Take Those Plugins Off Plz
Armageddon
Join Date: 2005-01-07 Member: 33055Members
Join Date: 2005-01-07 Member: 33055Members
<div class="IPBDescription">on combat servers</div> My god.
Yesterday I went on wnf combat server and killed lots of skulks at the beginning of a combat game on co_ulysesses. Instead of sticking with a jp/hmg build, I decided to try out the plugin upgrades to see how far I would be able to go. Before I knew it, I had lvl 5 cybernetics and was bunny hopping as a marine and reached the hive several times just as the aliens were spawning and spawned them in for as long as i could before I ran out of ammo. I went 55-12 that game because of these dumb upgrades that gave me advantages that were not meant to be in the game in the first place.
Please remove them. I'm tired of seeing turbo marines and 2000 hp onos.
Yesterday I went on wnf combat server and killed lots of skulks at the beginning of a combat game on co_ulysesses. Instead of sticking with a jp/hmg build, I decided to try out the plugin upgrades to see how far I would be able to go. Before I knew it, I had lvl 5 cybernetics and was bunny hopping as a marine and reached the hive several times just as the aliens were spawning and spawned them in for as long as i could before I ran out of ammo. I went 55-12 that game because of these dumb upgrades that gave me advantages that were not meant to be in the game in the first place.
Please remove them. I'm tired of seeing turbo marines and 2000 hp onos.
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When I tried the /menu on a listenserver against 5 bots, I was an HA, outrunning skulks, and my self-weld let me literally sit in the hive and knife them as they were biting me. 10 bites per second and I never died....
extralevels2 pretty well balances the upgrades between the 2 teams.
Worth noting: Cybernetics is so beneficial I adjusted it's cost to 2 points, which helped. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Agreed - my server STAYS full.
You obviously have limited your experience with extralevels2 to a select few upgrades. Give me an onos with level 5 thickened skin, bloodlust, and hunger and I will PWN any 2 marines on the map.
I encourage players who first try this plugin to try ALL the various upgrades, over and over, even the ones you think suck. Increase the cost of Cybernetics to 2 points, and you won't see so many bunnyhoppin rines out there.
This plugin is completely customizeable according to what the server op wants. if you think it's unbalanced even after trying all the various upgrades numerous times, talk to the server op - maybe he'll listen. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
...and did a <b>FINE</b> job of it. Thank you sir! <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
But I agree, the marines are overpowered. The aliens need something like what is described above, or increased regen rates.
Yesterday I went on wnf combat server and killed lots of skulks at the beginning of a combat game on co_ulysesses. Instead of sticking with a jp/hmg build, I decided to try out the plugin upgrades to see how far I would be able to go. Before I knew it, I had lvl 5 cybernetics and was bunny hopping as a marine and reached the hive several times just as the aliens were spawning and spawned them in for as long as i could before I ran out of ammo. I went 55-12 that game because of these dumb upgrades that gave me advantages that were not meant to be in the game in the first place.
Please remove them. I'm tired of seeing turbo marines and 2000 hp onos. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's hard enough to find servers with extra upgrades and plug-ins, don't discourage people from putting them on their server. Some people actually enjoy them, myself included. If you were able to do so well you should probably look into playing against higher caliber players instead of complaining about upgrades.
Yeah, because there aren't half a dozen servers with extra levels and late join listed in their name.
The one plugin that pisses me off the most is the plugin that puts lerk spikes back in IN THE FIRST WEAPON SLOT. This means that I can't quickswitch from umbra to bite to take down a jetpacker if I'm defending the hive (among other times). If you've got to have it in, put it in the fourth weapon slot, because you rarely have to switch to primal scream quickly.
u never get your skills better at all.
some may have fun from it
but i dun like the taste of unbalance.
Yeah, because there aren't half a dozen servers with extra levels and late join listed in their name.
The one plugin that pisses me off the most is the plugin that puts lerk spikes back in IN THE FIRST WEAPON SLOT. This means that I can't quickswitch from umbra to bite to take down a jetpacker if I'm defending the hive (among other times). If you've got to have it in, put it in the fourth weapon slot, because you rarely have to switch to primal scream quickly.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Unfortunately there's just not enough space to place all of that in your server's name. I recommend HLSW to check the server's rules before joining. Worth noting: make CERTAIN the extralevels2 is the latest version 1.7g as earlier versions could be exploited. Last I looked (yesterday) there were 260 downloads of v1.7g for amxmodx.
The beauty of this plugin is it's totally configureable. It's highly unlikely the author of this thread could have achieved the same results on my server, because Cybernetics costs 2 points a pop.
The lerkspike plugin I use has it in the second slot with spores. I doubt it would take much work to change any of them to the slot you want.
But I agree, the marines are overpowered. The aliens need something like what is described above, or increased regen rates.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Staticfield works quite well BUT it costs 2 points a pop also.
Staticfield is an "electrical charge" so to speak that the marine upgrades to (etherealtracking required, which requires motion) which does damage to alien health when they come within range. The alien's health is reduced by the following amounts depending on your level:<ul><li>Level 1: reduces alien's health to 7/8th of normal</li><li>Level 2: reduces alien's health to 6/8th of normal</li><li>Level 3: reduces alien's health to 5/8ths of normal</li><li>Level 4: reduces alien's health to 4/8ths of normal</li><li>Level 5: reduces alein's health to 3/8ths of normal</li></ul>However, you're incorrect in assuming an alien with the same level of thickened skin can't counter this, especially with a few levels of bloodlust and hunger ... <b>HUNGER ABSOLUTELY RULES!</b> <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
but i agree to the stated imbalance, especially if some admins dont care about balancing their server, allow more than 5 lvls and set the gametime to high.
Lvl5 Static Field is the pwn and i doubt that u could counter this in any way.
Thick. skin doesnt add as much health as is lost due to static field. Moreover it disables regeneration and with its overpowered range aliens around the hive are **** up if the marine is close to the hive(room).
I've changed the plugin some weeks ago for a friend's server and i decreased its range and the thick. skin hp were not effected by static but added to the reduced base hp. That works quite well.
I hope, cheeserm will fix the bug soon, that any player spectated by yourself uses ur static field. Thats quite imbalancing.
To the best of my knowledge this bug was addresed a while back. Check modNS.org and ensure you have the latest version.
I have not found staticfield to be a problem (at 2 points a pop) on my server however. pSyk0mAn's modification also would help if you have issues with it.
Yesterday I went on wnf combat server and killed lots of skulks at the beginning of a combat game on co_ulysesses. Instead of sticking with a jp/hmg build, I decided to try out the plugin upgrades to see how far I would be able to go. Before I knew it, I had lvl 5 cybernetics and was bunny hopping as a marine and reached the hive several times just as the aliens were spawning and spawned them in for as long as i could before I ran out of ammo. I went 55-12 that game because of these dumb upgrades that gave me advantages that were not meant to be in the game in the first place.
Please remove them. I'm tired of seeing turbo marines and 2000 hp onos. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
YOU WERE NOT ON WNF
you were on the #love server which isn't affliated with WnF
the WnF server only has one plug in that makes it so that No one can get a GL or go ONOS
Yesterday I went on wnf combat server and killed lots of skulks at the beginning of a combat game on co_ulysesses. Instead of sticking with a jp/hmg build, I decided to try out the plugin upgrades to see how far I would be able to go. Before I knew it, I had lvl 5 cybernetics and was bunny hopping as a marine and reached the hive several times just as the aliens were spawning and spawned them in for as long as i could before I ran out of ammo. I went 55-12 that game because of these dumb upgrades that gave me advantages that were not meant to be in the game in the first place.
Please remove them. I'm tired of seeing turbo marines and 2000 hp onos. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's hard enough to find servers with extra upgrades and plug-ins, don't discourage people from putting them on their server. Some people actually enjoy them, myself included. If you were able to do so well you should probably look into playing against higher caliber players instead of complaining about upgrades. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
we had a few high caliber players on our team and we lost to one guy with cybernetics/hmg that game on co_kestrel.
Unknown Worlds doesn't even MAKE server plugins. At the very least, this should be in Server General Discussion.
Actually, it should be on the server forums. Not on these forums.
Another good reason to charge 2 points for Cybernetics. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Unknown Worlds doesn't even MAKE server plugins. At the very least, this should be in Server General Discussion.
Actually, it should be on the server forums. Not on these forums. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Actually no, he's in the right spot. read his thread - he's discussing Frontiersman Strategies. The forum description doesn't say mod strategies excluded. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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is cybernetics the upgrade which makes u run faster as a marine?
what's static?
STUPID SPAWN SHIELD
STUPID SPAWN SHIELD <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah that's another controversial one for sure.