<!--QuoteBegin-the hole+Jun 11 2005, 09:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (the hole @ Jun 11 2005, 09:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The FAT clan is a lvl 50 combat /menu clan that's going to attempt to play for the competitive community next season, we'll see how long that lasts. ;-) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Dear ignorant turd,
FAT has been involved in NS since 1.04. We've played every update since. We <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>had</span></span> 50 levels /menu on our server for approximately a total of about 4 or 5 months. Our server has been **NS ONLY** for a good month now.
I fail to see how "The FAT clan is a lvl 50 combat /menu clan"
I guess someone is probably just mad that I destroyed him/her/it on the aero server. gg. btw.....lock this piece of crap thread, devs.
Anyone interested in a Metamod plugin developed for competitive combat in a 4v4 format <a href='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=94540' target='_blank'>clicky here</a>. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
CO is fun when you feel like screwing around and not caring. NS is fun when you feel like strategizing and actually putting forth mental effort to play something.
I love both at times. This is why the clan I'm in has 4 different servers, each dedicated to specific styles of NS gameplay. Four flavors for all, can't complain there.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->It's as easy to adapt from playing on a heavily modded server to playing on one that's plain vanilla as it is to adapt from combat to classic, not an issue whatsoever.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well considering many new players who only play CO have no idea about how to play NS, not sure if that was a smart comparison.
I personally can't stand CO, let alone modded CO servers that have lots of simply ridiculous add-ons. CO was going to be an "introductory level" for NS, or that was what the devs said, and it turned out to be a totally different thing and imho something that departs from the nature of NS.
YES I KNOW PEOPLE PLAY CO_, THEY'RE FREE TO DO IT, but to be honest, NS was about teamplay and strategy, and frankly I can't stand CO just because I think it has ruined NS as a whole. Not as much because it stops new players from accessing NS (they're used to CO and don't want to bother learning NS, well, their loss) but because having to simultaneously balance CO and NS at the same time seems too hard of a feat to me.
Frankly I'd be much happy if CO simply kaboomed and was never seen again, but as that's probably not going to happen, at least I'd appreciate if it became a different "mod", and the devs could balance the two separately.
Anyway, death to CO. <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Karunel+Jun 12 2005, 04:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Karunel @ Jun 12 2005, 04:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Frankly I'd be much happy if CO simply kaboomed and was never seen again, but as that's probably not going to happen, at least I'd appreciate if it became a different "mod", and the devs could balance the two separately. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I totally agree. Balancing a game where you can have Celerity, Silence, Adren, leap, and whatever with a game where you can have ONE of those is difficult, and should be done away with.
<!--QuoteBegin-milosis+Jun 12 2005, 05:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (milosis @ Jun 12 2005, 05:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-eliotmat+Jun 12 2005, 07:58 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eliotmat @ Jun 12 2005, 07:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-the hole+Jun 11 2005, 09:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (the hole @ Jun 11 2005, 09:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The FAT clan is a lvl 50 combat /menu clan that's going to attempt to play for the competitive community next season, we'll see how long that lasts. ;-) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Dear ignorant turd,
FAT has been involved in NS since 1.04. We've played every update since. We <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>had</span></span> 50 levels /menu on our server for approximately a total of about 4 or 5 months. Our server has been **NS ONLY** for a good month now.
I fail to see how "The FAT clan is a lvl 50 combat /menu clan"
I guess someone is probably just mad that I destroyed him/her/it on the aero server. gg. btw.....lock this piece of crap thread, devs. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> yeah im sure u were able to destroy prodigy, one of the best shots in North American NS who is in quite possibly the best clan in North America. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> If you slobber on his nuts anymore I'm going to throw up.
<!--QuoteBegin-eliotmat+Jun 13 2005, 12:26 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eliotmat @ Jun 13 2005, 12:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-milosis+Jun 12 2005, 05:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (milosis @ Jun 12 2005, 05:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-eliotmat+Jun 12 2005, 07:58 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eliotmat @ Jun 12 2005, 07:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-the hole+Jun 11 2005, 09:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (the hole @ Jun 11 2005, 09:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The FAT clan is a lvl 50 combat /menu clan that's going to attempt to play for the competitive community next season, we'll see how long that lasts. ;-) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Dear ignorant turd,
FAT has been involved in NS since 1.04. We've played every update since. We <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>had</span></span> 50 levels /menu on our server for approximately a total of about 4 or 5 months. Our server has been **NS ONLY** for a good month now.
I fail to see how "The FAT clan is a lvl 50 combat /menu clan"
I guess someone is probably just mad that I destroyed him/her/it on the aero server. gg. btw.....lock this piece of crap thread, devs. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> yeah im sure u were able to destroy prodigy, one of the best shots in North American NS who is in quite possibly the best clan in North America. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> If you slobber on his nuts anymore I'm going to throw up. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> nevertheless, try not to use cheap remarks like "oh i think youre mad just cause i owned u", especially if you have no idea who the guy youre talking to is. =/
It's useless TOmekki, it's been a LONG LONG time since anyone involved with FAT has distroyed anyone that has anything to do with compeditive NS. If they think otherwize then there's just no point in even talking too them.
aero server #4 was converted into a NS only server. It's not fully NS only right now, we just need to take off siege maps and co maps off the voting system and we are good to go.
<!--QuoteBegin-Karunel+Jun 12 2005, 04:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Karunel @ Jun 12 2005, 04:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> YES I KNOW PEOPLE PLAY CO_, THEY'RE FREE TO DO IT, but to be honest, NS was about teamplay and strategy, and frankly I can't stand CO just because I think it has ruined NS as a whole. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> co_ at a high level still requires teamplay. There's too much in this thread that points the finger at co_ instead of the public for its faults.
Metamods -> Public (admin's) fault Newbie players who don't wanna learn NS and would prefer to play shoot-em-ups -> A 'fault' or player-made decision Losing a game as a result of one guy getting loads of kills and upgrades and dominating -> Bad teamplay and or stacking
Pull your pinger out, go find a good server with players who care about NS and/or playing CO to a high level and have fun. Don't come here whinging because you haven't got the initiative to help yourself out. What are you, masochists?
The only problem for what i see on my side of the world; is that NS population decrease. So find server (kind you describe) becomes a much more difficult exercice. Thought i don't like the private server idea (grouping ppl by skill level, and other idea of that kind) i must say Teamplay isn't on the pub anymore. Like in 2.0 (days of old) even if that was TF lock all the time.
I think it is due to this version who is an alien dedicated one (like the 2.0). This is the second time that alien have the upper hand on a NS version. I exclude upper hand given by upgrade chambers. It's just that alien have it on pubs. Code, netcode, i don't know, they just have it. Each time NS population decreased.
Now talking about TP in CO_ is a really different thing than TP in NS_. I mean... CO_ TP is much more like CS ambush and/or camp. As the life cycle of a unit in co_ isn't really long. It seems there not much more than that. The only real TP action is for a marins to weld a teammate and for gorge to heal. Other Tp i do is to gorge and web... but marins really don't like it when my fades kill them all the time when they just can watch... it's merely emptying a server because they get bored of being webbed.
NS_ TP is from building a base, to cover gorge/builder, weld each other. Recover lost weapon on the field. Do not whinne for a shotgun, don't ask tons of medpack (making commander think you cost too much). Keep track of what happen on the map (communication) and use reactivity to avoid fatal things. Keep an eye on the crucial spots (not double <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> ), and so on...
But the problem stays... Maybe a real tutorail to NS... i mean a tutorial like the half life one itself. "Hello recruit you gonna learn the use of jetpack... blablabla..."
<!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jun 13 2005, 01:26 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jun 13 2005, 01:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's useless TOmekki, it's been a LONG LONG time since anyone involved with FAT has distroyed anyone that has anything to do with compeditive NS. If they think otherwize then there's just no point in even talking too them. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> yay.......another elitist.
<!--QuoteBegin-Crispy+Jun 13 2005, 05:40 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Crispy @ Jun 13 2005, 05:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> co_ at a high level still requires teamplay. There's too much in this thread that points the finger at co_ instead of the public for its faults. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Maybe for the first few mins, after that the team that got a few more levels can all go do whatever they want with a very small chance of loosing.
co was not designed for strategy or excessive teamplay (as in other then follow the guy in front of you). It was designed to get people used to the upgrades and weapons so the transition to NS would be easier.
<!--QuoteBegin-eliotmat+Jun 13 2005, 08:14 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eliotmat @ Jun 13 2005, 08:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jun 13 2005, 01:26 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jun 13 2005, 01:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's useless TOmekki, it's been a LONG LONG time since anyone involved with FAT has distroyed anyone that has anything to do with compeditive NS. If they think otherwize then there's just no point in even talking too them. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> yay.......another elitist. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> do you expect anyone in the clan scene to like you
<!--QuoteBegin-kalimxs+Jun 13 2005, 09:34 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (kalimxs @ Jun 13 2005, 09:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-eliotmat+Jun 13 2005, 08:14 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eliotmat @ Jun 13 2005, 08:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jun 13 2005, 01:26 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jun 13 2005, 01:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's useless TOmekki, it's been a LONG LONG time since anyone involved with FAT has distroyed anyone that has anything to do with compeditive NS. If they think otherwize then there's just no point in even talking too them. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> yay.......another elitist. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> do you expect anyone in the clan scene to like you <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> My only expectation from the competitive scene is team-stacking on the random pub servers they **** up from time to time.
<!--QuoteBegin-eliotmat+Jun 13 2005, 08:14 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eliotmat @ Jun 13 2005, 08:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jun 13 2005, 01:26 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jun 13 2005, 01:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's useless TOmekki, it's been a LONG LONG time since anyone involved with FAT has distroyed anyone that has anything to do with compeditive NS. If they think otherwize then there's just no point in even talking too them. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> yay.......another elitist. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> you know eliteism goes both ways? clanners doing it is just as obnoxious as pubbers
From the very beginning, I never understood why Combat became an NS gametype instead of another MOD. Had they turned combat into a seperate MOD, then the classic NS community would have been saved from alot of unnecesary gripe, and the people who started out with the NS: Combat MOD and were interested in learning the roots would have gotten into NS as well.
<!--QuoteBegin-eliotmat+Jun 13 2005, 08:14 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eliotmat @ Jun 13 2005, 08:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jun 13 2005, 01:26 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jun 13 2005, 01:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's useless TOmekki, it's been a LONG LONG time since anyone involved with FAT has distroyed anyone that has anything to do with compeditive NS. If they think otherwize then there's just no point in even talking too them. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> yay.......another elitist. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> When was the last time FAT beat anyone in cal? There's nothing elitist about me saying the current cal level clan base is WAY WAY above average pub skill base, it's just fact. I can't think of a cal level player that doesn't absolutly massicar pub servers unless other clanned players are on. The skill gap between the lowest level compeditive team and your average pub in NS is WAY larger than any other game I've ever played. It isn't even comparable to CS.
that said, myself and many others like myself applaud people who start up new 'pub clans' that try to get into the competetive scene and learn how to get their skill level up. Its a hard thing to do and it can take a lot of patience, especially when having to put up with some rather obnoxious players. But those who are willing to stick it through and learn intelligently will find much help in the competetive scene, no matter how elitist some of us seem.
I have only read the first few pages, but what I find it dissappointing that Classic servers are very hard to start up unless a solid, very dedicated community already exists for a server.
The only way to get a decent game of classic is to join a clan and scrim. Which isnt always easy as your members aren't always available.
I used to play on a few decent UK servers, got very popular on one server and loved classic NS, until the admins decieded to installed all these server mods to make the server popular with new plays, soon we saw a massive influx and constant people joining who had never played ns before. I didnt mind, i was willing to teach many of them the fun of NS, until one starts a vote for a CO map because they couldnt "be arsed" to learn.
I dont play ns any more. havent touched it for a year.
<!--QuoteBegin-Scribbles+Jun 13 2005, 09:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Scribbles @ Jun 13 2005, 09:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Had they turned combat into a seperate MOD, then the classic NS community would have been saved from alot of unnecesary gripe, and the people who started out with the NS: Combat MOD and were interested in learning the roots would have gotten into NS as well. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> not really.....
everyone who started out in combat would have just left.
<!--QuoteBegin-SentrySteve+Jun 13 2005, 10:33 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SentrySteve @ Jun 13 2005, 10:33 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Scribbles+Jun 13 2005, 09:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Scribbles @ Jun 13 2005, 09:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Had they turned combat into a seperate MOD, then the classic NS community would have been saved from alot of unnecesary gripe, and the people who started out with the NS: Combat MOD and were interested in learning the roots would have gotten into NS as well. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> not really.....
everyone who started out in combat would have just left. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Considering the overall number of players for NS + CO isn't much higher than the number of players there were when it was just NS, I'm goning to once again say that new players coming into this game will play whatever is available.
<!--QuoteBegin-eliotmat+Jun 13 2005, 08:14 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (eliotmat @ Jun 13 2005, 08:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jun 13 2005, 01:26 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jun 13 2005, 01:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's useless TOmekki, it's been a LONG LONG time since anyone involved with FAT has distroyed anyone that has anything to do with compeditive NS. If they think otherwize then there's just no point in even talking too them. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> yay.......another elitist. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I don't think you can call someone an elitist with that kind of spelling and grammar
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Dear ignorant turd,
FAT has been involved in NS since 1.04. We've played every update since. We <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>had</span></span> 50 levels /menu on our server for approximately a total of about 4 or 5 months. Our server has been **NS ONLY** for a good month now.
I fail to see how "The FAT clan is a lvl 50 combat /menu clan"
I guess someone is probably just mad that I destroyed him/her/it on the aero server. gg. btw.....lock this piece of crap thread, devs.
Seperate the two!
CO is fun when you feel like screwing around and not caring. NS is fun when you feel like strategizing and actually putting forth mental effort to play something.
I love both at times. This is why the clan I'm in has 4 different servers, each dedicated to specific styles of NS gameplay. Four flavors for all, can't complain there.
Well considering many new players who only play CO have no idea about how to play NS, not sure if that was a smart comparison.
I personally can't stand CO, let alone modded CO servers that have lots of simply ridiculous add-ons. CO was going to be an "introductory level" for NS, or that was what the devs said, and it turned out to be a totally different thing and imho something that departs from the nature of NS.
YES I KNOW PEOPLE PLAY CO_, THEY'RE FREE TO DO IT, but to be honest, NS was about teamplay and strategy, and frankly I can't stand CO just because I think it has ruined NS as a whole. Not as much because it stops new players from accessing NS (they're used to CO and don't want to bother learning NS, well, their loss) but because having to simultaneously balance CO and NS at the same time seems too hard of a feat to me.
Frankly I'd be much happy if CO simply kaboomed and was never seen again, but as that's probably not going to happen, at least I'd appreciate if it became a different "mod", and the devs could balance the two separately.
Anyway, death to CO. <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I totally agree. Balancing a game where you can have Celerity, Silence, Adren, leap, and whatever with a game where you can have ONE of those is difficult, and should be done away with.
Dear ignorant turd,
FAT has been involved in NS since 1.04. We've played every update since. We <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>had</span></span> 50 levels /menu on our server for approximately a total of about 4 or 5 months. Our server has been **NS ONLY** for a good month now.
I fail to see how "The FAT clan is a lvl 50 combat /menu clan"
I guess someone is probably just mad that I destroyed him/her/it on the aero server. gg. btw.....lock this piece of crap thread, devs. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
yeah im sure u were able to destroy prodigy, one of the best shots in North American NS who is in quite possibly the best clan in North America. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
If you slobber on his nuts anymore I'm going to throw up.
Dear ignorant turd,
FAT has been involved in NS since 1.04. We've played every update since. We <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'>had</span></span> 50 levels /menu on our server for approximately a total of about 4 or 5 months. Our server has been **NS ONLY** for a good month now.
I fail to see how "The FAT clan is a lvl 50 combat /menu clan"
I guess someone is probably just mad that I destroyed him/her/it on the aero server. gg. btw.....lock this piece of crap thread, devs. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
yeah im sure u were able to destroy prodigy, one of the best shots in North American NS who is in quite possibly the best clan in North America. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If you slobber on his nuts anymore I'm going to throw up. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
nevertheless, try not to use cheap remarks like "oh i think youre mad just cause i owned u", especially if you have no idea who the guy youre talking to is. =/
*tries not to play WoW and play ns_ )
co_ at a high level still requires teamplay. There's too much in this thread that points the finger at co_ instead of the public for its faults.
Metamods -> Public (admin's) fault
Newbie players who don't wanna learn NS and would prefer to play shoot-em-ups -> A 'fault' or player-made decision
Losing a game as a result of one guy getting loads of kills and upgrades and dominating -> Bad teamplay and or stacking
Pull your pinger out, go find a good server with players who care about NS and/or playing CO to a high level and have fun. Don't come here whinging because you haven't got the initiative to help yourself out. What are you, masochists?
I think it is due to this version who is an alien dedicated one (like the 2.0). This is the second time that alien have the upper hand on a NS version. I exclude upper hand given by upgrade chambers. It's just that alien have it on pubs. Code, netcode, i don't know, they just have it. Each time NS population decreased.
Now talking about TP in CO_ is a really different thing than TP in NS_. I mean... CO_ TP is much more like CS ambush and/or camp. As the life cycle of a unit in co_ isn't really long. It seems there not much more than that. The only real TP action is for a marins to weld a teammate and for gorge to heal. Other Tp i do is to gorge and web... but marins really don't like it when my fades kill them all the time when they just can watch... it's merely emptying a server because they get bored of being webbed.
NS_ TP is from building a base, to cover gorge/builder, weld each other. Recover lost weapon on the field. Do not whinne for a shotgun, don't ask tons of medpack (making commander think you cost too much). Keep track of what happen on the map (communication) and use reactivity to avoid fatal things. Keep an eye on the crucial spots (not double <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> ), and so on...
But the problem stays... Maybe a real tutorail to NS... i mean a tutorial like the half life one itself. "Hello recruit you gonna learn the use of jetpack... blablabla..."
yay.......another elitist.
Maybe for the first few mins, after that the team that got a few more levels can all go do whatever they want with a very small chance of loosing.
co was not designed for strategy or excessive teamplay (as in other then follow the guy in front of you). It was designed to get people used to the upgrades and weapons so the transition to NS would be easier.
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do you expect anyone in the clan scene to like you
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My only expectation from the competitive scene is team-stacking on the random pub servers they **** up from time to time.
*edit* Also whats with people named steve putting a word infront of their name
CrazySteve
SplinterSteve
SentrySteve
and I'm sure a ScubaSteve has been here before.
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you know eliteism goes both ways? clanners doing it is just as obnoxious as pubbers
NS is the war.
CO with 50 levels = fun when I am bored.
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When was the last time FAT beat anyone in cal? There's nothing elitist about me saying the current cal level clan base is WAY WAY above average pub skill base, it's just fact. I can't think of a cal level player that doesn't absolutly massicar pub servers unless other clanned players are on. The skill gap between the lowest level compeditive team and your average pub in NS is WAY larger than any other game I've ever played. It isn't even comparable to CS.
The only way to get a decent game of classic is to join a clan and scrim. Which isnt always easy as your members aren't always available.
I dont play ns any more. havent touched it for a year.
not really.....
everyone who started out in combat would have just left.
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Considering the overall number of players for NS + CO isn't much higher than the number of players there were when it was just NS, I'm goning to once again say that new players coming into this game will play whatever is available.
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I don't think you can call someone an elitist with that kind of spelling and grammar