20 Ly Long Loop Found In Space
<div class="IPBDescription">double yeh tee eff!</div> <a href='http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4423975.stm' target='_blank'>clicky</a>
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And the team that found it believes the vast, bizarre structure could be some form of cosmic particle accelerator.
The loop may produce sub-atomic particles with a thousand times more energy than those in man-made accelerators.
Details were presented at the National Astronomy Meeting in Birmingham.
The loop was seen using the European space telescope XMM-Newton to study it in X-ray wavelengths.
The galactic centre can only be observed at certain wavelengths - such as X-rays - because large amounts of dust lie in our line of sight, blocking out optical light.
"The X-ray spectrum of the loop is extraordinary," said Dr Masaaki Sakano of the University of Leicester.
Most diffuse X-ray sources in the Universe have a characteristic temperature because they represent the residual radiation from an event, such as a supernova.
"The loop has no characteristic temperature, so there is probably some ongoing process in there - that is our interpretation," Dr Sakano told the BBC News website.
"There are large amounts of high energy particles, so we interpret that they are being accelerated at the moment."
If this is so, the loop could be generating high-energy particles with an energy of up to one thousand trillion electron volts.
Particles such as these have been detected previously in supernova remnants and pulsar nebulae.
But they have never been detected in star-forming regions of the Universe.
The researchers saw the loop when looking at the Arches Cluster, a star-forming region close to the Milky Way's centre.
But it is not known whether the loop structure is physically associated with the Arches Cluster or just happens to be in the same line of sight.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I, for one, welcome our new mind boggling large particle accelerating masters!
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And the team that found it believes the vast, bizarre structure could be some form of cosmic particle accelerator.
The loop may produce sub-atomic particles with a thousand times more energy than those in man-made accelerators.
Details were presented at the National Astronomy Meeting in Birmingham.
The loop was seen using the European space telescope XMM-Newton to study it in X-ray wavelengths.
The galactic centre can only be observed at certain wavelengths - such as X-rays - because large amounts of dust lie in our line of sight, blocking out optical light.
"The X-ray spectrum of the loop is extraordinary," said Dr Masaaki Sakano of the University of Leicester.
Most diffuse X-ray sources in the Universe have a characteristic temperature because they represent the residual radiation from an event, such as a supernova.
"The loop has no characteristic temperature, so there is probably some ongoing process in there - that is our interpretation," Dr Sakano told the BBC News website.
"There are large amounts of high energy particles, so we interpret that they are being accelerated at the moment."
If this is so, the loop could be generating high-energy particles with an energy of up to one thousand trillion electron volts.
Particles such as these have been detected previously in supernova remnants and pulsar nebulae.
But they have never been detected in star-forming regions of the Universe.
The researchers saw the loop when looking at the Arches Cluster, a star-forming region close to the Milky Way's centre.
But it is not known whether the loop structure is physically associated with the Arches Cluster or just happens to be in the same line of sight.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I, for one, welcome our new mind boggling large particle accelerating masters!
Comments
One of the ideas came up is that maybe a race of aliens made it.
<a href='http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3897989.stm' target='_blank'>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3897989.stm</a>
"<span style='color:white'>Nanites</span>"
I feel dirty...
**EDIT** To liven an overused saying up I found us a pictar!
<img src='http://www.decipher.com/startrek/cardlists/basic/images/nanites.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
<a href='http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3897989.stm' target='_blank'>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3897989.stm</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, Yes! As much as I know no one ever saw a blackhole. So to this day they are still hypothetic.
And that article is almost a year old.
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But how can you see something that eats light?
And that article is almost a year old. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But how can you see something that eats light? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You looks for the tell-tale signs of particle annihilation around it. And you can look for the place where there should be stars, but there aren't.
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But how can you see something that eats light? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You looks for the tell-tale signs of particle annihilation around it. And you can look for the place where there should be stars, but there aren't. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Aren't they supposed to have some sort of "halo" of particles around themselves that you can use to identify them? Damn I remember reading that <i>somewhere</i>.
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or...
maybe its what caused US to mutate FROM Kahraa.
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Da da Daaaa~!
Wow, I used to play that game.
A black hole, when active, devours up raw materials aroud it and, at vERY SPECIFIC TIME INTERVALS, stops "feeding" to produce a MASSIVE burst in the X, Gamma, and Neutrino range emmisions... thus allowing a black hole's "point horizon" to be identified- it's radius can be determined by finding where the circling vortex of superheated plasmatic matter ends and the darkness begins, thus showing the "event horizon"
Simple... really... it isn't rocket science
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oh wait... it is... heh... (^-^);
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Yeah but what is the given name of that stuff? I was kinda hoping to prod a link out of you.
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Wow, I used to respect you.
A pretty freaking huge one albeit.
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Correction: We haven't seen blackholes (that is, quantum singularities), we have seen things that act like blackholes should act if they do indeed exist. This, however, does not nessesarily mean that they really are blackholes, as other cosmic phenomina may be sufficient to explain them.
And that article is almost a year old. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Correction: We haven't seen blackholes (that is, quantum singularities), we have seen things that act like blackholes should act if they do indeed exist. This, however, does not nessesarily mean that they really are blackholes, as other cosmic phenomina may be sufficient to explain them. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Quantum Singularities are NOT black holes
They are black pinpricks... TINY black holes
I forget the official name for Black Holes... it's bigger than Singularity... I want to say Quantum Anomoly.... but that doesn't ring like I konw it does *shrug*
well holy hell. thats a lot of volts.
Schwarzchild something-or-others.
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Schwarzschild radius?
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Schwarzschild radius? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Definatly not:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The Schwarzschild radius or gravitational radius is a characteristic radius associated with every mass. The term is used in physics and astronomy, especially in the theory of gravitation, general relativity. It was found in 1916 by Karl Schwarzschild and results from his discovery of an exact solution for the gravitational field outside a static, spherically symmetric star (see Schwarzschild metric, which is a solution of the Einstein field equations). The Schwarzschild radius is proportional to the mass. The Sun has a Schwarzschild radius of approximately 3 km, the Earth's being approximately 9 mm.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So Schwarzschild radius is a quality of anything that has mass.
See Wikipedia for more info: <a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schwarzschild_radius' target='_blank'>Wikipedia Entry: Schwarzschild radius</a>
To my knowledge, nothing has been named for Schwarzschild that does not ahve to do with blackholes.
Also, after some research, it would appear that singularities are predicted to be at the center of anything we call a blackhole. Are you perhaps being confused by the term "Event Horizon"? Which is a spheroid whos edges are the point of no return for anything entering a blackhole?
How can you guys not come to the conclusion that the loop is an artificial formation? It had to have been created by aliens. It's got dashed lines and text! It's obvious that they know English and oriented it towards us, eons ago, so that we would see it today and figure out that aliens exist. In fact, they're probably beaming propaganda into our heads as we speak. I'm making a tinfoil hat and stocking up on aluminum. Who's with me?