<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The Muslim Council of Britain utterly condemns today's indiscriminate acts of terror in London. These evil deeds makes victims of us all. It is our humanity that must bring us shoulder to shoulder to condemn, to oppose and to overcome those who would spread fear, hatred and death.
Our sympathies and our prayers are with the victims, their families and friends. We extend our support and gratitude to the emergency services, the Police and all the frontline services charged with our collective security.
"The evil people who planned and carried out these series of explosions in London this morning want to demoralise us as a nation and divide us as a people. All of us must unite in helping the Police to capture these murderers. Yesterday we celebrated as Londoners, euphoric that our great city had secured the Olympic Games. Today we stand aghast as we witness a series of brutal attacks upon our capital city. We were together in our celebration; we must remain together in our time of crisis,” said Sir Iqbal Sacranie, Secretary General of the Muslim Council of Britain.
"We must and will be united in common determination that terror cannot succeed. It is now the duty of all us Britons to be vigilant and actively support efforts to bring those responsible to justice", he added.
The MCB, with the Bishop of London Rt Hon Richard Chartres, Chair of the CRE Trevor Phillips and other faith and civil society leaders have affirmed their mutual solidarity and support.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Yawn here we go with the "chav" remarks.
I already said "hats off to them" a few pages back when I edited my own post after finding out that the MCB had condemned the bombings.
Unfortunatly that statement is probably all they will do when they could and should do so much more.
<!--QuoteBegin-RobbyC+Jul 7 2005, 06:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RobbyC @ Jul 7 2005, 06:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If someone can quote something I've said as racist or a criminal act, please do...
(I probably have and your going to embarass me, lol, but I can't be bothered to look through my posts) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->...and V, Muslim's aren't a minority, there's more of em than white people mate i'm tellin ya!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Like I said in the Olympics in London 2012 thread, illegal **** immigrants. We don't know who's in this country, let alone the politicans.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
From the Olympics thread : <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->First of all we have a big problem already, and secondly it will attract more and more of em to work in the olympics.....then when they are done....they stay here and don't **** off back to their own countries.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-RobbyC+Jul 7 2005, 12:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (RobbyC @ Jul 7 2005, 12:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If someone can quote something I've said as racist or a criminal act, please do...
(I probably have and your going to embarass me, lol, but I can't be bothered to look through my posts) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Hey hey I'm not even saying you did. I just don't want you to have the wrong attitude about this. I think we can all agree that we hate the guys responsible for this. But don't hate the innocents man. It's not their fault.
::EDIT:: V-man dude, I hate illegal immigrants too man, but that's because my parents are legal ones and actually went through all the **** to come to the U.S. even though they made it super hard back then.
So in some sense I understand where you come from, but you know some bastards are going to mess with guys who have nothing to do with it. As far as the whole Muslim Community not doing enough, I'm pretty sure they can do more yeah but I thought I remember hearing about them being the cause of some of the info on various terrorists in the U.S.
<!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> All I can say is wow..
<!--QuoteBegin-V MAN+Jul 7 2005, 06:15 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (V MAN @ Jul 7 2005, 06:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Not from my perspective <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <a href='http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=racism' target='_blank'>Dictionary.com definition of racism</a>
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others. <b>2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<a href='http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=discrimination' target='_blank'>Dictionary.com definition of discrimination</a>
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 1. The act of discriminating. 2. The ability or power to see or make fine distinctions; discernment. <b>3. Treatment or consideration based on class or category rather than individual merit; partiality or prejudice: racial discrimination; discrimination against foreigners.</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<a href='http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=prejudice' target='_blank'>Dictionary.com definition of prejudice</a>
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <b> 1. An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts. 2. A preconceived preference or idea. 2. The act or state of holding unreasonable preconceived judgments or convictions.</b> See Synonyms at predilection. <b> 3. Irrational suspicion or hatred of a particular group, race, or religion.</b> 4. Detriment or injury caused to a person by the preconceived, unfavorable conviction of another or others.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Kouji_SanSr. Hινε UÏкεεÏεг - EUPT DeputyThe NetherlandsJoin Date: 2003-05-13Member: 16271Members, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue
So how did this become a racial/religious debate...
I mean the algaida (or however you write it) has claimed this terroristic attack. Now they may be muslim and all, but they conviniately are VERY anonymous.
Thing which can be said about these algaida (again spelling, but I don't care): <b>1.</b> They hide behind this" I am muslim thing" and the infidels must die (that being us and the none radical muslims). This will make the law obiding citizen, which happens to be a muslim look bad. <b>2.</b> They are anonymous. Sure they have a name, but do they have an adress where our armies can ring the doorbell? No they don't. Now you could say they don't have the manpower or armie strength to counter our armies. That fact doesn't make them heroic people. THEY ALWAYS ATTACK INNOCENT CIVILIANS!!! Can you say cowardly acts of a faceless and hidden organisation?
But blaiming this on a religion or a race is just stupid. These terrorists live inside a made up fantasy world in which they must protect their way of life at all cost. And to top that they think they are oh so heroic... WELL NEWSFLASH YOU FKKING MORONS IF YOU THINK THIS. COWARDS!!!
<b>Note:</b> I appologize if I used some harsh language, but this just pisses me of in such a way I just can't describe it <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
It's not racist talking about Muslim's because Muslim's aren't a race? You get White Muslim's, alot of converts. Black Christians. The lot!
It's prejudice then? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> To quote yourself:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->...and V, Muslim's aren't a minority, there's more of em than white people mate i'm tellin ya!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And now you're admitting that there are white Muslims? Wow!
GrendelAll that is fear...Join Date: 2002-07-19Member: 970Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, NS2 Playtester
I appreciate that emotions are running high, but this thread is going nowhere positive.
Those facing temp or permanent bans will be contacted shortly, but in the meantime I would remind users of these boards that advocating violence towards religious minorities is not welcome here.
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These are radicals we're talking about, not everday regular Muslims. You can't generalize.
So if you can avoid it, don't talk about burning down random Mosques and stabbing random Muslims.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The Muslim Council of Britain utterly condemns today's indiscriminate acts of terror in London. These evil deeds makes victims of us all. It is our humanity that must bring us shoulder to shoulder to condemn, to oppose and to overcome those who would spread fear, hatred and death.
Our sympathies and our prayers are with the victims, their families and friends. We extend our support and gratitude to the emergency services, the Police and all the frontline services charged with our collective security.
"The evil people who planned and carried out these series of explosions in London this morning want to demoralise us as a nation and divide us as a people. All of us must unite in helping the Police to capture these murderers. Yesterday we celebrated as Londoners, euphoric that our great city had secured the Olympic Games. Today we stand aghast as we witness a series of brutal attacks upon our capital city. We were together in our celebration; we must remain together in our time of crisis,” said Sir Iqbal Sacranie, Secretary General of the Muslim Council of Britain.
"We must and will be united in common determination that terror cannot succeed. It is now the duty of all us Britons to be vigilant and actively support efforts to bring those responsible to justice", he added.
The MCB, with the Bishop of London Rt Hon Richard Chartres, Chair of the CRE Trevor Phillips and other faith and civil society leaders have affirmed their mutual solidarity and support.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yawn here we go with the "chav" remarks.
I already said "hats off to them" a few pages back when I edited my own post after finding out that the MCB had condemned the bombings.
Unfortunatly that statement is probably all they will do when they could and should do so much more.
(I probably have and your going to embarass me, lol, but I can't be bothered to look through my posts) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->...and V, Muslim's aren't a minority, there's more of em than white people mate i'm tellin ya!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Like I said in the Olympics in London 2012 thread, illegal **** immigrants. We don't know who's in this country, let alone the politicans.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
From the Olympics thread :
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->First of all we have a big problem already, and secondly it will attract more and more of em to work in the olympics.....then when they are done....they stay here and don't **** off back to their own countries.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And that's not racist?
Last time I checked we was all humans so how can you be racist to your own race?
It's all just prejudice and discrimination really
(I probably have and your going to embarass me, lol, but I can't be bothered to look through my posts) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hey hey I'm not even saying you did. I just don't want you to have the wrong attitude about this. I think we can all agree that we hate the guys responsible for this. But don't hate the innocents man. It's not their fault.
::EDIT::
V-man dude, I hate illegal immigrants too man, but that's because my parents are legal ones and actually went through all the **** to come to the U.S. even though they made it super hard back then.
So in some sense I understand where you come from, but you know some bastards are going to mess with guys who have nothing to do with it. As far as the whole Muslim Community not doing enough, I'm pretty sure they can do more yeah but I thought I remember hearing about them being the cause of some of the info on various terrorists in the U.S.
<a href='http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=racism' target='_blank'>Dictionary.com definition of racism</a>
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
<b>2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<a href='http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=discrimination' target='_blank'>Dictionary.com definition of discrimination</a>
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 1. The act of discriminating.
2. The ability or power to see or make fine distinctions; discernment.
<b>3. Treatment or consideration based on class or category rather than individual merit; partiality or prejudice: racial discrimination; discrimination against foreigners.</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<a href='http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=prejudice' target='_blank'>Dictionary.com definition of prejudice</a>
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <b> 1. An adverse judgment or opinion formed beforehand or without knowledge or examination of the facts.
2. A preconceived preference or idea.
2. The act or state of holding unreasonable preconceived judgments or convictions.</b> See Synonyms at predilection.
<b> 3. Irrational suspicion or hatred of a particular group, race, or religion.</b>
4. Detriment or injury caused to a person by the preconceived, unfavorable conviction of another or others.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Does Spacer live in London?
I mean the algaida (or however you write it) has claimed this terroristic attack. Now they may be muslim and all, but they conviniately are VERY anonymous.
Thing which can be said about these algaida (again spelling, but I don't care):
<b>1.</b>
They hide behind this" I am muslim thing" and the infidels must die (that being us and the none radical muslims). This will make the law obiding citizen, which happens to be a muslim look bad.
<b>2.</b>
They are anonymous. Sure they have a name, but do they have an adress where our armies can ring the doorbell? No they don't. Now you could say they don't have the manpower or armie strength to counter our armies. That fact doesn't make them heroic people. THEY ALWAYS ATTACK INNOCENT CIVILIANS!!!
Can you say cowardly acts of a faceless and hidden organisation?
But blaiming this on a religion or a race is just stupid. These terrorists live inside a made up fantasy world in which they must protect their way of life at all cost. And to top that they think they are oh so heroic... WELL NEWSFLASH YOU FKKING MORONS IF YOU THINK THIS. COWARDS!!!
<b>Note:</b>
I appologize if I used some harsh language, but this just pisses me of in such a way I just can't describe it <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Does Spacer live in London? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nah he lives (kind of) near me.
It's not racist talking about Muslim's because Muslim's aren't a race? You get White Muslim's, alot of converts. Black Christians. The lot!
It's prejudice then? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
To quote yourself:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->...and V, Muslim's aren't a minority, there's more of em than white people mate i'm tellin ya!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And now you're admitting that there are white Muslims? Wow!
Those facing temp or permanent bans will be contacted shortly, but in the meantime I would remind users of these boards that advocating violence towards religious minorities is not welcome here.