No, it shouldn't, but I can understand why he ran. Considering the timeframe we're talking about here is less than a day, it's not like he left her to raise the child on her own. Those news he got is some serious s**t, and that he got scared is no surprise.
As for her, I can understand her as well. Being pregnant is (presumably) pretty scary, and the possibility of being forced to raise a child without its father is not making things any better.
But I can never, ever, understand what goes through someones mind when he decides to sleep with, and let me repeat this, his best friend's pregnant girlfriend. Any emotional distress he was under couldn't possibly have been a fraction of what the other two were going through.
Sorry to hear about it BK, and I don't really know what else to say...life sucks <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Honestly, the question of guilt is largely academic. Sure, we can start profiling each contender's psyche and establish that X screwed up more than Y, but in reality, it's not about who's guilty, it's about who makes amends. It's BK's call to decide whether the relation to both individuals is worth that act, and we can only respect the outcome.
<!--QuoteBegin-Nemesis Zero+Jun 8 2005, 05:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Jun 8 2005, 05:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Honestly, the question of guilt is largely academic. Sure, we can start profiling each contender's psyche and establish that X screwed up more than Y, but in reality, it's not about who's guilty, it's about who makes amends. It's BK's call to decide whether the relation to both individuals is worth that act, and we can only respect the outcome. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> True, however the question of guilt is a rather big factor I think about when deciding whether or not to apologize to someone after an arguement, fight, or something else that hurt both of us. I am not a proud individual in the sense that I put myself above others in social interactions, but at the same time I refuse to debase myself before someone if that person is just as or more wrong than I.
I realize this kind of thinking really doesn't work that well in the real world, because no one ever thinks anything is their fault...doesn't change the way I see things.
I still think that the situation is not worth salvaging, because it's not like this will go away. Stuff like this doesn't go away, it'll always be hanging over your heads, and like I said, any arguement those two will have in the future can and will most likely be blamed on BK. Not something I personally would want to stick around for.
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"had relations" hmmm... By the way, i have kept it a secret, what me and a friends girlfriend did while he was on vacation. Do that. It's so much easier on everybody....
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<!--QuoteBegin-V MAN+Jun 8 2005, 01:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (V MAN @ Jun 8 2005, 01:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-moultano+Jun 8 2005, 12:04 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (moultano @ Jun 8 2005, 12:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> How the **** does something like this happen? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Alcohol is usually to blame <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> ...actually that was exactly... but she had it all planned out before it!! <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> IT WASNT MY FAULT!! her girlfriend should have been there... but... she "couldnt make it"... and... Well, iam feeling better now, that i know what of a **** she really is. (shes with a 3. guy now) good luck you ****! (not you guys NS forums, i love you guys in a "hey friends" kind of way)
Err what? How will I incite them to abort? They'll never read this. Can we stick to the topic and discuss abortion somewhere else?
Anyway, that's the spirit BK. If they have decided to blame you for everything, so be it. Probably not much you can do to change that. You're better off leaving them alone for now. Maybe they'll calm down in a few weeks and start thinking rationally again.
Maybe if you...or...no wait maybe...nope...well...r u 100% it's not possible to keep it a secret ? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Steel Troll+Jun 9 2005, 01:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Steel Troll @ Jun 9 2005, 01:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> PLEASE CAN YOU NOT EVEN MENTION ABORTION. LET THEM DECIDE. Grrr
Hope things works out BK. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> A decision involves knowing all the options <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
BadKarma, lets hope your name isn't so appropriate for your later posts. Hope things work out. It's times like these that you find who your friends are and I guess your relationship with them wasn't strong enough.
<!--QuoteBegin-BadKarma+Jun 9 2005, 07:23 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BadKarma @ Jun 9 2005, 07:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> None of my business anymore, to hell with them. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> That's the spirit. Life's complicated enough; no need to entangle oneself in problems you can't help resolve, let alone problems where you'll most likely just turn into a scapegoat.
And it's nice to know I'm not completely crazy, Cyndane.
How's about we suite Cyndane up and tell HER to do the abortion? She seems like a know-it-all. <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> Would she have the guts ?
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As for her, I can understand her as well. Being pregnant is (presumably) pretty scary, and the possibility of being forced to raise a child without its father is not making things any better.
But I can never, ever, understand what goes through someones mind when he decides to sleep with, and let me repeat this, his best friend's pregnant girlfriend. Any emotional distress he was under couldn't possibly have been a fraction of what the other two were going through.
Sorry to hear about it BK, and I don't really know what else to say...life sucks <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
True, however the question of guilt is a rather big factor I think about when deciding whether or not to apologize to someone after an arguement, fight, or something else that hurt both of us. I am not a proud individual in the sense that I put myself above others in social interactions, but at the same time I refuse to debase myself before someone if that person is just as or more wrong than I.
I realize this kind of thinking really doesn't work that well in the real world, because no one ever thinks anything is their fault...doesn't change the way I see things.
I still think that the situation is not worth salvaging, because it's not like this will go away. Stuff like this doesn't go away, it'll always be hanging over your heads, and like I said, any arguement those two will have in the future can and will most likely be blamed on BK. Not something I personally would want to stick around for.
God I'm an optimist today.
hmmm...
By the way, i have kept it a secret, what me and a friends girlfriend did while he was on vacation. Do that. It's so much easier on everybody....
Alcohol is usually to blame <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
...actually that was exactly... but she had it all planned out before it!! <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> IT WASNT MY FAULT!! her girlfriend should have been there... but... she "couldnt make it"... and...
Well, iam feeling better now, that i know what of a **** she really is. (shes with a 3. guy now) good luck you ****! (not you guys NS forums, i love you guys in a "hey friends" kind of way)
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Why? Incitement. thats why.
Hope things works out BK.
Anyway, that's the spirit BK. If they have decided to blame you for everything, so be it. Probably not much you can do to change that. You're better off leaving them alone for now. Maybe they'll calm down in a few weeks and start thinking rationally again.
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Why? Incitement. thats why.
Hope things works out BK. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
A decision involves knowing all the options <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
BadKarma, lets hope your name isn't so appropriate for your later posts. Hope things work out. It's times like these that you find who your friends are and I guess your relationship with them wasn't strong enough.
I also didn't expect to have to read nine pages of it... but there it is.
Basically I would have to say I agree with sky.
Thats where I'm leaving it.
That's the spirit. Life's complicated enough; no need to entangle oneself in problems you can't help resolve, let alone problems where you'll most likely just turn into a scapegoat.
And it's nice to know I'm not completely crazy, Cyndane.
I agree with you too.
(Just kidding, just kidding...)
*prepares a nuke and an orbit capable ship*
"All you pro-surpression can go away to an island an be surpressed"
How's about we suite Cyndane up and tell HER to do the abortion?
She seems like a know-it-all. <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Would she have the guts ?