Damage Sim Updated!

ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
<div class="IPBDescription">Many bugs fixed!</div> Take a look, and please test:

<a href='http://www.cri-hacks.com/damage/' target='_blank'>Check it out!</a>

The damage sim was originally done for the release of 2.0, and has been updated ever since. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> The newest version has fixed a ton of bugs, is much faster to use now, as it is completely object oriented instead of linear, has a totally new interface, full of pretty colors, and a new system which allows you to change weapons mid calculations; so you can see how many hits it takes to kill a fade with a pistol after connecting with 35 lv. 3 LMG shots.

This was all done by #cri.ogenics, so if there are any thanks please gave him due.

Hopefully a program such as this will help players to better learn and understand the game.

One of the new bugs fixed in the latest edition of the damage sim is that focus is now 100% accurate; did you know a focus bite actually deals 149.3? Kind of extraneous, I know, but now you can really find out how many bites it takes to kill that pesky turret factory that is seiging your hive.

Comments

  • l3igDl3igD Join Date: 2003-11-20 Member: 23262Members
    Uh, It says hive2 fade dies in <b>31</b> hits from a lvl 3 shotgun. I thought it was more like 5...
  • l3igDl3igD Join Date: 2003-11-20 Member: 23262Members
    Oh, So shotty does 22 per pellet... Wow...
  • AbsolutCamperAbsolutCamper Join Date: 2004-05-10 Member: 28591Members
    Dammit, level 3 LMGs arent as powerful as I thought.
  • DelphiDelphi Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15134Members, Constellation
    I believe he pulled the numbers from mp_drawdamage and general armor calculations (Most of which were posted in changelogs or the boards, as far as how much armor and what kind absorbs what.)

    I'm too lazy to look: Did you include the extra armor absorbtion of 2 and 3 hives?
  • GrahfGrahf Join Date: 2004-01-21 Member: 25558Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I'm too lazy to look: Did you include the extra armor absorbtion of 2 and 3 hives? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes, it was in the last version too.
  • PetcoPetco Join Date: 2003-07-27 Member: 18478Members, Constellation
    edited June 2004
    Level 3 LMG kills hive 2 onos in 170 hits + regen that would = 190 shots? Ok 4 marines shoot an onog with full clip and it's killed. Also LMG level 3 = 13 damage per bullet. Also one level 3 HMG even with a level 3 carapace/3 hive onos and level 3 regen. All you need is a full clip just to kill an onos.
  • napinapi Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14172Members, Constellation
    love this... have used it a number of times in the past. good job all who made it <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • 999Hydralisk999Hydralisk Join Date: 2004-04-13 Member: 27907Members
    Ummm i tried to see how many heal sprays to kill a LA o armor marine and it displays onos claw. Might want to fix that for us gorge lovers.


    I hope its not just me... <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • DelphiDelphi Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15134Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Petco+Jun 25 2004, 01:06 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Petco @ Jun 25 2004, 01:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Level 3 LMG kills hive 2 onos in 170 hits + regen that would = 190 shots? Ok 4 marines shoot an onog with full clip and it's killed. Also LMG level 3 = 13 damage per bullet. Also one level 3 HMG even with a level 3 carapace/3 hive onos and level 3 regen. All you need is a full clip just to kill an onos. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Some shots do miss, btw. The damage calculator is assuming all shots hit. A lot of shots towards an onos don't, even in larg(er) groups because of those evil FF nanites blocking shots. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    I'm sure you could do tests in-game and get the same results as the damage indicator.. uh, indicates. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I'm sure you could do tests in-game and get the same results as the damage indicator.. uh, indicates.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The damage indicator will show you how much health and armor is left after each hit, which can't be determined ingame unless you have several people sitting around on the server, and the person you are killing tells you their stats after each hit. Not very fun.
  • EvenFlowEvenFlow Join Date: 2002-12-18 Member: 11046Members
    11 Acid rockets to kill a lvl 3 armor light marine :/
  • tjosantjosan Join Date: 2003-05-16 Member: 16374Members, Constellation
    It doesnt work with Opera tbh.

    You're not employees of Microsoft, right? <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    people have this phobia of dmg TABLEs nowadays :'( thats a pity :/
  • BattleTechBattleTech Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4137Members
    You forgot peircing damage from HMG to structures.
  • ElectricSheepElectricSheep Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15716Members
    edited June 2004
    BUG!!!
    Onos Hive 2
    Lmg lvl 3
    at no carapace it takes 199 bullets
    with lvl 3 carapace it takes 198 bullets....

    Only if you do carapace first then do normal, do normal twice for real thing.
  • VampMasterVampMaster Join Date: 2003-03-16 Member: 14585Members
    No matter what I choose on the alien side, I always end up seeing the Onos Claw table.
  • SalvationSalvation Join Date: 2003-11-21 Member: 23300Members
    neat

    should be useful for all and useful for newcomers in a way

    maybe #NSguides could use it somehow
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-ElectricSheep+Jun 25 2004, 04:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ElectricSheep @ Jun 25 2004, 04:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> BUG!!!
    Onos Hive 2
    Lmg lvl 3
    at no carapace it takes 199 bullets
    with lvl 3 carapace it takes 198 bullets....

    Only if you do carapace first then do normal, do normal twice for real thing. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    thats lvl 0 vs lvl 0 and lvl 3 vs lvl 3 you ninny!
  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    <span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'>!</span>

    woohoo it's been updated!


    much <3
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    Wow... 125 bullets at lvl 0 HMG to a hive 3 Onos w/ regen kills it.

    And only 85 with a level 3 hmg against a hive 2 onos (in most cases you have this matchup)


    I find it amazing how a Onos dies so freakin fast and 1 JP/LA can EASILY kill a hive 2 Onos. Especially with the HMG HUGE high ROF. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • MavericMaveric Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1101Members
    It only takes <b>6 pellets</b>, <i>not even a full shot</i>, from a normal level 0 shotgun to kill a noncarapaced skulk at hive 1. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Seems a bit over-kill, doesn't it?
  • BattleTechBattleTech Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4137Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Maveric+Jun 25 2004, 01:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maveric @ Jun 25 2004, 01:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It only takes <b>6 pellets</b>, <i>not even a full shot</i>, from a normal level 0 shotgun to kill a noncarapaced skulk at hive 1. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Seems a bit over-kill, doesn't it? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's funny because it take's two to three shot's to kill a Skulk most of the time.
  • criogenicscriogenics Join Date: 2003-01-13 Member: 12248Members, Constellation
    Level 3 Focus actually does less than double damage because Charlie apparently used .33 instead of 1/3... Oops? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • im_lostim_lost TWG Rule Guru Join Date: 2003-04-26 Member: 15861Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-tjosan+Jun 25 2004, 05:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (tjosan @ Jun 25 2004, 05:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It doesnt work with Opera tbh.

    You're not employees of Microsoft, right? <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It seems to work fine with Firefox.
  • DantemssDantemss Join Date: 2003-12-13 Member: 24305Members
    Also claw deals 180 to structures, not 90.
  • DelphiDelphi Join Date: 2003-04-02 Member: 15134Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Dantemss+Jun 25 2004, 03:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dantemss @ Jun 25 2004, 03:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Also claw deals 180 to structures, not 90. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And with focus, it does 359.3 or something. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • AbsolutCamperAbsolutCamper Join Date: 2004-05-10 Member: 28591Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-tjosan+Jun 25 2004, 08:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (tjosan @ Jun 25 2004, 08:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It doesnt work with Opera tbh.

    You're not employees of Microsoft, right? <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Works on firefox fine.
  • AfrAfr Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16240Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-BattleTech+Jun 25 2004, 12:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BattleTech @ Jun 25 2004, 12:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Maveric+Jun 25 2004, 01:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Maveric @ Jun 25 2004, 01:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It only takes <b>6 pellets</b>, <i>not even a full shot</i>, from a normal level 0 shotgun to kill a noncarapaced skulk at hive 1. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Seems a bit over-kill, doesn't it? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's funny because it take's two to three shot's to kill a Skulk most of the time. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sparks anyone?
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