ive only met 1 person that actualy took their life and hell i didnt even meet the guy i just knew him on a online forum
if you guys post on the TS boards then you most likely know about JAM
in my opinion suicide should not be joked about at all and if you have any thought that someone you know might take their own life get them help as soon as possible I personaly wouldnt be able to live with myself if i didnt help some one and they ended up dying
<!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Jun 30 2005, 04:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Jun 30 2005, 04:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'd rather die than be locked up in a psyche ward <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I think it'd be kinda fun. I mean, I get to survive on some poor chumps cash, get my own room and board and food. And if I start taking a dump in my pants and start foaming at the mouth, I can get access to some good medicinal help if you know what I mean.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Cold NiTe+Jun 30 2005, 04:43 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold NiTe @ Jun 30 2005, 04:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Jun 30 2005, 04:37 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Jun 30 2005, 04:37 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I'd rather die than be locked up in a psyche ward <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I think it'd be kinda fun. I mean, I get to survive on some poor chumps cash, get my own room and board and food. And if I start taking a dump in my pants and start foaming at the mouth, I can get access to some good medicinal help if you know what I mean. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> A good friend of mine was in a psyche ward for a few weeks. From what I can tell, when everyone around you is crazy, and all the doctors and assistants treat you like you are crazy, you really start to become crazy.
To be honest... suicide has always kinda baffled me :o I think I only ever even came close to anything that might be considered 'suicide' once and it was entirely out of spite and anger. I was really really young at the time but I already knew how much a death could hurt those around it so I climbed my window and stared, furious, down before thinking "bleh... waste of time" and going off to rant around my room a bit :p
If I ever feel down, no matter how much, death never ever really feels like an option. It's nothing to do with fear or 'omg I have a purpose to fulfil!!!' (I don't believe we have one :3 ) rather that I think death is equally, if not more, pointless than life. At least with life we know we can enjoy it, with death you might cease to exist and limbo doesn't sound much fun :p
Don't get me wrong; I'm actually a rather happy lil soul. I just don't believe in things <b>needing</b> a point and the ideal of not having a path layed out or any expectations of me just makes me smile even more ^^
I often wondered, <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=95385&hl=' target='_blank'>If you commit suicide, will you go to heaven?</a> <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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<!--QuoteBegin-Align+Jun 30 2005, 11:26 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Align @ Jun 30 2005, 11:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Not everyone get's suicidal tho. In fact I guess rather few do, since... well, otherwise most people would die pretty early :/ <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I dono, I seem to remember statistics saying the most people do CONCIDER suicide (not actualy come anywhere near attempting)
<!--QuoteBegin-BulletHead+Jun 30 2005, 02:47 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BulletHead @ Jun 30 2005, 02:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Oh, i'm not sayign they're cold. but are you with your friends 24/7? God, I hope not 0o' The only person you are with 24/7 is you and your god/spiritu/allah/buddha/whateveryouwannacallhimherit.
And I'm fine now... I'm off my ADHD meds, learning to control my temper myself <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I pretty much am with friends almost 24/7. On an average no-plan-tommorow day, I have atleast two people crash over.
I spent one day in a psyche ward... lemme tell you that was the worst damn day of my life. Those that aren't mentally retarded are mentally ill. Or they just can't move. Nobody is normal, and when you spend a day there, knowing you don't belong there, all you have to hold onto is the hope you can get out. I managed to talk my way out, proving I was sane thru a use of complex physche theory and logic. But a psyche ward is NOT fun... it's prison for psychoes... that's all...
I was thankful that I never fully went through with my attempt, the life I have experienced at University is so much better than that at high school.
Today, I have a harsh, perhaps cold opinion on suicide. I regard it as a cowardly, snivelling, pathetic act and the ultimate form of selfishness. I lost two good friends to suicide, people who I cared about deeply and that one day, just disappeared without any warning. I never forgave them and in a time that I was most vulnerable, it was a trigger for my own attempt at one point. Something made me change my mind that night, but whatever it was I am thankful for it.
I've also known many people who have tried, with various degrees of 'failure' to kill themselves. I have even known a good friend who, in their self-hatred to destroy themsevles decided to lay the blame with everyone else, including me.
There is always another option, someone just has to open their damn eyes to see it.
I observed the aftermath of a fellow soldier attempting suicide in basic training, back when trainees had no rights and before anyone listened to the ACLU. The drill sergeants knew this young man was weak, and rode him all the harder for it.
Fortunately we caught Alan in time, as he had hidden in a latrine stall and slit both his wrists. He finally got what he wanted, a (dishonorable) discharge from the Army.
<!--QuoteBegin-Cold NiTe+Jun 30 2005, 01:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold NiTe @ Jun 30 2005, 01:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Whoa whoa, how do you talk your way out and at what age did you do this? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I managed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that I was NOT insane, nor unstable. I was 15 at the time *shudders* it's only been two years... two long... arduous years...
Course... the fact that my dad was on a warpath and about to KO the doctor if he DIDN'T let me out may have had some say in it...
<!--QuoteBegin-BulletHead+Jun 30 2005, 12:28 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BulletHead @ Jun 30 2005, 12:28 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Cold NiTe+Jun 30 2005, 01:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cold NiTe @ Jun 30 2005, 01:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Whoa whoa, how do you talk your way out and at what age did you do this? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I managed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that I was NOT insane, nor unstable. I was 15 at the time *shudders* it's only been two years... two long... arduous years...
Course... the fact that my dad was on a warpath and about to KO the doctor if he DIDN'T let me out may have had some say in it... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I take it the cops put you in there or something then? =x Still what'd you say to get you out ;p
People keep asking me if I cut myself because I always wear wristbands. It's... A BIT retarded. Once I had one of my friends phone me up and tell me they'd cut their wrists and took an overdose during the middle of a lan party... which kinda spoiled it.
I was in there after I tried to commit suicide for the third time... my shrink put me there <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> *shrugs*
And like I said, I used my undeniable powers of uber logic to get out <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> That and my dad was, as I said, **** XD
I dunno, I have a very pragmatic approach to suicide: If there's really no other option, I'll do it. But when is THAT ever going to happen? I'm afraid to die young, and I see no reason to die before my time comes.
I knew a girl whose mother committed suicide. Drowned herself. I hear it's a "nice" death as far as that goes, but I wouldn't really know. The way she (the girl) spoke about it, I think the family knew. Not exactly when she was going to do it, but that it was going to happen soon. She had cancer, you see. Had about half a year left or so, knew it was only going to go downhill from that point onward, and chose the easy way out. I understand and respect that, and maybe I would have done the same in her situation.
But why commit suicide when you can just continue living? You can grow too attached. Maybe if everything and everyone I knew and loved disappeared - but again, when is THAT going to happen? I don't really know what would have to happen for me to consider suicide.
I think somebody here mentioned that 95% of the people that commit suicide have a mental disorder of some sort. I guess that would be it for me - having a mental disorder. As long as I'm thinking clearly, suicide just doesn't seem like a particularly good option.
I guess that you have to be in so much pain that you just don't think straight anymore; hurting so much that you think it's better all round to just top yourself.
<!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Jun 30 2005, 06:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Jun 30 2005, 06:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah because if someone isnt happy with the way the world works they must have some sort of disease! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> OHNO I AM DISAESED.
When did these forums turn so depressing? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-DragonMech+Jun 30 2005, 08:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DragonMech @ Jun 30 2005, 08:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> When did these forums turn so depressing? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> When somebody posted about Suicide in off topic forums.
<!--QuoteBegin-DragonMech+Jun 30 2005, 11:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DragonMech @ Jun 30 2005, 11:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> When did these forums turn so depressing? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I created the other thread as this one got me thinking, and I didn't want to derail it. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-DragonMech+Jun 30 2005, 10:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DragonMech @ Jun 30 2005, 10:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> When did these forums turn so depressing? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It's just a fad like all our other fads.
<!--QuoteBegin-DeltaSnipe+Jun 30 2005, 01:39 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DeltaSnipe @ Jun 30 2005, 01:39 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Trev man. Video games are alot, but they're not everything. Everyone has rough edges around their lives, you shouldn't be as if it's "You agianst the world" because it isn't.
The world has plenty of awesome people you can get to know. And I gaurentee you can find someone that's not "disposable" if you try. But it all has to start somewhere man. Be a friend a friend would wan't to have, and you'll find it will start doubling back to you.
-Dan <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I've found a way to keep myself progressing through life... I can't imagine how people would find a problem with it. I have a very realistic view of the world... all i see is greedy asshats fighting each other over paper that isn't of any value to me but for some odd reason i have to work to aquire it in order to exist in this society. hatred, betrayal, death, and destruction is abound... when it really isn't even nessesary.
You're an animal... as am i and everything else that moves, eats, and reproduces. You're already dead... you just don't know it yet. I for one am spending the rest of my time left enjoying it the best way I've found, I'd recommend you do the same.
Note: I'm not depressed... I'm actually quite happy with my life. happiness is a state of mind... you're in control of how you feel.
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if you guys post on the TS boards then you most likely know about JAM
in my opinion suicide should not be joked about at all and if you have any thought that someone you know might take their own life get them help as soon as possible I personaly wouldnt be able to live with myself if i didnt help some one and they ended up dying
I think it'd be kinda fun. I mean, I get to survive on some poor chumps cash, get my own room and board and food. And if I start taking a dump in my pants and start foaming at the mouth, I can get access to some good medicinal help if you know what I mean.
I think it'd be kinda fun. I mean, I get to survive on some poor chumps cash, get my own room and board and food. And if I start taking a dump in my pants and start foaming at the mouth, I can get access to some good medicinal help if you know what I mean. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
A good friend of mine was in a psyche ward for a few weeks. From what I can tell, when everyone around you is crazy, and all the doctors and assistants treat you like you are crazy, you really start to become crazy.
none of them very closely, but always people I had classes with, and each time it came as a shock. Almost every time my response was "What? Why?"
Death sucks, it dosn't matter how it comes around. It always sucks, and the response I always have is "why?"
it never does and never will make sense.
and this is coming from the man who has contemplated suicide repeatedly.
never actualy did anytihng, but that is partly b/c my friends would always come and bug me. And partly b/c I knew how much it can hurt other people.
To be honest... suicide has always kinda baffled me :o
I think I only ever even came close to anything that might be considered 'suicide' once and it was entirely out of spite and anger. I was really really young at the time but I already knew how much a death could hurt those around it so I climbed my window and stared, furious, down before thinking "bleh... waste of time" and going off to rant around my room a bit :p
If I ever feel down, no matter how much, death never ever really feels like an option. It's nothing to do with fear or 'omg I have a purpose to fulfil!!!' (I don't believe we have one :3 ) rather that I think death is equally, if not more, pointless than life.
At least with life we know we can enjoy it, with death you might cease to exist and limbo doesn't sound much fun :p
Don't get me wrong; I'm actually a rather happy lil soul. I just don't believe in things <b>needing</b> a point and the ideal of not having a path layed out or any expectations of me just makes me smile even more ^^
I dono, I seem to remember statistics saying the most people do CONCIDER suicide (not actualy come anywhere near attempting)
And I'm fine now... I'm off my ADHD meds, learning to control my temper myself <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I pretty much am with friends almost 24/7. On an average no-plan-tommorow day, I have atleast two people crash over.
Meh
-Dan
Today, I have a harsh, perhaps cold opinion on suicide. I regard it as a cowardly, snivelling, pathetic act and the ultimate form of selfishness. I lost two good friends to suicide, people who I cared about deeply and that one day, just disappeared without any warning. I never forgave them and in a time that I was most vulnerable, it was a trigger for my own attempt at one point. Something made me change my mind that night, but whatever it was I am thankful for it.
I've also known many people who have tried, with various degrees of 'failure' to kill themselves. I have even known a good friend who, in their self-hatred to destroy themsevles decided to lay the blame with everyone else, including me.
There is always another option, someone just has to open their damn eyes to see it.
Fortunately we caught Alan in time, as he had hidden in a latrine stall and slit both his wrists. He finally got what he wanted, a (dishonorable) discharge from the Army.
I managed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that I was NOT insane, nor unstable. I was 15 at the time *shudders* it's only been two years... two long... arduous years...
Course... the fact that my dad was on a warpath and about to KO the doctor if he DIDN'T let me out may have had some say in it...
I managed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that I was NOT insane, nor unstable. I was 15 at the time *shudders* it's only been two years... two long... arduous years...
Course... the fact that my dad was on a warpath and about to KO the doctor if he DIDN'T let me out may have had some say in it... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I take it the cops put you in there or something then? =x Still what'd you say to get you out ;p
Once I had one of my friends phone me up and tell me they'd cut their wrists and took an overdose during the middle of a lan party... which kinda spoiled it.
And like I said, I used my undeniable powers of uber logic to get out <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> That and my dad was, as I said, **** XD
I dunno, I have a very pragmatic approach to suicide: If there's really no other option, I'll do it. But when is THAT ever going to happen? I'm afraid to die young, and I see no reason to die before my time comes.
I knew a girl whose mother committed suicide. Drowned herself. I hear it's a "nice" death as far as that goes, but I wouldn't really know. The way she (the girl) spoke about it, I think the family knew. Not exactly when she was going to do it, but that it was going to happen soon.
She had cancer, you see. Had about half a year left or so, knew it was only going to go downhill from that point onward, and chose the easy way out. I understand and respect that, and maybe I would have done the same in her situation.
But why commit suicide when you can just continue living? You can grow too attached. Maybe if everything and everyone I knew and loved disappeared - but again, when is THAT going to happen? I don't really know what would have to happen for me to consider suicide.
I think somebody here mentioned that 95% of the people that commit suicide have a mental disorder of some sort. I guess that would be it for me - having a mental disorder. As long as I'm thinking clearly, suicide just doesn't seem like a particularly good option.
OHNO I AM DISAESED.
When somebody posted about Suicide in off topic forums.
I created the other thread as this one got me thinking, and I didn't want to derail it. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
It's just a fad like all our other fads.
The world has plenty of awesome people you can get to know. And I gaurentee you can find someone that's not "disposable" if you try. But it all has to start somewhere man. Be a friend a friend would wan't to have, and you'll find it will start doubling back to you.
-Dan <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I've found a way to keep myself progressing through life... I can't imagine how people would find a problem with it. I have a very realistic view of the world... all i see is greedy asshats fighting each other over paper that isn't of any value to me but for some odd reason i have to work to aquire it in order to exist in this society. hatred, betrayal, death, and destruction is abound... when it really isn't even nessesary.
You're an animal... as am i and everything else that moves, eats, and reproduces. You're already dead... you just don't know it yet. I for one am spending the rest of my time left enjoying it the best way I've found, I'd recommend you do the same.
Note: I'm not depressed... I'm actually quite happy with my life. happiness is a state of mind... you're in control of how you feel.