comes in and *pak*. skulk bite bite, the man again *pak*. n00bs and noobs duplicates and start para-ing. eventually, para is no longer a indicator of regulars and they finally learn para.

well it didnt break the A1 custom<span style='color:purple'>(yeah fade takes 3 swipes to kill a a1 marine and 2 for a0. and bullets dun get better shooting at skulks when w1.)</span> but it improved the world a bit.

Nemesis_Zero · April 2005

NS v3.0.3 has been out for - what? 36 hours? - now.
Could you wait with your verdicts until the paint has dried? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' />

Router_Box · April 2005

People will always credit their wins to their own skill and credit thier losses to a broken game. For the next little bit while people lose alien games they will blame the new patch, even if objectively it didn't have an impact on events like fades dying, that truely created the actual outcome of the game.

TheJim · April 2005

Going by 1 day of playing this version i love it but take note this is only 1 day so i will give a proper opinion in 1 month or so <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' />

puzl · April 2005

Very true Router Box, the other phenomenom we have to deal with at this time is the imaginary changelogs. Whenever we release a new patch, people talk about how change X is good or bad when there was no such change.

I've seen people comment on
o The new fade blink
o The increased rof of acid rocket
o The build time for pgs ( it being percieved as both faster and slower on different occasions ).

Router_Box · April 2005

My favorite one that i saw recently was somebody complaining about the armor boost "making jetpackers even harder to kill!".

Just gotta shake your head some times.

Golden · April 2005

The only thing I don't like about the +5 base armor is that a0 marines are not one-shotted by a focus skulk anymore. It takes a focus bite + parasite to kill them. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' />

Nemesis_Zero · April 2005

Yup. That's pretty much the main reason for the change <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' />

PRTe · April 2005

and a good one too. a lot of people seem to have a problem with it, just have to wait and get used to it

MistenTH · April 2005

No excuses, get a lerk and you can get back to screwing marines the old fashioned way with little effort.

In classic, gorges and OCs will chip away that wee bit of armour effortlessly either.

Gree · April 2005

You do realize what this means, don't you? When knife damage was increased to 30 we saw a great deal of knife kills. Now that it takes one parasite and a focus bite we will likely see an increase in para kills and parasited marines.

monopolowa · April 2005

besides, you can switch to para and fire faster than you could get off two non-focus bites. Just have para on quickswitch and use it right before or right after your focus bite...

There are plenty of other ways for marines to take just a little bit of damage...things like spores, a single OC hit, healspray, or gorge spit...heck, even leap+focus bite will usually still work, and if it doesnt, you're really close to a leapkill (ooo gotta go try that <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /> )

Cxwf · April 2005

Yes...I know that the "paint hasn't dried" as Nem put it, but so far I'm loving this change in every way. Para is used more, A0 marines are a little tougher, A3 marines can survive 2 focus hits if they get medpacks...all good. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' />

DaJMasta · April 2005

ive played like 3 games, but i still think it rulez.

Slower alien startgame pushes everything back, and lets marines build up some res and tech, making early fades and skulk rambos (they're kinda rambos) less effective.

aeroripper · April 2005

Yea i can't tell you how many times i've been parasited more frequently now due to this patch

DarkFrost · April 2005

Wait.. when was knife ever not 30 dmg?!

Black_Hawk_VS · April 2005

$5 says that everyone who is now complaining that +5 armor is making marines overpowered are the same people who complained that aliens were overpowered in the last version

You can satisfy some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time, but you cant satisfy a noob

Khaim · April 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gree @ Apr 28 2005, 10:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> You do realize what this means, don't you? When knife damage was increased to 30 we saw a great deal of knife kills. Now that it takes one parasite and a focus bite we will likely see an increase in para kills and parasited marines.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Psst...knife was always 30 damage.

NASTYBUTLER · April 2005

I don't like the new armor upgrade. I really enjoyed early focus ownage. Clearing out a whole team of rines myself with one bite a piece.......sad..... <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' />

Swiftspear · April 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Golden @ Apr 28 2005, 09:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> The only thing I don't like about the +5 base armor is that a0 marines are not one-shotted by a focus skulk anymore. It takes a focus bite + parasite to kill them. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' />  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
This is an interesting issue, and I can't decide where I stand on it yet. On one hand this is a MAJOR nerf to early sensory, since focus skulks are countered right away, with no worries of getting armor 1. On the other hand, late focus is still fine, it is just somewhat counter intuitive to use focus late (hence why the LM build order of choice is still MDS rather then MSD) but it is acctually quite effective when people suck it up and try.

I like that it encourages more cloak and SoF skulks rather then focus skulks... but focus skulks were an important part of the game, expecially in Co mode.

Church · April 2005

these changes will definitely help. I really don't like focus as an upgrade, and with the effective "nerf" on early focus, maybe skulks will stop using it.

N_Recoup · April 2005

I do recall the alien-based players telling the marine ones "Adapt or die."

Well:

"Adapt or die."

AJ_fifty_three · April 2005

I personally like the fact that this makes the Fade more than simply a large skulk. The extra 5 damage actually means something now, which I see as a boon, and makes it (going fade) more worth the 50 res for your average pubber.

Ballisto · April 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gree @ Apr 28 2005, 10:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> You do realize what this means, don't you? When knife damage was increased to 30 we saw a great deal of knife kills. Now that it takes one parasite and a focus bite we will likely see an increase in para kills and parasited marines.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Beat me to it <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /> It encourages people to parasite, which is a VERY GOOD THING.

Alkiller · April 2005

Parasiting isn't hard, this encourages people to do so.

... That's a good thing...

TOmekki · April 2005

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Black Hawk VS @ Apr 28 2005, 02:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> $5 says that everyone who is now complaining that +5 armor is making marines overpowered are the same people who complained that aliens were overpowered in the last version

 </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
wrong. the people who thought 3.0F was fine and more balanced than b5 are the ones most likely to complain now.

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
You can satisfy some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time, but you cant satisfy a noob</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

a noob is satisfied when one side of the game is so overpowered its ridiculously easy to win with them. then they can just stack that team.

Ollj · April 2005

there are enough ways to lose that 5 armour:
made a spraylogo sized comic of it:

3.03 Has Changed The World.

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