Illuminati/freemasons
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Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">Whats your take on them?</div> I decided to make a thread on this, not so we can break out the foil hats, but because I had a very disturbing experience the other night. I'll explain that first.
Anyway, it was about 2:30AM and it was actually quite clear and bright outside (snow tends to make the environment more bright, and everyone here should know why) My place is perpendicular to this particular persons house. Anyway, I was being quiet and didn't turn the back porch light on because I didn't want to wake anyone. I was taking my dog outside to do #2. Anyway, Out of the corner of my eye I saw a hooded cloaked person walking from a garrage of said neighbors, into the back door of the house. Now, I thought "Robbery in progress" but a woman opened the door for him. It was my neighbors wife. Ok I think maybe they role-play to get his juices flowing since he is an older man. I went back inside, and went to bed. Next morning I was talking to my mom and I mentioned it. She said "Oh that was so-and-so (my neighbor). He's a freemason."
My first reaction was "How the heck do you know" she replied "He was wearing a black cloak wasn't he?" So, I turned to the internet to research. I've heard of freemasons before. How they are of scottish/britain/french decent, and the statue of liberty was constructed by french freemasons and such. Then I started to stumble across things like their obsession with the trinity...anyway long story short I ended up on some conspiracy theory website how they are a shadow government and such. Ok take what I've said and run with it.
Anyway, it was about 2:30AM and it was actually quite clear and bright outside (snow tends to make the environment more bright, and everyone here should know why) My place is perpendicular to this particular persons house. Anyway, I was being quiet and didn't turn the back porch light on because I didn't want to wake anyone. I was taking my dog outside to do #2. Anyway, Out of the corner of my eye I saw a hooded cloaked person walking from a garrage of said neighbors, into the back door of the house. Now, I thought "Robbery in progress" but a woman opened the door for him. It was my neighbors wife. Ok I think maybe they role-play to get his juices flowing since he is an older man. I went back inside, and went to bed. Next morning I was talking to my mom and I mentioned it. She said "Oh that was so-and-so (my neighbor). He's a freemason."
My first reaction was "How the heck do you know" she replied "He was wearing a black cloak wasn't he?" So, I turned to the internet to research. I've heard of freemasons before. How they are of scottish/britain/french decent, and the statue of liberty was constructed by french freemasons and such. Then I started to stumble across things like their obsession with the trinity...anyway long story short I ended up on some conspiracy theory website how they are a shadow government and such. Ok take what I've said and run with it.
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EXPLAIN 2 ME PLZ.
The free masons and the illuminati are 2 seperate entities. The masons are relatively harmless. However, they do have some cultural influence. Remember the flinstones? - Fred and Barney often went to visit the "grand puba" - a cartoon free mason. They even have secret handshakes
The illuminati are more mysterious. They have their origins (supposedly) in egypt. (think they eye in the pyramid). They are linked to the druids with stonehenge, with aliens from other galaxies - they even show up in X-Men comics. Aparently they are an organization dedicated to controling the world - either for its ultimate good or ultimate evil (not sure).
That is about all I know - but it is fun to read!
<a href='http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/' target='_blank'>Interesting site to read</a>
I wouldn't get too worked up over it. To me it sounds like he's a good guy to stay friendly with in case you get into trouble.
TRULY THEY ARE A GIGANTIC THREAT TO US LIKE THE NATIONAL UNION OF TEACHERS, AND LIBARIES!
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No offense but you should really read up on them before saying something like...that. :\
Get the robots
Woop woop.
In any case, the Illuminati are a fascinating group of people, said to be the cause of the French Revolution, the cause of the initial drop in stocks that cause the Depression, the cause of all world wars, and obsessed with the Occult.
None of that is, of course, actually true. Whether the Illuminati exist or not, they simply would not ever have the total control needed to actually cause the events that are laid claim to their name.
Could they influence important people? Sure they could. They probably have. But, in total honesty, power in today's world is fairly decentralized. Banks do not hold enough power, governments do not hold enough power, and malicious entities do not hold enough power to allow a single group to actually control world government's and economies. I know many liberals cry foul about voting and say our election was "rigged," but the simple reality is that it had a few bugs and glitches, better than any other election previously. The power of the republic system setup here in the United States is too well balanced to be so easily controlled by one group of people.
Rich old men often have clubs. Professional men often have clubs. The Freemasons are one such club. Men feel like they are part of something special and unique when they are active, often working in their communities and becoming leaders through these type of organizations.
In all seriousness though, I find the philosophy and history of the Illuminati to be so much more fascinating than the boring, small minded idea that they somehow are the cause of all wrong and Bush winning a second term.
What do bloodlines have to do with anything, quit reciting this retarded Infowars crap and get back with us in the real world <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Infact 90% of all people can trace their bloodlines somehow to Alexander the Great. (no bs)
or if you can come up with a decent answer please get back to me. ASAP.
About the bloodlines thing, It really didn't have any relevance other than It was neat. Personally I didn't care who won the election because really no matter who wins the outcome is the same.
About the bloodlines thing, It really didn't have any relevance other than It was neat. Personally I didn't care who won the election because really no matter who wins the outcome is the same. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, Freemasons have sort of a weird way of accepting people into their guild, one being you have to have had a family member already in it. Another thing is you have to be patriotic. Alot of Vets are also Freemasons and are pro-democratic, infact they were the first anti-collectivists known and they were seen as the devil by the church who saw that a heavy state influenced by the church maintained their power. Freemason are awesome people you can trace their rituals to the Presidential Inauguration.
Because...democracy is a sin, and all. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
The whole tracing back the lines to Roman times is quite pathetic really, seeing as there has been probably about 2000 years since Alexander The Great (I'm no historian, so don't quote the times in anything important).
2000 years = a whole load of people. Think exponentially... THAT is why 90% of people can be traced back to Alexander.
Plus, all I can say to most of this Illuminati stuff, is... Has anyone seen Penn and Teller's Bullsh*t?
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Maybe not in blood, but if you count spouses family with it can be be quite huge. Coupled with the fact there was a new generation every twenty year back then.
Still, you seem to forget all the people that were living at that time. 90% of them were not chaste once Alexander was born. They all continued to do the nasty and simply put there is no way for this to be possible.
Still, you seem to forget all the people that were living at that time. 90% of them were not chaste once Alexander was born. They all continued to do the nasty and simply put there is no way for this to be possible. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ever take a history class? Ask a professor about Alexander's sex life. Holy Bejesus.
Well regardless of Alexander’s sex life, I think we can all agree that Cain was the unluckiest man in history. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Now for <i>him</i> I could believe the 90% figure, but Alexander, I can't believe that comment has gotten so many posts...
Still, you seem to forget all the people that were living at that time. 90% of them were not chaste once Alexander was born. They all continued to do the nasty and simply put there is no way for this to be possible. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ever take a history class? Ask a professor about Alexander's sex life. Holy Bejesus. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, wasn't he totally into Jared Leto?
Damn you, Oliver Stone!
most presidents have been free masons also.
They have TONS o cash in the orginization.
personally, i dont c much difference between masons and illuminati (ecept illuminati control a high percent of all ur money...) my father is in the masons (ova here, they r nicknamed the dodgy handshake brigade <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> ) which means i am gona become a member of the masons, and all i can say is that they r a bunch of dudes who help eachother out and the local econemy and town/city/whateva that covers there whole working organisation... say if u needed a window replaced, u shake the window fitters hand in 'that' way, and if he re-shakes ur hand or something, he cuts price, or better yet, its free... but that means u gota help guys out aswell, its like a self-supporting economy (which is what the feel the world should have been like, imagine it, no more poverty, no more rich basterds in there mansions, etc etc....
so, i dunno bout lumi's, but mansons r the cool guys, no uber wicked sick religious 'tables' that they gota follow lol (is that rumor true bout lumi's???)
I'll post more thoughts later
If he had 100 children, those children had 100 children ^ 10
On the alexander thing, If you look through the worlds history there are a few periods within human history that our population was so small the only way for us to exist in the numbers we do today is massive inbreeding, so im pretty sure i could trace my bloodline back to 90% of the people on this board.
I suppose that having heard the opinion of someone with family in the Freemasons, that views may start to get better on the side of the masons. However, personally, to me, that explanation that Jamespsx offered seemed to verge on Communistic ways, with the community that shares and does free favors for the others. But then again, the entire precept of a self-supporting community is really only possible under almost scientific environmental conditions, excepting that the community has links to the outside world that extend beyond just a supplier for the raw materials in, say, a uPVC window frame. If anything like what Jamespsx's offering of the Freemasons is possible, then it (the community) would need to have influence, or even control of a hell of a lot of resources beyond any example of supply, it would need to extend all the way back to the raw materials themselves. (Sorry if this is getting a bit heavy)...
But anyway, people like the Freemasons <u>could</u> actually be beneficial to any area, but any society that remains almost in secret has instantly diminished any sphere of influence other than any company, or individual that is "controlled" by that society. Controlled in a VERY loose application, being that most societies thrive on willing people to be members.
Think I'm gonna stop here, I can see this going on all day...