Misuse Of The Knife...

Raza.Raza. Join Date: 2004-01-24 Member: 25663Members, Constellation
Well, each marine has his knife and it's ok if it's used to finish wounded skulks or lerks in close combat.
<i>Wounded</i>. It's normally not a good idea to try to kill even skulks with your knife only.
Quite normal scene on pubs: A skulk attacks a heavie. The heavie thinks "Hey a little skulk, he cant do anything to me, lets knife him!" Most of the time the skulk will be killed. But the heavie also will loose his armor! And if a fade comes around the next corner the heavie is most likely dead himself.

Another point is the use of the knife against fade and oni. There shouldn't be any use at all in my opinion, but I've seen many player emtpy their clip into a fade and then start knifing. That's completely pointless!
If you are on the field and couldn't kill the fade with lmg/pistol/whatever then you won't kill him with your knife! (in 99,999999%)
Reload your weapon instead - if you weren't killed while reloading chances you kill the fade are much better.
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  • Ice9Ice9 Join Date: 2004-06-09 Member: 29208Members
    edited January 2005
    I totally agree, but when fighting lower-level lifeforms (Gorges, Skulks, and Lerks), I find that when I empty my primary weapon clip, I switch to my knife first. If they start to run, I whip out my pistol and bust a cap in their arse <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

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  • obuhobuh Not Quite Smart at NS Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15072Members, Constellation
    The advantage of knifing is that if you crouch and knife upwards, the fade or onos will be knocked back a few meters, thus having the potential of preventing him from escaping, which is useful if there is someone else with you to shoot him down.

    Apparently knife knockback will be gone in beta 6, meaning you won't be able to do this. But it will be a bit easier to knife down skulks, because they won't be knocked back away from you, and you'll be able to hit them with several knife slashes in quick succession.
  • LumpLump Join Date: 2003-04-16 Member: 15558Members
    your clearly just not pro enough to knife
  • Raza.Raza. Join Date: 2004-01-24 Member: 25663Members, Constellation
    So when do you use your knife? Tell us your experiences but don't write such useless comments.
  • DC_DarklingDC_Darkling Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18068Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver
    empty gun
    empty pistol
    knife
    I hardly reload
  • VerthandiVerthandi Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10687Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-Razagal+Jan 11 2005, 11:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Razagal @ Jan 11 2005, 11:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So when do you use your knife? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Against structures. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • KesterKester Join Date: 2004-02-21 Member: 26770Members, Constellation
    Who says you shouldn't resort to knifes when your attacking a fade. Even on a full health fade. I've done it before and won, granted I emptied my smg and pistol first though =]
  • DroneFraggerDroneFragger Join Date: 2005-01-09 Member: 34101Members
    "Knife? THERES A FRICKIN KNIFE IN THIS GAME! OMG I HAD NO IDEA! EVEN THOUGH I'VE HAD NS FOR OVER 2 MONTHS!!!!!!!!!!!!" Is my opion on the knife, seldom used seldom actually even pulled out. I'd rather reload my hmg than use the knife.
  • voiallvoiall Join Date: 2005-01-09 Member: 34095Members
  • LumpLump Join Date: 2003-04-16 Member: 15558Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Razagal+Jan 11 2005, 10:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Razagal @ Jan 11 2005, 10:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So when do you use your knife? Tell us your experiences but don't write such useless comments. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    it was a joke for **** sake, calm down and dont hurt yourself.

    i knife when my lmg and pistol are dead or i am on my own in a crowded area against a structer with chances of being rushed by many (unles my comm tells me to shoot the structure)
    HAPPY?!

    some dmg > 0 dmg.. no matter what. most time u wont live long enough against an onos/fade to reload but the dmg u do inflict from a knife might be the decider.
  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    Hey, I need to continue collecting screenshots of knifekills of lerks, fades, and onii (only one of those so far <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
    But yeah, when I'm onosing, it's the most annoying thing to get knocked around by a bunch of marines with knives out, while two more shoot me with hmgs....stupid stupid stupid <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Raza.Raza. Join Date: 2004-01-24 Member: 25663Members, Constellation
    kk, sry. I wasn't sure because there was no smilie. You'll never know... <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • DC_DarklingDC_Darkling Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18068Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver
    yeh.. knife can be powerfull.

    last on the xs4all classic server I saw a egg.
    shot my LMG in it, my pistol, and since reloading takes time, and I had no clue how long it egged I took me knife out.

    A onos hopped out, but was hurt enought to die by my knife.
    That person left the server.

    Now if I had bothered to reload I would not have made it.
  • Gecko_God_Of_DooomGecko_God_Of_Dooom Join Date: 2004-02-10 Member: 26353Members
    If you get yoru LMG clip and pistol clip into a fade, chances are you can now knife it with in 1-4 hits. its realy worth a shot.
  • LofungLofung Join Date: 2004-08-21 Member: 30757Members
    before b6, knife still gonna be the best weapon against onos, bouncing it <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • NEO_PhyteNEO_Phyte We need shirtgons&#33; Join Date: 2003-12-16 Member: 24453Members, Constellation
    im not sure if it has changed, but i remember the knife letting you run faster while selected (not by much, but hey)
  • kiwikiwi Join Date: 2003-09-13 Member: 20803Members
    knifing fades/onos can be good

    if you empty your lmg + pistol at a fade he will have almost no armor, or no armor left. now reloading your lmg takes a few secs. pulling out your knife takes no time. if a fade sees you with a knife out he thinks i just got another kill and will not blink away, he will try and kill you. during these 1 or 2 secs before you die, when your knife is countering the regen other marines could be getting close enough to finish off the fade, or could be moving into the place where the fade is next going to blink to. a fade with no armor is probably going to head towards a gorge or some dcs for faster healing. if there is another marine between these 2 places. there is a pretty good chance he will kill the fade.
  • Raza.Raza. Join Date: 2004-01-24 Member: 25663Members, Constellation
    Decent fades will run if they have low health.
    May work on pubs though, but I havn't seen a fade-knifekill for ages now, and I really play alot. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • LorenzoLorenzo Join Date: 2004-01-23 Member: 25624Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Lofung+Jan 11 2005, 11:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lofung @ Jan 11 2005, 11:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->before b6, knife still gonna be the best weapon against onos, bouncing it <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ya ya.


    i knife the onos until the marine team come with HMG and kill him ^^




    only in co; if ns, i'm going to run or hide.... <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SvenpaSvenpa Wait, what? Join Date: 2004-01-03 Member: 25012Members, Constellation
    edited January 2005
    in b5 if you crouch and hit their legs you can get some serious knockback, even start juggling the onos thats why.

    Edit: Didn't notice above post til now <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • tjosantjosan Join Date: 2003-05-16 Member: 16374Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-NEO Phyte+Jan 11 2005, 11:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO Phyte @ Jan 11 2005, 11:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> im not sure if it has changed, but i remember the knife letting you run faster while selected (not by much, but hey) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This isnt true. Every weapon and ammo clip you carry will slow you down however, so if you drop your pistol and lmg you will speed up significantly. Just drawing your knife while still having your other guns equiped wont help though.
  • AndervalAnderval &lt;3 Join Date: 2003-05-05 Member: 16073Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-tjosan+Jan 12 2005, 08:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (tjosan @ Jan 12 2005, 08:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-NEO Phyte+Jan 11 2005, 11:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (NEO Phyte @ Jan 11 2005, 11:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> im not sure if it has changed, but i remember the knife letting you run faster while selected (not by much, but hey) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This isnt true. Every weapon and ammo clip you carry will slow you down however, so if you drop your pistol and lmg you will speed up significantly. Just drawing your knife while still having your other guns equiped wont help though. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    actually it does, but only but a couple of points from a couple of hundered total <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • AndervalAnderval &lt;3 Join Date: 2003-05-05 Member: 16073Members, Constellation
    edited January 2005
    sigh, double post forums crashed when i clicked post!
  • tjosantjosan Join Date: 2003-05-16 Member: 16374Members, Constellation
    I just got totally owned.

    Speed with LMG out: 206
    Speed with Pistol out: 208
    Speed with knife out: 210

    With starting ammo.
  • DreyaDreya Join Date: 2004-08-25 Member: 30896Members
    Well, the major problem with even trying to knife is that people underestimate their enemy's range. From what I've tried (not very often, mind you, so it has a pretty good chance of being mistaken), knifing a skulk front-on, even is suicide. Their bitegun range is longer than your knife's. So really, beyond structures there's not much point to knifing, as any lifeform that survived your lmg/pistol probably has enough sense to hit you from a direction other than the side. Well, unless you're the amazing circle-strafe, hit the fade in the back while it swipes where you just were, master that is. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SLizerSLizer Join Date: 2003-11-07 Member: 22363Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Gecko God Of Dooom+Jan 11 2005, 06:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gecko God Of Dooom @ Jan 11 2005, 06:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you get yoru LMG clip and pistol clip into a fade, chances are you can now knife it with in 1-4 hits. its realy worth a shot. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nice to see familiar guys here!

    Yup knife is terrbile weapon due the knockback and skulks are often hindered to be picked by one swipe (if not wise/tempting faith[me pubs <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> ] )

    But you have chances of maybe 5% to kill that onos/fade with knife so you could just reload....
  • Cj_the_DjCj_the_Dj Join Date: 2004-03-18 Member: 27398Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-DC Darkling+Jan 11 2005, 07:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DC Darkling @ Jan 11 2005, 07:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> empty gun
    empty pistol
    knife
    I hardly reload <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ^^
  • DC_DarklingDC_Darkling Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18068Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver
    ok.. I do reload if I still live and both guns need reloading.
  • CheeseCheese Lork on the Clorf Join Date: 2003-12-15 Member: 24396Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The advantage of knifing is that if you crouch and knife upwards, the fade or onos will be knocked back a few meters, thus having the potential of preventing him from escaping, which is useful if there is someone else with you to shoot him down.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Say hello to Beta6 <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • EggmanEggman Join Date: 2004-09-05 Member: 31423Members
    I hate that when I'm a fade or onos against one marine and he just keeps knifing me... I mean, I'll still kill him, but it takes a bit longer and it's irritating being thrown around by a minuscule knife. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> But yeah, it's good that they're taking the knockback out. It might even be better for marines in some cases.
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