Re-working My Map

Jean_Luc_PicardJean_Luc_Picard Join Date: 2003-02-03 Member: 13051Members
edited May 2004 in Mapping Forum
<div class="IPBDescription">NS_Earthbound</div> Ok, here we go! I got my map working ok on my laptop (little slow, but meh) but I am going to need some help on the finishing touches (things like HINT brushes and that... dunno how to use em yet ^-^(sweatdrop) )
Anywho, I've got 3 screenshots of three rooms in progress.

Climate Control (marine start) with a bunker
Freezer Hive (with inverse siege position BEHIND the spawn points, makes an interesting rush tactic)
Quasi Node Mountain (not named yet.. lol, but it's an icy peak with 4 res nodes on it, and a no-build for anythign BUT res nodes)
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  • brute_forcebrute_force Join Date: 2003-10-04 Member: 21433Members, Constellation
    Do a google search for "HINT brushes" or something, and you should find plenty tutorials. I can give you a basic explanation here though: HINT brushes cut up VIS leafs. These leafs decide what you can and cannot see. So for example, if you're standing in a room, the game checks everything that you can see from this visleaf, and renders it. Sometimes, these visleafs will be really big, making the engine render more than what you can actually see. Take, for example, a corridor with a bunch of doors on each side, each leading into a room. The vis leaf for the corridor runs all the way along, so the engine will think you can see every room here. This might generate very high r_speeds. However, with hint brushes cutting up the vis leafs, the engine might only render a couple of rooms at a time.

    Anyway, as I said, search for a tutorial, I'm sure they're alot better than my explanations <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • NaigelNaigel Join Date: 2003-07-23 Member: 18376Members, Constellation
    You said you had screenshots... where are they? Or am I mistaking?
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  • Jean_Luc_PicardJean_Luc_Picard Join Date: 2003-02-03 Member: 13051Members
    yes, I have 4 screenshots (3 normal, and a wireframe) of rine start... but I had to save em as .gif (onyl thing my laptop has ATM) so they are around 1.65 meg each 0o; and I dun have a host online... *crys*

    I'm trying to fix em... but my picture it skills are not strong with the force yet *wheeps*


    Yes, I know what HINT brushes do, just dun know how to use em <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->


    *cough* ns_bast needs some... *cough*
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  • Kouji_SanKouji_San Sr. Hινε Uρкεερεг - EUPT Deputy The Netherlands Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
    edited May 2004
    *points finger <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> * evil thread without screenshots!!!

    w2k/xp mspaint is able to save under jpg (dunno what kind of compresion it uses but it should be able to cut down your filesize)
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  • brute_forcebrute_force Join Date: 2003-10-04 Member: 21433Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Jean Luc Picard+May 7 2004, 07:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jean Luc Picard @ May 7 2004, 07:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yes, I know what HINT brushes do, just dun know how to use em <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Er, texture all faces with SKIP except for one which you texture with HINT <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • DerangedDeranged Join Date: 2004-04-07 Member: 27774Members
    make them smaller, and then e-mail them to me (martin110@cogeco.ca) I can post them for you..
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  • Once_OnlyOnce_Only Join Date: 2004-05-15 Member: 28700Members
    use the vertex tool. try not to do it with cylinders though, mainly because its hard to keep the faces straight. (theres only one face at each end of a cylinder, so the vertices have to all stay in line, the same happens if you move one verticie on a cube and you get dissappearing faces).
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  • Jean_Luc_PicardJean_Luc_Picard Join Date: 2003-02-03 Member: 13051Members
    WHOOPS! I nearly forgot about this thread!


    HERE are the screen shots (NOT up to date per say,. but close)
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  • Jean_Luc_PicardJean_Luc_Picard Join Date: 2003-02-03 Member: 13051Members
    #2
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  • Jean_Luc_PicardJean_Luc_Picard Join Date: 2003-02-03 Member: 13051Members
    As soon as I can, I'll post up the updated ones...


    But I have a request... I need a way to connect 4 pipes at 45* angles SMOOTHLY...

    I tried to use the clip tool to do it... but I wound up with over 800 faces in a 2 P by 2 P by 2 P cube (where P = marine player height in UNITS) ... and about 200 invalid solid errors...

    I'm now making my own but it looks VERY boxy...
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  • Jean_Luc_PicardJean_Luc_Picard Join Date: 2003-02-03 Member: 13051Members
    edited May 2004
    hmm... I'll try.

    Perhaps I'll just stick with the square one I made... it's not the pertyest thing, but it works!

    BTW- Kouji, I'll post up the new pics ASAP. I want your opinion on em <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> I personally think it'll be a good map (maybe a small problem with the final assault, as onii cannot enter the bunker itself and rines/fades have to crouch)
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  • Jean_Luc_PicardJean_Luc_Picard Join Date: 2003-02-03 Member: 13051Members
    Aw sh*t... my laptop is being funky now... i can only boot it up in safe mode. I'd just transfer all the map stuff over to my PC and re-format it, but the only way I can do that is via USB drive (it doesn't have a floppy drive, as I opted for a CD/DVD combo instead) and it doesnt' recognize my USB drive in safe mode...


    D@MN@TION! Hours of work possibly down the tubes! YARGH!


    Does anyone know how I could FORCE it to boot in normal mode? It will get about half way thru loading windows, then it freezes... not sure why. It just started doing this when I went to boot it up this morning...
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  • Dorian_GrayDorian_Gray Join Date: 2004-02-15 Member: 26581Members, Constellation
    edited May 2004
    Okay since you don't need to <i>write</i> to the disk, only to read, get Knoppix from <a href='http://www.knoppix.net' target='_blank'>here</a>, burn it to CD, boot it and mount your windows partition somewhere, copy the files off and transfer them over a network (or your USB drive _might_ work with the 2.6.5 kernel in Knoppix 3.4). However, the 2.6.5 kernel isn't default, so if you can't figure out how to boot to it check the forums on knoppix.net. Or if you've never used linux... yeah check the forums. If you don't have a network, floppy drive OR usable USB drive... then you may very well be screwed <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • wascally_wabbitwascally_wabbit Join Date: 2003-09-09 Member: 20701Members
    If it can connect to the internet in safe mode, you could always just upload it to a free webhost thing, or a friend, or DCC it to your other computer, or... etc. etc.
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  • Jean_Luc_PicardJean_Luc_Picard Join Date: 2003-02-03 Member: 13051Members
    hmmm... I dunno what to do... I'll prolly throw it at my techie and say HERE, FIX AND SAVE, DATA

    XD
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  • Jean_Luc_PicardJean_Luc_Picard Join Date: 2003-02-03 Member: 13051Members
    hmm... my best bet it seems so far is to try making a bootable CD...
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  • Jean_Luc_PicardJean_Luc_Picard Join Date: 2003-02-03 Member: 13051Members
    Well, it's official. The LAPTOP is dead... the boot files are corrupted to hell...

    THERE IS SALVATION for me tho! I found out that I might be able to salvage the files by disconnecting my laptop's HD and plugging it into my PC as an EXERNAL INTERNAL hard drive (IE, plugged into MOBO as a 2nd hard drive)

    I SHOULD be able to get the files off of it! *looks up*

    Can someone say a prayer in the hopes this works and doesn't short out my HD? <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> Cause i dun know if it'll work or not 0o'
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