-5 page thread -people suggesting ideas which rouses people's interests -didn't actually USE any of the ideas, so perhaps it was just a big ploy?
i could just say i'm making a new server, have the name i'm gonna use already, and just trick people into thinking that i actually want input for their name, when in fact i dont really give a damn. then when the thread gets big and juicy, say that you didn't like any of the idea's and you made one of your own. then announce the new name. people will be interested in what the new name was, get interest about the server and join it.
.........atleast that's what i would have done..........
<!--QuoteBegin-Xeno+Mar 12 2005, 07:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Xeno @ Mar 12 2005, 07:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->isn't this like a big advertisement? lets see here. - 5 page thread <span style='color:red'>(in my browser it is two pages though)</span> - people suggesting ideas which rouses people's interests - didn't actually USE any of the ideas, so perhaps it was just a big ploy?
i could just say i'm making a new server, have the name i'm gonna use already, and just trick people into thinking that i actually want input for their name, when in fact i dont really give a damn. then when the thread gets big and juicy, say that you didn't like any of the idea's and you made one of your own. then announce the new name. people will be interested in what the new name was, get interest about the server and join it.
.........atleast that's what i would have done..........<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well I was thinking more or less the same thing as you mention. And I don't think it is wrong, so I prefered to focus on the input. If the forum admins think it was wrong, they would have locked this thread (as to my knowledge they don't want you to advertise overhere <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> ). You can allways report this thread, but it won't matter that much cuz they already got a name for their server. If only they are fast enough to announce it overhere ^^.
I think it is good for the community that new servers want to give ns a try and make themselfs known to the world. Being a succesfull server amongst other succesfull servers makes the community grow.
<!--QuoteBegin-Xeno+Mar 12 2005, 10:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Xeno @ Mar 12 2005, 10:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->isn't this like a big advertisement?
lets see here.
-5 page thread -people suggesting ideas which rouses people's interests -didn't actually USE any of the ideas, so perhaps it was just a big ploy?
i could just say i'm making a new server, have the name i'm gonna use already, and just trick people into thinking that i actually want input for their name, when in fact i dont really give a damn. then when the thread gets big and juicy, say that you didn't like any of the idea's and you made one of your own. then announce the new name. people will be interested in what the new name was, get interest about the server and join it.
.........atleast that's what i would have done..........<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I feel so violated... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Xeno+Mar 12 2005, 06:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Xeno @ Mar 12 2005, 06:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> isn't this like a big advertisement?
lets see here.
-5 page thread -people suggesting ideas which rouses people's interests -didn't actually USE any of the ideas, so perhaps it was just a big ploy?
i could just say i'm making a new server, have the name i'm gonna use already, and just trick people into thinking that i actually want input for their name, when in fact i dont really give a damn. then when the thread gets big and juicy, say that you didn't like any of the idea's and you made one of your own. then announce the new name. people will be interested in what the new name was, get interest about the server and join it.
.........atleast that's what i would have done.......... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I think your just saying all that because wer'e going to be competing with you...
But i dont really wanna be against you or anything, i dont hate you...
Ill tell you what, I wish you well, and all i have to say is that what you said was not the case at all. I really dont want to argue with you, i actually want to act like a mature and responsible admin for a change...
In response to the statement.... If we had a name already we would have already started a community and everything; However, we dont have a website, no forums, no stats, because was (and still is) all on hold because of the name...
The only reason we haven't announced the name yet is because it hasnt been registered yet, so if we disclose the name someone might register it. Besides, if this was truly all a ploy wouldn't it have been smarter to milk the cow longer? Why announce that we found a name when we can get even more pages in the thread?
If you would really like to have detailed explanations on why certain suggestions were not used, please ask them... but please check to see if the suggestion has been taken (registered) first... I'd be glad to answer them.
The most rock-solid proof i can provide against Xeno's argument is that I haven't actually posted the Server I.P. yet, which nullifies the argument that it was purely for advertisement... because i am not advertising anything =)
BTW, FYI: I was not the one that came up with the name, it was one of the admins (we had a brainstorming session). But theres still small problems with the name, for example, the name is too futuristic and would limit the community to current and future game situations (IE lineage 2 is out of the question in this gaming community).
I don't think its an advert, at least, thats not its main purpose. I've asked for help naming things before and then completely ignored the suggestions given because they weren't right. Besides, a lot of the suggestions were quite obviously unusable.
sorry black. maybe i got a little carried away. i jsut don't like the no advertising rule. alot of people who are trying to get their server's up by advertising here get their threads locked. i'm not against your server, i'm really not. i hope it does well. i just don't like the fact some server's can make threads and some can't. like the whole nsa veteran server or bry's 1.04 weekend or those gorge races or whatever. those don't get locked. i'm not against those, it just seems like they can bypass the rule by setting up some event much like you did right here. if it was up to me, i would make a whole new forum just for that stuff and leave everything server related out of general. for me it's all or nothing.
you will eventually post the i.p. and server name in this thread though, won't you?
<!--QuoteBegin-CMEast+Mar 13 2005, 07:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CMEast @ Mar 13 2005, 07:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't think its an advert, at least, thats not its main purpose. I've asked for help naming things before and then completely ignored the suggestions given because they weren't right. Besides, a lot of the suggestions were quite obviously unusable. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> mine wasn't.......
Sorry its taken so long, the website is registered and everything.
We are working on the website right now...
At the moment only forums are available.
The community name will be: Nucleargamers
Website: www.NuclearGamers.com
Previous community/server name: CO2 custom maps/mods
Old Server IP: 67.18.151.34:27015 CO2 Custom/Classic maps/mods I say "old" server ip because we are moving servers, this one will go down in a month.
New Server IP: 70.84.146.162:27015 (is not up fully yet) This is the server we will be moving to, its quite beefy and can handle 32 players on a NS (not co) map =)
As you can see, the name was significantly better than many of the suggestions made, and I hope people can now see why we did not go with any of the previous suggestions .
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->As you can see, the name was significantly better than many of the suggestions made, and I hope people can now see why we did not go with any of the previous suggestions .<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm sorry, but no.. the name you chose is not significantly better than any of the suggested names. It's tacky as well as unoriginal. I'm sorry if I sound harsh here, but you come in here saying you WILL be number one. You also get away with advertising your server where many people don't even get the chance. Then you go and shoot down many great ideas for NUCLEARGAMER? <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Violence+Mar 19 2005, 03:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Violence @ Mar 19 2005, 03:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->As you can see, the name was significantly better than many of the suggestions made, and I hope people can now see why we did not go with any of the previous suggestions .<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm sorry, but no.. the name you chose is not significantly better than any of the suggested names. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I'd have to agree, I liked Synthetic Servers best.
its generic, so it allows flexibility into other games/mods...
Its pretty original, where else have you heard of nucleargamers? It really dosen't matter how much you argue, because the fact that the website domain was still available is the best proof of the idea being original.
This thread was not started to advertise. People have asked me bout this, so i decided to answer them on this thread. And yes, we will eventually be #1. And i dont mean for one day or one week... when we get the #1 spot we will hold it for months at a time =)
We have already switched servers twice (3 servers total), and renamed our server/community once (very recently from co2 to nucleargamers), so this has set us back as far as server popularity because of the IP change/name change confusion. But in the end, i plan to have the server completely or nearly full twenty four hours a day.
People think it is hard to believe, but the secret lies in appealing to different timezones and personalities, i wont go too much in detail about this <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
About the syntheticservers... it just sounded... synthetic. I feel that nucleargamers has that feel of power and energy in it that synthetic servers dosen't have.
What were some other BETTER suggestions than Nucleargamers?
<!--QuoteBegin-xtremecore+Mar 8 2005, 02:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (xtremecore @ Mar 8 2005, 02:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> why even reply if you're going to suggest something so idiotic that you knew it would not be used nor even considered. ::ULTRABIGSIGH:: This just goes to show you that asking 14-15 year olds for advice will never succeed. Since you "kids" failed to read the starting post(if you can even read for that matter), let me clue you in on some important information..
-MUST not limit the community to Just natural-selection. We are leaving in the possibility that we may expand into other games. so it must not contain NS, naturalselection, or strong refrences to natural-selection.
aka SKULKS-R-US.COM is not going to work. Be sensible, not moronic. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Psst, they're not doing it because they're morons, or because they're 14 year olds. They're doing it because they don't know you, you asked them to do something, and you specifically asked them to follow certain rules that would limit the humor of the responses. The laws of Internet humor and conduct require that at least half of the opening responses to this thread do exactly that which you don't want us to do. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Oh, and as for the name being easy to spell: <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Sorry its taken so long, the website is registered and everything.
Thanks for the correction. Theres a difference between easy spelling and typos. Regardless i must hand it to you, that was funny.
In regards to the alledged counts of premeditated and deliberate advertisement:
I have read the community guidelines, and they state:
Aggressive advertising is not allowed.
Now, the key word here is the word aggressive. If i were to advertise in the post title, or on the first post, or add advertisements to every reply's i made.... that would be aggressive. However, i did not do that.
I'm sure the natural-selection forums are heavily moderated by respectable people who are able to judge for themselves what is right or wrong. If what i did was wrong they would have certainly closed the post by now.
If you feel what is being done here is wrong, please submit a complaint to the forum administrators (That would be of much more help) rather than posting whines or complaints in the same post that you are complaining about. This goes for every other post, not just this one
Remember, we dont want to make it hard on the moderators. If you see ANY questionable post, PLEASE report it to the moderators ASAP.
To be honest with you, I don't like the name <b>www.NuclearGamers.com</b> and I honestly prefer www.<b>syntheticservers</b>.com as it reminds me of the matrix (perhaps it has to do with the connotation the word has in my language, which is dutch -> synthetisch) as a 'virtual' world. But that doesn't mean I would choose for the name www.<b>syntheticservers</b>.com.
Let me go back to the first post of this topic where you stated to what criteria the name must be within, and let us compare that to the name you have chosen. <!--QuoteBegin-blackjackel+Mar 8 2005, 03:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (blackjackel @ Mar 8 2005, 03:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You must remember the following rules when suggesting: -MUST be easy to spell : <span style='color:red'>negative</span>: you couldn't spell it yourself! <!--QuoteBegin-xtremecore+Mar 8 2005, 02:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (xtremecore @ Mar 8 2005, 02:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Oh, and as for the name being easy to spell: <!--QuoteBegin-BY YOU+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BY YOU)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Sorry its taken so long, the website is registered and everything. We are working on the website right now... At the moment only forums are available. The community name will be: Nucleargamers <b>Website: www.<span style='color:red'>Nucler</span>Gamers.com</b> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
-MUST be easy to remember : <span style='color:red'>rather negative</span> -MUST be simple : <span style='color:red'>negative</span> -MUST not limit the community to Just natural-selection. : <b>well that is not relevant as the score on the first three points are rather weak.</b> We are leaving in the possibility that we may expand into other games. So it must not contain NS, naturalselection, or strong refrences to natural-selection.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-blackjackel+Mar 20 2005, 02:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (blackjackel @ Mar 20 2005, 02:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Its pretty original, where else have you heard of nucleargamers? It really dosen't matter how much you argue, because the fact that the website domain was still available is the best proof of the idea being original.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> This is what I call cognitive dissonance, in more simple words (but not doing justice to the term cognitive dissonance) you believe what you want to believe. If I follow your statement then this website with the name <a href='http://www.idontlikeyourname.com' target='_blank'>Idontlikeyourname</a> is original? So the fact that a name is still available proves that your idea is original? Let me state this very simple: the fact that the name isn't taken yet is because it isn't taken YET and has nothing to do with originality. Lucky enough for you the site <a href='http://www.cognitivedissonance.com/' target='_blank'>cognitive dissonance</a> is already taken, and you might learn something. Go figure.
I just gave you my honest opinion, that doesn't mean I wouldn't play on your server if in the end it will turn out to be a good one (considering the location and the pings I get).
Something a bit late but oh well, I thought it sounded good as it's general to almost all Half-Life mods. Crate-Central <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
again, there is difference between a typo and being unable to spell a certain word.
I was clearly able to spell the word, as i had spelled it a few times before, the fact that i mis-typed it once does not mean it is hard to spell.
And i cannot see the word synthetic being any easier than nuclear. The address syntheticservers has 3 more letters than nucleargamers. Besides, there kinda sorta relation between the world nuclear and half-life...
as in half-life is the time it takes for an unstable element (otherwise radioactive), to decay half its weight. Nuclear, radioactive....etc. At the same time as tying-in with half-life it also is loose enough to let us expand into other game genras.
I believe nucleargamers is very simple and very easy to remember, and i feel it was a better choice than any of the suggestions given. If i had felt otherwise, along with the other admins of nucleargamers, we would have chosen one of the other suggestions.
also, isn't it kinda cheap to fill a server with 30 bots, all whose name is "everyone is at 656.36.236.41" and "ist bein nuclear" or whatever so that your server will be at the top of the list?
<span style='color:red'><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>*mod, can you lock please?*</span></span>
If you can see, that server is filled with bots that point to our other server.
We moved servers, and instead of loosing lots of people off our other server move (we moved twice), i decided to fill the other server up with bots with the ip of the other server listed.
So that people go to our old server, look at the scoreboard, and see 20+ listing of ips pointing to the new server so that they can update their bookmarks. This old server will die in 2 weeks, leaving only the new server.
We are also changing names from CO2 to Nucleargamers.com, which is why the old server is called CO2 aka nucleargamers.com and the new server is called nucleargamers.com aka CO2. This is another reason for keeping the old server up and filled with bots.
The new server will remain up indefinately.
Again, this is not a ploy to "trick" people or anything like that. If i wanted to do something that dastardly i would have simply set up a redirect server to send them directly to the new server, where they would be able to play with many others that have been tricked into playing on the sew server (had i done that), but i didnt. Reason i didnt do that is because i want people to know the new server ip and that the server is changing, becuase if i sent them there directly they woudlnt know and when the old server dies, they are disconnected from nucleargamers.
The new server IP is: 70.84.146.162:27015 NuclearGamers.com AKA Co2 Custom maps/mods
The old server IP is: 67.18.151.34:27015 Co2 AKA NuclearGamers.com Custom maps/mods THE OLD SERVER IS JUST FOR DIRECTING MEMBERS TO OUR NEW SERVER. IT WILL DIE IN TWO WEEKS, IT IS NOT MEANT TO BE A REAL PLAYABLE SERVER. Although it can be, its fully capable of handling 30 players.
<span style='color:red'>Mods, please lock this topic if you feel the need to. If not, then please reply back on why you arent locking the topic to stop others from constantly requesting this topic locked.</span>
Nuclear Gamers.....that sounds so familar, but I dunno where. For some reason I see Fallout...... \= Anyway, yeah, I guess you can think of it not as a futuristic thing, but more of a power thing. Nukes are skarey!....../me shrugs <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> 2 cents
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lets see here.
-5 page thread
-people suggesting ideas which rouses people's interests
-didn't actually USE any of the ideas, so perhaps it was just a big ploy?
i could just say i'm making a new server, have the name i'm gonna use already, and just trick people into thinking that i actually want input for their name, when in fact i dont really give a damn. then when the thread gets big and juicy, say that you didn't like any of the idea's and you made one of your own. then announce the new name. people will be interested in what the new name was, get interest about the server and join it.
.........atleast that's what i would have done..........
lets see here.
- 5 page thread <span style='color:red'>(in my browser it is two pages though)</span>
- people suggesting ideas which rouses people's interests
- didn't actually USE any of the ideas, so perhaps it was just a big ploy?
i could just say i'm making a new server, have the name i'm gonna use already, and just trick people into thinking that i actually want input for their name, when in fact i dont really give a damn. then when the thread gets big and juicy, say that you didn't like any of the idea's and you made one of your own. then announce the new name. people will be interested in what the new name was, get interest about the server and join it.
.........atleast that's what i would have done..........<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well I was thinking more or less the same thing as you mention. And I don't think it is wrong, so I prefered to focus on the input. If the forum admins think it was wrong, they would have locked this thread (as to my knowledge they don't want you to advertise overhere <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> ). You can allways report this thread, but it won't matter that much cuz they already got a name for their server. If only they are fast enough to announce it overhere ^^.
I think it is good for the community that new servers want to give ns a try and make themselfs known to the world. Being a succesfull server amongst other succesfull servers makes the community grow.
Greetz,
XtOf
lets see here.
-5 page thread
-people suggesting ideas which rouses people's interests
-didn't actually USE any of the ideas, so perhaps it was just a big ploy?
i could just say i'm making a new server, have the name i'm gonna use already, and just trick people into thinking that i actually want input for their name, when in fact i dont really give a damn. then when the thread gets big and juicy, say that you didn't like any of the idea's and you made one of your own. then announce the new name. people will be interested in what the new name was, get interest about the server and join it.
.........atleast that's what i would have done..........<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I feel so violated... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
might as well call it WWW.SCAM.COM
geeze..... some people now a days... jk
I don't have any good ideas for server names....oh wait yes I do
www.AvengerX.Com.... that'd be one KICK ACE SERVER
lets see here.
-5 page thread
-people suggesting ideas which rouses people's interests
-didn't actually USE any of the ideas, so perhaps it was just a big ploy?
i could just say i'm making a new server, have the name i'm gonna use already, and just trick people into thinking that i actually want input for their name, when in fact i dont really give a damn. then when the thread gets big and juicy, say that you didn't like any of the idea's and you made one of your own. then announce the new name. people will be interested in what the new name was, get interest about the server and join it.
.........atleast that's what i would have done.......... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think your just saying all that because wer'e going to be competing with you...
But i dont really wanna be against you or anything, i dont hate you...
Ill tell you what, I wish you well, and all i have to say is that what you said was not the case at all. I really dont want to argue with you, i actually want to act like a mature and responsible admin for a change...
In response to the statement.... If we had a name already we would have already started a community and everything; However, we dont have a website, no forums, no stats, because was (and still is) all on hold because of the name...
The only reason we haven't announced the name yet is because it hasnt been registered yet, so if we disclose the name someone might register it. Besides, if this was truly all a ploy wouldn't it have been smarter to milk the cow longer? Why announce that we found a name when we can get even more pages in the thread?
If you would really like to have detailed explanations on why certain suggestions were not used, please ask them... but please check to see if the suggestion has been taken (registered) first... I'd be glad to answer them.
The most rock-solid proof i can provide against Xeno's argument is that I haven't actually posted the Server I.P. yet, which nullifies the argument that it was purely for advertisement... because i am not advertising anything =)
BTW, FYI: I was not the one that came up with the name, it was one of the admins (we had a brainstorming session). But theres still small problems with the name, for example, the name is too futuristic and would limit the community to current and future game situations (IE lineage 2 is out of the question in this gaming community).
you will eventually post the i.p. and server name in this thread though, won't you?
mine wasn't.......
We are working on the website right now...
At the moment only forums are available.
The community name will be: Nucleargamers
Website: www.NuclearGamers.com
Previous community/server name: CO2 custom maps/mods
Old Server IP: 67.18.151.34:27015 CO2 Custom/Classic maps/mods
I say "old" server ip because we are moving servers, this one will go down in a month.
New Server IP: 70.84.146.162:27015 (is not up fully yet)
This is the server we will be moving to, its quite beefy and can handle 32 players on a NS (not co) map =)
As you can see, the name was significantly better than many of the suggestions made, and I hope people can now see why we did not go with any of the previous suggestions .
I'm sorry, but no.. the name you chose is not significantly better than any of the suggested names. It's tacky as well as unoriginal. I'm sorry if I sound harsh here, but you come in here saying you WILL be number one. You also get away with advertising your server where many people don't even get the chance. Then you go and shoot down many great ideas for NUCLEARGAMER? <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/mad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I'm sorry, but no.. the name you chose is not significantly better than any of the suggested names. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'd have to agree, I liked Synthetic Servers best.
anywho, gl with the server.
its generic, so it allows flexibility into other games/mods...
Its pretty original, where else have you heard of nucleargamers?
It really dosen't matter how much you argue, because the fact that the website domain was still available is the best proof of the idea being original.
This thread was not started to advertise. People have asked me bout this, so i decided to answer them on this thread. And yes, we will eventually be #1. And i dont mean for one day or one week... when we get the #1 spot we will hold it for months at a time =)
We have already switched servers twice (3 servers total), and renamed our server/community once (very recently from co2 to nucleargamers), so this has set us back as far as server popularity because of the IP change/name change confusion. But in the end, i plan to have the server completely or nearly full twenty four hours a day.
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About the syntheticservers... it just sounded... synthetic. I feel that nucleargamers has that feel of power and energy in it that synthetic servers dosen't have.
What were some other BETTER suggestions than Nucleargamers?
-MUST not limit the community to Just natural-selection.
We are leaving in the possibility that we may expand into other games.
so it must not contain NS, naturalselection, or strong refrences to natural-selection.
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Psst, they're not doing it because they're morons, or because they're 14 year olds. They're doing it because they don't know you, you asked them to do something, and you specifically asked them to follow certain rules that would limit the humor of the responses. The laws of Internet humor and conduct require that at least half of the opening responses to this thread do exactly that which you don't want us to do. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html/emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Oh, and as for the name being easy to spell:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Sorry its taken so long, the website is registered and everything.
We are working on the website right now...
At the moment only forums are available.
The community name will be: Nucleargamers
<b>Website: www.NuclerGamers.com</b>
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In regards to the alledged counts of premeditated and deliberate advertisement:
I have read the community guidelines, and they state:
Aggressive advertising is not allowed.
Now, the key word here is the word aggressive. If i were to advertise in the post title, or on the first post, or add advertisements to every reply's i made.... that would be aggressive. However, i did not do that.
I'm sure the natural-selection forums are heavily moderated by respectable people who are able to judge for themselves what is right or wrong. If what i did was wrong they would have certainly closed the post by now.
If you feel what is being done here is wrong, please submit a complaint to the forum administrators (That would be of much more help) rather than posting whines or complaints in the same post that you are complaining about. This goes for every other post, not just this one
Remember, we dont want to make it hard on the moderators. If you see ANY questionable post, PLEASE report it to the moderators ASAP.
To be honest with you, I don't like the name <b>www.NuclearGamers.com</b> and I honestly prefer www.<b>syntheticservers</b>.com as it reminds me of the matrix (perhaps it has to do with the connotation the word has in my language, which is dutch -> synthetisch) as a 'virtual' world. But that doesn't mean I would choose for the name www.<b>syntheticservers</b>.com.
Let me go back to the first post of this topic where you stated to what criteria the name must be within, and let us compare that to the name you have chosen. <!--QuoteBegin-blackjackel+Mar 8 2005, 03:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (blackjackel @ Mar 8 2005, 03:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You must remember the following rules when suggesting:
-MUST be easy to spell : <span style='color:red'>negative</span>: you couldn't spell it yourself!
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Oh, and as for the name being easy to spell:
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Sorry its taken so long, the website is registered and everything.
We are working on the website right now...
At the moment only forums are available.
The community name will be: Nucleargamers
<b>Website: www.<span style='color:red'>Nucler</span>Gamers.com</b>
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-MUST be easy to remember : <span style='color:red'>rather negative</span>
-MUST be simple : <span style='color:red'>negative</span>
-MUST not limit the community to Just natural-selection. : <b>well that is not relevant as the score on the first three points are rather weak.</b>
We are leaving in the possibility that we may expand into other games. So it must not contain NS, naturalselection, or strong refrences to natural-selection.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-blackjackel+Mar 20 2005, 02:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (blackjackel @ Mar 20 2005, 02:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Its pretty original, where else have you heard of nucleargamers? It really dosen't matter how much you argue, because the fact that the website domain was still available is the best proof of the idea being original.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This is what I call cognitive dissonance, in more simple words (but not doing justice to the term cognitive dissonance) you believe what you want to believe. If I follow your statement then this website with the name <a href='http://www.idontlikeyourname.com' target='_blank'>Idontlikeyourname</a> is original?
So the fact that a name is still available proves that your idea is original? Let me state this very simple: the fact that the name isn't taken yet is because it isn't taken YET and has nothing to do with originality. Lucky enough for you the site <a href='http://www.cognitivedissonance.com/' target='_blank'>cognitive dissonance</a> is already taken, and you might learn something. Go figure.
I just gave you my honest opinion, that doesn't mean I wouldn't play on your server if in the end it will turn out to be a good one (considering the location and the pings I get).
Greetz,
XtOf
-industryfield
Don't care about that registered web. These two names are just so good.
I was clearly able to spell the word, as i had spelled it a few times before, the fact that i mis-typed it once does not mean it is hard to spell.
And i cannot see the word synthetic being any easier than nuclear. The address syntheticservers has 3 more letters than nucleargamers. Besides, there kinda sorta relation between the world nuclear and half-life...
as in half-life is the time it takes for an unstable element (otherwise radioactive), to decay half its weight. Nuclear, radioactive....etc. At the same time as tying-in with half-life it also is loose enough to let us expand into other game genras.
I believe nucleargamers is very simple and very easy to remember, and i feel it was a better choice than any of the suggestions given. If i had felt otherwise, along with the other admins of nucleargamers, we would have chosen one of the other suggestions.
also, isn't it kinda cheap to fill a server with 30 bots, all whose name is "everyone is at 656.36.236.41" and "ist bein nuclear" or whatever so that your server will be at the top of the list?
<span style='color:red'><span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>*mod, can you lock please?*</span></span>
We moved servers, and instead of loosing lots of people off our other server move (we moved twice), i decided to fill the other server up with bots with the ip of the other server listed.
So that people go to our old server, look at the scoreboard, and see 20+ listing of ips pointing to the new server so that they can update their bookmarks. This old server will die in 2 weeks, leaving only the new server.
We are also changing names from CO2 to Nucleargamers.com, which is why the old server is called CO2 aka nucleargamers.com and the new server is called nucleargamers.com aka CO2. This is another reason for keeping the old server up and filled with bots.
The new server will remain up indefinately.
Again, this is not a ploy to "trick" people or anything like that. If i wanted to do something that dastardly i would have simply set up a redirect server to send them directly to the new server, where they would be able to play with many others that have been tricked into playing on the sew server (had i done that), but i didnt. Reason i didnt do that is because i want people to know the new server ip and that the server is changing, becuase if i sent them there directly they woudlnt know and when the old server dies, they are disconnected from nucleargamers.
The new server IP is:
70.84.146.162:27015 NuclearGamers.com AKA Co2 Custom maps/mods
The old server IP is:
67.18.151.34:27015 Co2 AKA NuclearGamers.com Custom maps/mods
THE OLD SERVER IS JUST FOR DIRECTING MEMBERS TO OUR NEW SERVER. IT WILL DIE IN TWO WEEKS, IT IS NOT MEANT TO BE A REAL PLAYABLE SERVER. Although it can be, its fully capable of handling 30 players.
<span style='color:red'>Mods, please lock this topic if you feel the need to. If not, then please reply back on why you arent locking the topic to stop others from constantly requesting this topic locked.</span>
thanks.