Pub Games Got Me Down!

darkthrone

I am really hating pub games recently...SO MANY NOOBS! Is there any alternative way to play ns besides the boring old pub games??

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Router_Box

<a href='http://www.caleague.com/?division=nso' target='_blank'>http://www.caleague.com/?division=nso</a>

#findnsscrim, #nspickup on gamesurge irc

Find, tryout for and join a competitive team.

Scrap

mhm....well play on good servers then.
I have 5 servers in my fav. and only play on these because i know they got a strong community and good comms and havent seen any newbies(NSPLAYERS, give me shotty! people) on these servers.

Steel_Troll

What are these five servers, im finding the same problems as darkthrone... Any body wanan tell me what good servers are out there ( by good i mean a higher level of play)...

2_of_Eight

Keep in mind, <b>do not put down other servers</b>, such as "Aww, [x] place sucks, [y] is better, unless [z] is included..." that's all useless. This is not the place for it.

Here's one that I always play on: <a href='http://www.lunixmonster.org' target='_blank'>The LunixMonster</a>, 69.93.5.186:27015

And be nice to newbies whenever you see them, you were one of them too.

Swiftspear

NSA vets server tends to chase aways nublets... Other then that, pretty much any server you can find with a reg crew you like should be pretty good during active hours (dependent on where the server is located, US servers tend to run active between 7AM PST to 12PM PST)

Servers with resslots enabled will be frustrating to play for the first few months, but in the long run they mean higher reg/pubnub populations, which is usually a good thing if you are looking to avoid the pubnubs. The average skill level of BS_0 servers tends to be higher on then those of BS_1 servers (there are definately exceptions on both sides though), if you are educated enough to understand that scripts != hacks.

The popular/safe choice would be lunixmonster or NSA, but there are really a fair few options if you are willing to search around a little.

Router_Box

Tactical Gamer for the win. The Cheating-Death Required keeps all nubs out.

I wouldn't suggest the vet server unless you have a res slot there.

theclam

On lunixmonster, everyone knows what they are doing and they're mature about dropping chambers/hives instead of fading. It's my favorite place to play when I'm in the mood for classic.

Voogru's server and NSA are good, but they have a different type of community.

Rushakra

If you were awesome enough, you'd win regardless of the idiots on your team. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
If you think that's insane and impossible, obviously you need to get more awesome.

MrGunner

If you were planning on getting into competetive play then pubbing especially on places like Lunixmonster may not be as productive as pugging or starting your own clan and practicing. While it is a good public server with moderators keeping out the "unwelcome" parts of the community, the server rules will not help you excel at competetive play. Play pugs is excellent practice and gets you used to 6v6 play with a team that has some experience, and will get you used to strats and how to deal with early fades or spawn camping marines.

There are people on irc.gamesurge.net in #nspickup who would be more then willing to help you out.

2_of_Eight

<!--QuoteBegin-MrGunner+Apr 4 2005, 02:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrGunner @ Apr 4 2005, 02:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you were planning on getting into competetive play then pubbing especially on places like Lunixmonster may not be as productive as pugging or starting your own clan and practicing. While it is a good public server with moderators keeping out the "unwelcome" parts of the community, the server rules will not help you excel at competetive play. Play pugs is excellent practice and gets you used to 6v6 play with a team that has some experience, and will get you used to strats and how to deal with early fades or spawn camping marines.

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Well, the thing is, that <b>most</b> of the NS community is not playing competitevly. So pugs aren't that big a requirement to have fun, in my opinion.
Although they're good, too. I'm just saying that they're not the only way to have fun in the game.

Swiftspear

<!--QuoteBegin-MrGunner+Apr 4 2005, 01:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrGunner @ Apr 4 2005, 01:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you were planning on getting into competetive play then pubbing especially on places like Lunixmonster may not be as productive as pugging or starting your own clan and practicing. While it is a good public server with moderators keeping out the "unwelcome" parts of the community, the server rules will not help you excel at competetive play. Play pugs is excellent practice and gets you used to 6v6 play with a team that has some experience, and will get you used to strats and how to deal with early fades or spawn camping marines.

There are people on irc.gamesurge.net in #nspickup who would be more then willing to help you out. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Agreed. Compeditve play is a whole different ball game. You want to pug and scrim as much as possible if you are planning on playing that level, chewing through 4-5 rines or row killing 3 skulks may be fun in the pubs, but killing nubs doesn't do **** for you when you try to transfer those skill against someone who can acctually shoot/bhop/hide properly.

If I fade in your average pub CO I can get up around 50:4 kill scores no problem. Put me in classic mode with one or two delta level players and I am more likely to die as a fade then I am to hit a swipe. It is ALOT different when players aren't wasting 80% of thier ammo into the cieling.

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Nope. You would be utterly shocked how much teamwork NS still requires to gaurentee a win. As long as your one skilled player isn't capable of single handedly taking down the opponents hive/main base they can't gaurentee a win unless thier team is on board. I recently one a 50 minute long game as alien playing against some absolutly incrediblely skilled marines. Half the rine team however was reasonably nub, and dispite thier best efforts and a rine K:D of 160:45 the marine team was unable to keep enough res and prevent us from getting enough res to win the game. Clan teams wouldn't win a game against most pub teams if they didn't know what they were doing at the beggining of every game and stick to a flexable and efficiant plan. Skill just doesn't stack up quite that much in NS unless it is well backed with knowledge and organization.

eliotmat

69.93.41.35:27015 [FAT]'s Accidental Bowel Movement v3.02

I hear this server and its community rock.

Church

Try the NSA vet server. Lots of clanners have reserved slots though so you might be gets sometimes, but iathe level of play is definitely the highest of any pub I've been to.

the only problem there is that, with no pregame time, more often than not there is no comm for trhe first 30 seconds or so :-p which is very bad against a good alien team.

I suggest that mp_tournymode be set to 1 there so there CAN be pregame time to set up strats and decide who does what. Everybody on that server is used to mp_tourny 1 anyways.