Kill Bill

pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
edited April 2004 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">Volume 2</div> Just got home from it.

Fantastic, just as good as the first one. A wee bit less action, but the same solid Tarantino ownage.

Go out and see it now. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

<b>Edit:</b> Weirdest typo I've ever made.
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  • GrillkohleGrillkohle Join Date: 2003-12-23 Member: 24695Members, Constellation
    Oh god. I saw the first movie, and I did not like it at all.
    I don't have a problem with action, and certainly not with violence, but that was just too much, I could not see why the entire theater was laughing every time a head was chopped off.

    Oh well...
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    Does this one have terrible acting[Lucy Lu in the first one], terrible anime blood effects, and horrible shots? If it's pretty much the first, it's a let down.
  • NecroticNecrotic Big Girl&#39;s Blouse Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 53Members, NS1 Playtester
    I too was dissapointed with the first one, I'm a great fan of tarantino and I picked up on all his cross references with characters and between his differant movies. Overall I felt Kill Bill is by far his weakest film to date.

    I'll still be going to see the next part when it hits the kino over here.
  • Cr-ckCr-ck Join Date: 2003-09-14 Member: 20873Members
    I havnt even seen the first one...Why did they release the 2nd one so early?
  • NecroticNecrotic Big Girl&#39;s Blouse Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 53Members, NS1 Playtester
    Its one film, split in two. Tarantino wanted one ~4 hour long film but studio wouldn't let him so instead of editing out a load of stuff he just cut it in half and released it seperately.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Liku+Apr 16 2004, 12:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Apr 16 2004, 12:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> terrible anime blood effects <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    are you talking about the live-action scene or the anime scene?

    i'm guessing you're talking about the live action blood effects.

    tarantino refused to let his special effects coordinator person use modern blood squibs or digital enhancement in Kill Bill. instead, he did it old school, as a tribute blood opera style.

    he filled condoms with blood fluid for use as squibs.
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Zig+Apr 16 2004, 01:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zig @ Apr 16 2004, 01:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> tarantino refused to let his special effects coordinator person use modern blood squibs or digital enhancement in Kill Bill. instead, he did it old school, as a tribute blood opera style.

    he filled condoms with blood fluid for use as squibs. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well his "tribute" made a lot of his movie look stupid. At least he did it with style and used Condoms. Probably Magnums too.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Liku+Apr 16 2004, 01:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Apr 16 2004, 01:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> At least he did it with style and used Condoms. Probably Magnums too. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i wouldn't be surprised... the spec. fx guy said over 450 gallons of blood fluid were used across the two movies <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • StarchyStarchy Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15727Members, Constellation
    Oh I really can't wait to see this one. It comes out next week (UK release). The first was great and I really hope Vol. II doesn't let me down. W00t! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Har_Har_the_PirateHar_Har_the_Pirate Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19388Members, Constellation
    i havnt seen the first one, but i love his other work
  • torquetorque Join Date: 2003-08-20 Member: 20035Members, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    I thought the first film was good in a fun, don't-take-any-of-it-seriously action flick way. It certainly was one big cliche-fest, but still.. it was fun.

    The ONLY thing that really, really drove me insane about the whole film was the Japanese. I realize Lucy Liu is a) not actually Japanese and b) is only playing a half-Japanese character, but ... for someone who's supposed to be the underground gang lord OF JAPAN... come on, guys. Uma Thurman's Japanese was equally appalling, and it took ages for me to understand anything she was trying to say (disregarding subtitles).

    That said.. IT HAD CHIAKI KURIYAMA (Go Go Yubari). I love and worship her, and want to be her girlfriend. So I was really happy to see her in an American film.... even if she does meet the untimely end that she does. *sob*

    I'm going to see vol 2 tonight, possibly. Looking forward to it.
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    Frankly you could not pay me to see this movie. I only saw about 15-20 minutes of the first one before I couldn't stand the horribleness any more. Even though I didn't pay for the movie I still feel cheated out of that time. Worst Tarintino movie ever. It is a serious step-down from Tarintino's easrlier movies.
  • BOBDololBOBDolol Join Date: 2003-10-04 Member: 21431Members
    I guess it's a love it or hate it movie. Personally i thought the 1st one was awesome and i'm gonna see volume 2 sometime next week.
  • ScytheScythe Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 46NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation, Reinforced - Silver
    <!--QuoteBegin-BOBDOLOL+Apr 17 2004, 10:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BOBDOLOL @ Apr 17 2004, 10:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I guess it's a love it or hate it movie. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Tarrantino movies are like that.

    Remember that the action wasn't supposed to be realistic, t'was <b>surrealism</b> that Tarrantino was aiming for.

    I saw Kill Bill one last night. Holy carp is is fun.

    --Scythe--
  • reasareasa Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8010Members, Constellation
    Great movie, it's no Pulp Fiction, but it's good none the less.
  • Har_Har_the_PirateHar_Har_the_Pirate Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19388Members, Constellation
    im in love with resovoir dogs <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    awsome flippin movie
  • Fade_DunawayFade_Dunaway Join Date: 2003-05-12 Member: 16235Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Does this one have terrible acting[Lucy Lu in the first one], terrible anime blood effects, and horrible shots? If it's pretty much the first, it's a let down. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    This isn't an "action movie," it's more of a live-action anime. Taken as such especially, it's an excellent movie and well written, directed and acted.

    Admittedly though, it's an aquired taste.
  • hellokittyhellokitty riotkitty Join Date: 2003-04-09 Member: 15348Members
    I enjoyed seeing Kill Bill and look forward to seeing the KB2 tommorrow. (I'm at a LAN in WA now.. so it's gonna have to wait a day. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->) I just bought the DVD for KB and Resovoir Dogs the other day. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> I'm gonna watch KB again before I see KB2. w00t!

    I agree with Fade, watching Kill Bill was like watching a live-action manga. The scenes were even divided up into chapters; I thought that was kind of cool.
    Mangas usually tend to contain more violence and nudity compared to anime series or movies based on the mangas. That's why I wasn't surprised seeing all those limbs being loped off, and blood bath.

    Call me a sick-o but I loved the gore. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    that was..

    terrific.

    style.. so much style. no other movie has the sme amt. of groove that KB has.
  • RyoOhkiRyoOhki Join Date: 2003-01-26 Member: 12789Members
    I'm amazed that so few people in this thread liked Kill Bill. Personally I loved the movie and I'm looking forwards to Episode 2 with great enthusiasm.
  • TenSixTenSix Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7932Members
    edited April 2004
    Even though it had no where near the ammount of over the top action and blood as in Volume 1, somehow I was still never bored watching Volume 2. Some of the dialouge was drawn out, but somehow it was captivating. I think both movies are awsome on their own.

    Tarentino also said he was planning to release Volume 1 & 2 as a single movie, as he first intended. That cut will also feature the Crazy 88 fight in full color and some scenes they had to cut for the US release (but which were included in the Japanese theatrical release).

    Oh yeah, what exactly was with the trailer for Hero? Didn't that come out last year?

    EDIT: Yes it seems Hero came out awhile ago, but for whatever reason, the US release isnt until June of this year. But if your impatient you can buy the DVD on Amazon with English subtitles (all together now.. WTH?).
  • TeKniKaLTeKniKaL Join Date: 2003-01-27 Member: 12802Members
  • RustySpoonRustySpoon Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18069Members
    Wow <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    I'm surprised to see so many of you actally didn't like the movie.
    Everyone I know, who went to see it just loved it.
    I mean, it's action sequences are better than any of the matrixes in my opinion.
  • Mr_JeburtOMr_JeburtO Join Date: 2003-08-29 Member: 20340Members
    edited April 2004
    went to see volume one with a couple of friends and they hated it. (not surprising as only 3 of my friends actually know what anime is, and its style). i myself was slightly disappointed with it but im still genna go see volume 2
  • DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18951Members
    if you say you like Tarantino but hated Kill Bill, then you really just don't get Tarantino at all. Zig hit the nail on the head. Tarantino movies are about style, and in that respect, it's the most polished of his work to date. It's PURE style. The style is just less about the dialogue and more about the visuals than usual. Quentin is an auteur. He makes exactly the movie he wants, inspired by the (usually campy) things he loves, like blood opera and other bad kung-fu movies, 70's/80's TV, spaghetti westerns... he magnifies everything cool about such things, and magnifies everything funny about them too...

    feh, he can explain himself:<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->(On how to take the violence in Kill Bill: Vol 1. (Re: The final duel with Lucy Liu)) "It's supposed to be kind of amusing and poetic at the same time. And also just a teeny-tiny bit solemn. When you see her head, it's funny. And then her line, "that really was a Hattori Hanzo sword.," that's funny. But then, the next shot is not funny, when she tips over and Meiko Kaji is singing about revenge on the soundtrack. So, it's all together. Funny. Solemn. Beautiful. Gross. All at the same time."<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • AllUrHiveRblong2usAllUrHiveRblong2us By Your Powers Combined... Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11244Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-DiscoZombie+Apr 17 2004, 07:20 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DiscoZombie @ Apr 17 2004, 07:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> if you say you like Tarantino but hated Kill Bill, then you really just don't get Tarantino at all. Zig hit the nail on the head. Tarantino movies are about style, and in that respect, it's the most polished of his work to date. It's PURE style. The style is just less about the dialogue and more about the visuals than usual. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If the style was about visuals, then maybe we could be shown some camera angles that DON'T seem like they were done by a film student who said "Wow this would look cool! [snort]" The movie has some absolutely TERRIBLE camera work, almost sadistically so, or at least it did in the parts I watched.
  • QuaunautQuaunaut The longest seven days in history... Join Date: 2003-03-21 Member: 14759Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Well, while I haven't seen it, if its true that its all about the style, its for me. To me, Style is everything(hence why I'd rather have a vette than a Viper- the vette is PURE style. That, and a 54 mustang.)

    And if this is like mangas- oh God, I don't think I've ever said this about anything(games included), but orgasms abound.
  • CyndaneCyndane Join Date: 2003-11-15 Member: 22913Members
    On that note Q, I'd take a Viper long before a Vette.

    I haven't seen Kill Bill 1 yet but then I probably won't untill I can buy them both for 3 dollars and considering the mildness of this state, it will be like 2 months. So.. hopefully they are good.
  • V_MANV_MAN V-MAN Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6217Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Starchy+Apr 16 2004, 09:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Starchy @ Apr 16 2004, 09:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Oh I really can't wait to see this one. It comes out next week (UK release). The first was great and I really hope Vol. II doesn't let me down. W00t! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Your not old enough to go see it stacey <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • big_jimbig_jim Join Date: 2003-12-14 Member: 24350Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Apr 17 2004, 09:54 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Apr 17 2004, 09:54 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> (hence why I'd rather have a vette than a Viper- the vette is PURE style. That, and a 54 mustang.)
    <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    vette over a viper - darn tootin', but then again i'd take a 64/5/6/7 mustang any day over anything (no such thing as 54 mustang Q, they first came out in 1964.5)

    and to make this post on topic: tbh i really didnt like vol. 1, i cant put my finger on why, but i did. i got all the references etc etc, but something wasnt right about it for me :/ didnt find it funny or anything, i just sat there wishing id gone to see finding nemo instead
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