The New Team Balance Code

Chron

<div class="IPBDescription">But what if I don't WANT to switch?</div> It is something that NEEDS to be done, but at the same time, I'm a bit concerned how it will be done.
I play aliens. period. I play the game so I can play aliens. I play CS so I can use a gun. What if I don't want to switch because Marines are outnumbered?
and same goes for the marine players that don't enjoy playing aliens for whatever reason.
Is there a solution to making people play the race they don't want to play?

Typhon

maybe have it prioritize switching people that went through the 'random' gate (indicating they dont care which race they play) so that people who strongly want one race are more likely to stay that race

Barbarian

<!--QuoteBegin--Chron+Nov 5 2002, 01:35 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chron @ Nov 5 2002, 01:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->It is something that NEEDS to be done, but at the same time, I'm a bit concerned how it will be done.
I play aliens. period. I play the game so I can play aliens. I play CS so I can use a gun. What if I don't want to switch because Marines are outnumbered?
and same goes for the marine players that don't enjoy playing aliens for whatever reason.
Is there a solution to making people play the race they don't want to play?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
maybe autoswitch the most recent joiners? In the case of aliens, probably not good to autoswitch the building class, so probably not best to autoswitch people lowest on score list (where do builders end up?) but rather based on how long you've been on the team.

DarkSim2

i think they should give player who have been in the server a long to priority over guys who just came in. new peole to the sever got to the tean in need of an extra player.

Fina

I am the same way. I only play as the aliens. If I want armor, guns, and jetpacks, I'll play Tribes 2.

I don't wanna get autoswitched to the Marines, ever.

Kotau

Actually, there's an easy way to get the teams to balance.


Get your team to just sit there.
DO NOTHING BUT WAIT out in the open. Then dont move.

It's the silent treatment.
It works.

fraggleroc

both are good suggestions- either switch players who chose random gate or the most recent players that joined.

Chron

<!--QuoteBegin--Kilmster+Nov 5 2002, 06:58 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kilmster @ Nov 5 2002, 06:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I imagine that it'll only effect players who just joined the game, so if you tried to join marines and there were too many marine players, it would just send you back to the readyroom.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
what if teams get unbalanced because aliens left the game, or vice versa?

Barbarian

<!--QuoteBegin--Kilmster+Nov 5 2002, 01:58 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Kilmster @ Nov 5 2002, 01:58 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I imagine that it'll only effect players who just joined the game, so if you tried to join marines and there were too many marine players, it would just send you back to the readyroom.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes that is exactly what it does.. Duh! I've played on some of the beta servers and I forgot.

Greedo

It is my understanding that it won't work like auto-balance in other mods. i.e. If the game starts out as 8v8, but then 6 aliens leave, it will continue as 8v2 until the game ends. Rather, anyone who joins the server will not be allowed to join the marine team in the 8v2 case, so they'll have to play aliens, or they'll have to find a new server.

Chron

<!--QuoteBegin--Greedo386+Nov 5 2002, 07:44 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Greedo386 @ Nov 5 2002, 07:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->It is my understanding that it won't work like auto-balance in other mods. i.e. If the game starts out as 8v8, but then 6 aliens leave, it will continue as 8v2 until the game ends. Rather, anyone who joins the server will not be allowed to join the marine team in the 8v2 case, so they'll have to play aliens, or they'll have to find a new server.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><span class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
hrm, good enough for me.

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Flayra

Yep, Greedo's right. The current system that's in the patch to be released to server ops this week only limits when you can join teams. You will NEVER be switched from one team to another. This was especially important because of the unique nature of each side.

Hayduke

I sypmathise with you, but the basic problem here is that the teams are often unbalanced. If the alien teams are full you HAVE to play the marines. There's not really any point to playing on the aliens team if there are only 2 marines.

Look on the bright side, it will make the game more interesting. And if you are forced to play marines every so often, you will know your enemy that much better.

On the other hand, like Flay said, if you get on the alien side you stay there. And you can always switch servers if you really have to.

Visser

Well they cant code some kind of "i dont wanna swap toggle". Cause then the whole of the oversized team will just hit that and nothing happens.