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• GiGaBiTe Join Date: 2003-10-07 Member: 21489Members

  March 2005

  90% cpu usage on a 16 man server isnt normal. and i doubt that its a metamod or amxx plugin causing the problem. for this issue, i would look straight at linux. kernels, distros, setup of the linux server.
  
  if you read around, many people have the same problems that you do. i would suggest go bug valve or recompile the kernel or try a different linux distrobution. i prefer fedora because it works stock, but debian, mandrake or suse might work just as well.

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• cracker_jackmac Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6891Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow

  March 2005

  take a few steps.
  
  Disable Metamod and run a few rounds.
  If CPU utilization is still high, then you need a new kernel or hardware.
  If not, then disable all the MM plugins and enable one by one.
  
  For best testing, use the same map over and over. because certain maps require more polys than others which play a large effect on CPU (since it is all CPU rendered).
  
  If it turns out that Metamod stuff isn't your problem, there are more than enough threads on linux kernels and distros in these forums to help you out <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

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• Depot The ModFather Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7956Members

  March 2005 edited March 2005

  Definitely ditch the Metamod v1.17.4p20 and replace it with v1.17.4 for a start (it's recommended the "p" version only be used with the patched AMX Mod X v1.01).
  
  I'd ditch the nightly build v0.20 for v1.00 too.

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• Jiriki retired ns1 player Join Date: 2003-01-04 Member: 11780Members, NS1 Playtester, Squad Five Silver

  March 2005 edited March 2005

  <!--QuoteBegin-Depot+Mar 21 2005, 06:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Depot @ Mar 21 2005, 06:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Definitely ditch the Metamod v1.17.4p20 and replace it with v1.17.4 for a start (it's recommended the "p" version only be used with the patched AMX Mod X v1.01).
  
  I'd ditch the nightly build v0.20 for v1.00 too. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  Yeah, I'll try but I hope it's not AMX. I like the nightly-version very much.
  
  I doubt it's a hardware problem, because the server is rented and I got another server with similar configs and some lag too.
  
  Thanks for your answers. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  
  EDIT: Ehm, I 0.2 for v1.00? You mean the nightly build of 1.00?
  EDIT2: So I'm installing AMXX 1.01, should I use the patched MM?
  EDIT3: MM 1.17.4 + AMX 1.01 gives pings 30-60, cpu is 70-80%. Pingboost is at lvl 3. but fps is at ~50 - weird. Maybe it has something to do with the HZ setting? I have to email admins in order to change that (-> need working value).

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• Boris Join Date: 2002-12-30 Member: 11636Members

  March 2005 edited March 2005

  My server has no problem with:
  1) Metamod v1.17.4p20 2005/03/05
  by Will Day
  <a href='http://www.metamod.org/' target='_blank'>http://www.metamod.org/</a>
  Patch: Metamod-P (mm-p) v20
  by Jussi Kivilinna
  <a href='http://koti.mbnet.fi/axh/' target='_blank'>http://koti.mbnet.fi/axh/</a>
  compiled: Mar 5 2005, 14:47:15 EET (optimized)
  
  
  2) AMX Mod X 1.00
  Authors: Felix "SniperBeamer" Geyer, David "BAILOPAN" Anderson, Pavol "PM OnoTo" Marko, Jonny "Got His Gun" Bergstrom, and Lukasz "SidLuke" Wlasinski. (http://www.amxmodx.org)
  Compiled: Nov 15 2004, 11:17:55
  Core mode: JIT
  
  
  3) updated NS module
  
  
  I'm running Windows 2003 Server
  16 players max (with hidden 17th slot for adminreservation plugin)
  
  I still haven't bothered to try to get AMXX 1.01 to work, last time I did stuff it would just load and then crash without error. I never had the 1.17.4 metamod though...that might help. I have no reason to switch to 1.01 though, I edited all errors I noticed in the admin sma's so everything seems dandy!

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• Jiriki retired ns1 player Join Date: 2003-01-04 Member: 11780Members, NS1 Playtester, Squad Five Silver

  March 2005 edited March 2005

  <!--QuoteBegin-Boris+Mar 22 2005, 11:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Boris @ Mar 22 2005, 11:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'm running Windows 2003 Server
  16 players max (with hidden 17th slot for adminreservation plugin)
  
  I still haven't bothered to try to get AMXX 1.01 to work, last time I did stuff it would just load and then crash without error.  I never had the 1.17.4 metamod though...that might help.  I have no reason to switch to 1.01 though, I edited all errors I noticed in the admin sma's so everything seems dandy! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  You're running a windows server, that's a different story. Though, I've similar configuration as you (16 slots + 1 hidden). AMXX 0.2-nightly, + MM-p.
  
  Now I have changed to AMXX 1.01 and to MM 1.17.4.
  
  I had a simple problem at start, where it couldn't save log files (because my AMXX was in addons/amxmodx-1.01, not in addons/amxmodx). So I changed directroy paths (the alternative is to edit core.ini). If it doesn't work, you can paste any errors here.
  
  Anyways, to my problem. With only Awards + CD runnig I get only marginally lower pings. Soon I gotta try without MM at all.
  
  I have to test it, but it's our scene's prime server, so you can't play with it all the time.
  I have my second server (with similar hardware), but it rarely crowded (because it won't show up with a country flag in the serverlist).
  
  If it goes to my kernel, I'm more than thankful to get any tips. I've heard I should change it to 100, 512 or 1000. Currently it is 1000. I've also heard I should use ck-sources, with no pre-emptible kernel and such. I got such configuration but it's on the second server (which is very hard to get crowded). The other server's kernel won't be changed just like that (because it has to done email).
  
  Note: specs are at top

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• Jiriki retired ns1 player Join Date: 2003-01-04 Member: 11780Members, NS1 Playtester, Squad Five Silver

  April 2005

  Bump. Anyone? Help really appreciated.

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• Jiriki retired ns1 player Join Date: 2003-01-04 Member: 11780Members, NS1 Playtester, Squad Five Silver

  May 2005

  This is strange. I reinstalled NS, changed only a few settings in server.cfg and it still lags. Hlds-tool verified the files are up to date. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

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• Marine_Eater Join Date: 2003-09-07 Member: 20636Members

  June 2005 edited June 2005

  Alreet, would you mind telling us what CPU + MEM you have anyway?
  
  Also, what sys_ticrate are you using, which Linux Distro. + Kernel are you using?
  
  Have you tried Vadakill's kernel tutorial, it DOES work! I went from about 80% usage with sys_ticrate 100 to 18% usage with sys_ticrate 1000 on a ns_siege007 map!
  
  Edit Again:
  That's with -pingboost 3 bye the way..
  
  Server Specs:
  
  Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 2.80GHz
  512MB RAM.

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• Zavaro Tucson, Arizona Join Date: 2005-02-14 Member: 41174Members, Super Administrators, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver, NS2 Map Tester, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Silver, Subnautica Playtester, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts

  June 2005 edited June 2005

  Never mind.

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• MarineEater Join Date: 2004-04-06 Member: 27760Members, Constellation

  June 2005

  That should have been 'by the way' not 'bye the way'?
  
  Wheres the edit button gone?

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• Jiriki retired ns1 player Join Date: 2003-01-04 Member: 11780Members, NS1 Playtester, Squad Five Silver

  June 2005 edited June 2005

  So AMX, Metamod etc. have little if nothing to do with the lag. Server is rented and the CPU is following.
  <!--c1--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->
  processor       : 0
  vendor_id       : AuthenticAMD
  cpu family      : 6
  model           : 8
  model name      : AMD Athlon(TM) XP2400+
  stepping        : 1
  cpu MHz         : 2014.851
  cache size      : 256 KB
  fdiv_bug        : no
  hlt_bug         : no
  f00f_bug        : no
  coma_bug        : no
  fpu             : yes
  fpu_exception   : yes
  cpuid level     : 1
  wp              : yes
  flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow
  bogomips        : 3973.12
  <!--c2--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->
  
  In case you didn't notice, memory-info is here.
  <!--c1--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
  Mem:           504        469         34          0          0        326
  -/+ buffers/cache:        143        361
  Swap:            0          0          0<!--c2--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->
  It means 504 Megs of memory (143M used and 361M free). This was taken when the server had maximum of 16 players.
  
  sys_ticrate is 100. Kernel HZ-value is 1000.
  Pingboost has negative effect on pings.
  Distro is Gentoo 2003-4.x, not sure which. Where can I check that? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  
  I haven't root access to server so if I have to recompile kernel, I need values which work. Thanks. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

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• MarineEater Join Date: 2004-04-06 Member: 27760Members, Constellation

  June 2005

  Do you know if there are any more servers running on that computer?
  NS takes up a lot of resources and it doesn't help if there are more servers running on the same computer.

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• Jiriki retired ns1 player Join Date: 2003-01-04 Member: 11780Members, NS1 Playtester, Squad Five Silver

  June 2005

  Currently ventrilo (basically 0 users) and hltv (0 users too). If you look at the stats, resource usage is pretty low. Hltv is sleeping so it doesnt really matter. There's similar server (same provider) with ventrilo (30-80 users) but it doesn't lag.
  
  <!--c1--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->
  root         1  0.0  0.0  1344  484 ?        S     2004   0:40 init [3]
  root         2  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SWN   2004   0:00 [ksoftirqd/0]
  root         3  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW<   2004   0:00 [events/0]
  root         4  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW<   2004   0:00  \_ [khelper]
  root         5  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW<   2004   0:00  \_ [kacpid]
  root         6  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW<   2004   0:00  \_ [kblockd/0]
  root         7  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW    2004   0:15  \_ [pdflush]
  root         8  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW    2004   0:20  \_ [pdflush]
  root        10  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW<   2004   0:00  \_ [aio/0]
  root         9  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW    2004   0:17 [kswapd0]
  root        11  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW    2004   0:00 [kseriod]
  root        12  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW    2004  12:32 [rpciod]
  root       119  0.0  0.5  5664 2928 ?        S     2004   0:02 /sbin/devfsd /dev
  root       877  0.0  0.1  1664  764 ?        S     2004   0:31 /usr/sbin/syslog-ng
  bin        987  0.0  0.5  5652 2696 ?        S     2004   0:00 /sbin/portmap
  root       998  0.0  0.0     0    0 ?        SW    2004   0:00 [lockd]
  root      1044  0.0  0.1  1608  804 ?        S     2004   0:00 /sbin/rpc.statd
  ntp       1141  0.0  1.2  6648 6648 ?        SL    2004   2:06 /usr/bin/ntpd -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -u ntp:ntp
  root      1186  0.0  0.5  5936 2884 ?        S     2004   0:19 /usr/sbin/sshd
  root     25685  0.0  0.6  8676 3216 ?        S    13:07   0:00  \_ sshd: as812 [priv]
  as812    25688  0.0  0.6  8956 3380 ?        S    13:08   0:00      \_ sshd: as812@pts/3
  as812    25689  0.0  0.6  6520 3328 pts/3    S    13:08   0:00          \_ -bash
  as812    25921  0.0  0.5  6436 2816 pts/3    R    14:41   0:00              \_ ps auxf
  root      1226  0.0  0.5  5640 2720 ?        S     2004   0:23 /usr/sbin/cron
  as812     5370  0.0  0.1  1968  900 ?        S    Mar16   0:00 /bin/sh ./run_ventrilo
  as812     5371  0.0  0.2  3216 1284 ?        S    Mar16   0:39  \_ ./ventrilo_srv
  as812    25346  0.0  0.1  1968  904 ?        S    Jun02   0:00 /bin/sh ./run_hltv
  as812    25347  8.5  6.6 36216 34264 ?       S    Jun02 346:36  \_ ./hltv +exec ns/ns-hltv.cfg
  as812    25853  0.0  0.1  2232 1024 ?        S    Jun02   0:00 /bin/sh ./hlds_run -game ns
  as812    25630 71.8 15.1 85616 78544 ?       S    12:29  90:30  \_ ./hlds_amd -game ns
  <!--c2--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->

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• MarineEater Join Date: 2004-04-06 Member: 27760Members, Constellation

  June 2005

  71.8% is a very large CPU usage..

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