<!--QuoteBegin-Jasp+Jun 22 2005, 03:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jasp @ Jun 22 2005, 03:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Am i the only one that thinks thermal patches are the way to go over thermal paste?
Patches are more simply to apply and dont come with the downsides of thermal paste such as heat buildup if applied to thin/thick. Though they are not quite as well known and harder to get hold of. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> when i put my computer together thats all i used. it came pre-allpied to the heatsink so it was really easy.
Thats the idea, it is really easy and really hard to mess up. Just don't expect overclocking.
I used to have that back when I used a stock heatsink. I bought some Arctic silver 5 and scraped off all the thermal pad remnants then used rubbing alcohol to get the last bit off. A thin layer of that in place of the thermal pad made a -5 degree C difference, after overclocking an additional 100 MHz. (before it finished burn-in)
Good thermal paste owns all, just sometimes can be a pain to install. I even upgraded my stock video cooling by scraping off the pad and putting the paste under there. I didn't have a temp sensor but i got 8 or 10 more MHz out of the GPU immediately. (significant for a low-end stock cooling system on an already overclocked radeon 9600 pro).
But again, no thermal problems and no overclocking, and theres really no reason to take the pad off and replace it. Just please don't prefer it <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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<!--QuoteBegin-cshank4+Jun 23 2005, 06:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (cshank4 @ Jun 23 2005, 06:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Another tip for further stability, Underclock your RAM a little, I heard it's pretty healthy for the sticks. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Total crap
I build pc's for a living, and underclocking ram will only slow your computer any life extension will be so tiny most people wouldn't care. Most moden motherboards now detect the correct speed for everything automatically.
- If the component takes alot of pressure to insert check you have in the right position - Ram normally takes a little more pressure than most other components - The processsor WILL drop into place if it's in the right position, DO NOT use an pressure, also remeber to lock it down. - If the heatsink has no thermal transfer pad add some thermal compound to the center and spead it around. - When attatching the motherboard to the backplate only put screws in holes which have metal rings around the hole. This is for support, any other holes are a no no. - Get all the components in before any cabling - DO NOT use cable select on any IDE devices - Any spare cabels move out the way into spare drive bays
On a side note. If any of you have the "computer browser" service running on a networked pc disable the service, it's a damn network killer.
I built my own rig (which is made up of very expensive parts) using nothing more than the manuals... I was terrified I was going to crack my FX-53 in two when I was installing it, though. I had to put so much pressure on that processor heatsink to get it to stick to the mobo I was practically standing on it. Luckily, force really WAS required. However, if you suck with technology, I'd get someone else to help and make sure you don't screw yourself.
Also, don't install a "home made" water cooling system. It's just not worth it.
<!--QuoteBegin-Cereal KillR+Jun 23 2005, 07:03 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal KillR @ Jun 23 2005, 07:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sync the ram and FSB. That means underclock the faster of the two, or overclock the slower of the two. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Dosen't make sense for a modern board. The FSB is a thing of the past, the HT bus and the memory divider can take care of everything. You could potentially overclock your CPU and underclock your ram, not that normal people would want to do that.....
And don't underclock your ram......u hurt performance, and if it is rated for a speed, its supposed to work at that speed just fine. I've been overclocking my cheap sticks of ram for more than 2 years now, and I haven't incoured any penalties, why would running them below stock speeds help anything? Maybe it would help if you put your computer in a styrofoam box to make it like an oven....
And you could use a homemade air cooling system, get a large house fan, remove side panel, tape on. May be a little noisy, but you only need one fan.
If you have kids or a dog lock them out of the room you are working in because they will TOUCH, SNIFF, PAW, POKE and try to feed choclolate/sticklebricks into the pc then it will be broken.
lol sounds like you've had some personal experience <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-DaJMasta+Jun 23 2005, 07:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DaJMasta @ Jun 23 2005, 07:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> lol sounds like you've had some personal experience <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Not me a friend lol his 3 year old kid chased the dog into the room that he was building the pc in, the dog then trod in the case bending and flattening assorted bits on his brand spanking new mobo <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-esuna+Jun 23 2005, 04:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (esuna @ Jun 23 2005, 04:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> DO NOT: Succumb to sexual urges and masturbate on a 6800 Ultra, causing it to not function. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Is that from personal experience, Esuna?
<!--QuoteBegin-cshank4+Jun 23 2005, 04:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (cshank4 @ Jun 23 2005, 04:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-esuna+Jun 23 2005, 04:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (esuna @ Jun 23 2005, 04:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> DO NOT: Succumb to sexual urges and masturbate on a 6800 Ultra, causing it to not function. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Is that from personal experience, Esuna? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> It can only be.
<!--QuoteBegin-V MAN+Jun 23 2005, 02:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (V MAN @ Jun 23 2005, 02:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-DaJMasta+Jun 23 2005, 07:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DaJMasta @ Jun 23 2005, 07:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> lol sounds like you've had some personal experience <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Not me a friend lol his 3 year old kid chased the dog into the room that he was building the pc in, the dog then trod in the case bending and flattening assorted bits on his brand spanking new mobo <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> If I was your friend, they'd end up having to get a brand spanking new dog.
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Patches are more simply to apply and dont come with the downsides of thermal paste such as heat buildup if applied to thin/thick. Though they are not quite as well known and harder to get hold of. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
when i put my computer together thats all i used. it came pre-allpied to the heatsink so it was really easy.
I used to have that back when I used a stock heatsink. I bought some Arctic silver 5 and scraped off all the thermal pad remnants then used rubbing alcohol to get the last bit off. A thin layer of that in place of the thermal pad made a -5 degree C difference, after overclocking an additional 100 MHz. (before it finished burn-in)
Good thermal paste owns all, just sometimes can be a pain to install. I even upgraded my stock video cooling by scraping off the pad and putting the paste under there. I didn't have a temp sensor but i got 8 or 10 more MHz out of the GPU immediately. (significant for a low-end stock cooling system on an already overclocked radeon 9600 pro).
But again, no thermal problems and no overclocking, and theres really no reason to take the pad off and replace it. Just please don't prefer it <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Total crap
I build pc's for a living, and underclocking ram will only slow your computer any life extension will be so tiny most people wouldn't care. Most moden motherboards now detect the correct speed for everything automatically.
- If the component takes alot of pressure to insert check you have in the right position
- Ram normally takes a little more pressure than most other components
- The processsor WILL drop into place if it's in the right position, DO NOT use an pressure, also remeber to lock it down.
- If the heatsink has no thermal transfer pad add some thermal compound to the center and spead it around.
- When attatching the motherboard to the backplate only put screws in holes which have metal rings around the hole. This is for support, any other holes are a no no.
- Get all the components in before any cabling
- DO NOT use cable select on any IDE devices
- Any spare cabels move out the way into spare drive bays
On a side note. If any of you have the "computer browser" service running on a networked pc disable the service, it's a damn network killer.
However, if you suck with technology, I'd get someone else to help and make sure you don't screw yourself.
Also, don't install a "home made" water cooling system. It's just not worth it.
Hosepipe and garden sprinkler system
Dosen't make sense for a modern board. The FSB is a thing of the past, the HT bus and the memory divider can take care of everything. You could potentially overclock your CPU and underclock your ram, not that normal people would want to do that.....
And don't underclock your ram......u hurt performance, and if it is rated for a speed, its supposed to work at that speed just fine. I've been overclocking my cheap sticks of ram for more than 2 years now, and I haven't incoured any penalties, why would running them below stock speeds help anything? Maybe it would help if you put your computer in a styrofoam box to make it like an oven....
And you could use a homemade air cooling system, get a large house fan, remove side panel, tape on. May be a little noisy, but you only need one fan.
Not me a friend lol his 3 year old kid chased the dog into the room that he was building the pc in, the dog then trod in the case bending and flattening assorted bits on his brand spanking new mobo <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Succumb to sexual urges and masturbate on a 6800 Ultra, causing it to not function.
Succumb to sexual urges and masturbate on a 6800 Ultra, causing it to not function. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Is that from personal experience, Esuna?
Succumb to sexual urges and masturbate on a 6800 Ultra, causing it to not function. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Is that from personal experience, Esuna? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
It can only be.
Not me a friend lol his 3 year old kid chased the dog into the room that he was building the pc in, the dog then trod in the case bending and flattening assorted bits on his brand spanking new mobo <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
If I was your friend, they'd end up having to get a brand spanking new dog.