Gamma Detactors

master_wongmaster_wong Join Date: 2004-11-05 Member: 32649Members
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<div class="IPBDescription">It detects aliens for free!!!</div> Well, does it really exist? I heard you can turn up gamma of your screen and you will see cloaked aliens.
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  • NadagastNadagast Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6884Members
    No it doesn't. If there was a way you could turn it up so high to see cloaked things, it would be detrimental to your play (skulks would blend in easily with yellow walls, etc).
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  • GneralasGneralas Join Date: 2004-01-20 Member: 25523Members
    Why would you want to see cloaked aliens anyway?



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  • AdvPredatorAdvPredator Join Date: 2004-03-04 Member: 27137Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Gneralas+Nov 13 2004, 01:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gneralas @ Nov 13 2004, 01:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why would you want to see cloaked aliens anyway?



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    Watta good question... Someone, i want to know too ?

    +1
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  • PetcoPetco Join Date: 2003-07-27 Member: 18478Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Djeepy46234+Nov 12 2004, 11:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Djeepy46234 @ Nov 12 2004, 11:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Gneralas+Nov 13 2004, 01:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gneralas @ Nov 13 2004, 01:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why would you want to see cloaked aliens anyway?



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    Watta good question... Someone, i want to know too ?

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    Nice <!--emo&::gorge::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/pudgy.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='pudgy.gif' /><!--endemo--> avatar. If you mess around with it yes you could see cloaked aliens.
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  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    Gamma has nothing to do with your ability to see cloaked aliens


    What does however is your graphics card, crappier graphic cards can see cloaked aliens like it's nobody's business
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  • GneralasGneralas Join Date: 2004-01-20 Member: 25523Members
    How can crappier video cards reveal what a better card can not?

    (now this discussion is going somewhere)
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  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-Gneralas+Nov 13 2004, 02:35 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gneralas @ Nov 13 2004, 02:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> How can crappier video cards reveal what a better card can not?

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    Because it doesn't draw the cloak properly


    I know because I have several crappy computers
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  • amnesiacamnesiac Join Date: 2004-11-03 Member: 32619Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Djeepy46234+Nov 13 2004, 02:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Djeepy46234 @ Nov 13 2004, 02:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Gneralas+Nov 13 2004, 01:57 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gneralas @ Nov 13 2004, 01:57 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Why would you want to see cloaked aliens anyway?



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    Watta good question... Someone, i want to know too ?

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    is this a sarcastic statement?
    lol...
    because if you if you can see "cloaked" skulk then there really is no use to the upgrade and put's the marine at an advantage
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  • KaMiKaZe1KaMiKaZe1 Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9196Members
    I can see cloaked aliens quite easily on my Radeon 9800 XT, but I do have my graphics settings all the way down.
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  • SpaceMoogle5SpaceMoogle5 Join Date: 2003-06-23 Member: 17643Members, NS1 Playtester
    <!--QuoteBegin-Forlorn+Nov 13 2004, 02:43 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Nov 13 2004, 02:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Gneralas+Nov 13 2004, 02:35 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gneralas @ Nov 13 2004, 02:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> How can crappier video cards reveal what a better card can not?

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    Because it doesn't draw the cloak properly


    I know because I have several crappy computers<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    umm I have a VERY ghetto graphics card (radeon 7200 64MB) and back in the day I couldn't see a skulk with cloaking until he decides to eat me. HOWEVER, one day I decided to use gl_overbright 1 and lightgamma 1, and could see them moving from across the room. Also Whiteknight had powerstrip(yes it can be used still) and it helped him A LOT so gamma most definitely DOES help your ability to see cloaked skulks.

    That may have changed in the last few months(gg Disney) but when I played NS on the 19th of May it still worked.

    yay,
    <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>
    SM5
    </span>

    <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo--> + <!--emo&::hive::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/hive5.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='hive5.gif' /><!--endemo--> action hmmmm seksy
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  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-[FFT]SpaceMoogle5+Nov 13 2004, 03:20 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([FFT]SpaceMoogle5 @ Nov 13 2004, 03:20 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Forlorn+Nov 13 2004, 02:43 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Nov 13 2004, 02:43 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Gneralas+Nov 13 2004, 02:35 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Gneralas @ Nov 13 2004, 02:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> How can crappier video cards reveal what a better card can not?

    (now this discussion is going somewhere) <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Because it doesn't draw the cloak properly


    I know because I have several crappy computers<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    umm I have a VERY ghetto graphics card (radeon 7200 64MB) and back in the day I couldn't see a skulk with cloaking until he decides to eat me. HOWEVER, one day I decided to use gl_overbright 1 and lightgamma 1, and could see them moving from across the room. Also Whiteknight had powerstrip(yes it can be used still) and it helped him A LOT so gamma most definitely DOES help your ability to see cloaked skulks.

    That may have changed in the last few months(gg Disney) but when I played NS on the 19th of May it still worked.

    yay,
    <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>
    SM5
    </span>

    <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo--> + <!--emo&::hive::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/hive5.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='hive5.gif' /><!--endemo--> action hmmmm seksy <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It's all in your head, brightness shouldn't affect the average person enough so that he can see cloaking easier


    Unless of course you have a crappy montor, or you are in a dark area, but my monotor is nice and bright so yeah.
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  • SpaceMoogle5SpaceMoogle5 Join Date: 2003-06-23 Member: 17643Members, NS1 Playtester
    All I know is this weather or not it is in my head it DID work, and not just for me but for someone that I live with, and a few clanmates, so even <span style='color:red'> <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>IF</span></span> it is just psychogical, it still made me(the permanub) earn hackusations on pubs. SOOO in conclustion, whatever brings it on, I believe it helps a lot.

    #Scr.otum:I know you're there you little bastid!!

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    NSplayer:!!!??WTHBSHAX!?!?!?!

    meh,
    <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>
    SM5
    </span>
    PS[/topic] discussion aside GL in the playoffs Forlorn
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  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-[FFT]SpaceMoogle5+Nov 13 2004, 03:35 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ([FFT]SpaceMoogle5 @ Nov 13 2004, 03:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> All I know is this weather or not it is in my head it DID work, and not just for me but for someone that I live with, and a few clanmates, so even <span style='color:red'> <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>IF</span></span> it is just psychogical, it still made me(the permanub) earn hackusations on pubs. SOOO in conclustion, whatever brings it on, I believe it helps a lot.

    #Scr.otum:I know you're there you little bastid!!

    <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    NSplayer:!!!??WTHBSHAX!?!?!?!

    meh,
    <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>
    SM5
    </span>
    PS[/topic] discussion aside GL in the playoffs Forlorn <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well as far as the cloak not being drawn very well is your graphics card, but actually being able to SEE the incosistancies... I would guess brighter would be easier for older people.

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    Ty for the GL my FFT dude
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  • SpaceMoogle5SpaceMoogle5 Join Date: 2003-06-23 Member: 17643Members, NS1 Playtester
    tis true by gaming standards I am retirement age (24) Wish I was kidding too...
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  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    Master wong's gonna go burn his retinas out now, setting his gamma/brightness to near-Sun levels.
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  • Gecko_God_Of_DooomGecko_God_Of_Dooom Join Date: 2004-02-10 Member: 26353Members
    high resulution. 1240x1024 makes it easier to see as well.
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  • SDJasonSDJason Join Date: 2003-05-29 Member: 16841Members
    edited November 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-KaMiKaZe!!!+Nov 13 2004, 03:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KaMiKaZe!!! @ Nov 13 2004, 03:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I can see cloaked aliens quite easily on my Radeon 9800 XT, but I do have my graphics settings all the way down. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Why spend all that money on a good vid card... only to turn the settings all the way down??

    <span style='color:white'>Be nice.</span>
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  • sawcesawce Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10787Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> high resulution. 1240x1024 makes it easier to see as well.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Don't say that, or next thing you know people will start accusing others of resolution cheating <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • john_sheujohn_sheu Join Date: 2004-02-26 Member: 26917Members
    Lightgamma 0 works too, I believe; it makes all models draw as black.
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  • SpaceMoogle5SpaceMoogle5 Join Date: 2003-06-23 Member: 17643Members, NS1 Playtester
    I thought its default was 0... I could be wrong though.
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  • ElderwyrmElderwyrm Join Date: 2003-04-07 Member: 15296Members
    edited November 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-SDJASON+Nov 13 2004, 08:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SDJASON @ Nov 13 2004, 08:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-KaMiKaZe!!!+Nov 13 2004, 03:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KaMiKaZe!!! @ Nov 13 2004, 03:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I can see cloaked aliens quite easily on my Radeon 9800 XT, but I do have my graphics settings all the way down. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Why spend all that money on a good vid card... only to turn the settings all the way down??

    <span style='color:white'>Be nice.</span><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    With settings all the way down. Player models will still be sharp, but the rest of the world will be blurry and crappy. And the contrast between the sharp and the blurry make it easy to see your enemy and score kills.

    Nadagast explained this better and with pics so search if you want to know anything further.
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  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    While the gamma on your screen may not assist in seeing cloaked aliens, it's my experience that the ambient light level does. A cloaked alien is fairly easy to spot in a bright room, yet nearly impossible to see in a dark room.

    Just my 2c.
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  • XCanXCan Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 5904Members, Constellation
    Stuff like smoke gives cloaked things out too. Cloak and stand in front of spores and you'll know what I mean.
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  • KaMiKaZe1KaMiKaZe1 Join Date: 2002-11-18 Member: 9196Members
    edited November 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Elderwyrm+Nov 13 2004, 09:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Elderwyrm @ Nov 13 2004, 09:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-SDJASON+Nov 13 2004, 08:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SDJASON @ Nov 13 2004, 08:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-KaMiKaZe!!!+Nov 13 2004, 03:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KaMiKaZe!!! @ Nov 13 2004, 03:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I can see cloaked aliens quite easily on my Radeon 9800 XT, but I do have my graphics settings all the way down. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Why spend all that money on a good vid card... only to turn the settings all the way down??

    <span style='color:white'>Be nice.</span><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    With settings all the way down. Player models will still be sharp, but the rest of the world will be blurry and crappy. And the contrast between the sharp and the blurry make it easy to see your enemy and score kills.

    Nadagast explained this better and with pics so search if you want to know anything further. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    On top of that, I would much rather have a solid 90-100 fps instead of 50-100 fluctuations. I play the game for fun, fun to me is killing aliens. If I were playing the game for atmosphere I'd have my lightgamma set to 8 with my graphics cranked right up. XD
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  • Diablo_fxDiablo_fx Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13793Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-KaMiKaZe!!!+Nov 14 2004, 02:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KaMiKaZe!!! @ Nov 14 2004, 02:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ... I play the game for fun, fun to me is killing aliens. If I were playing the game for atmosphere I'd have my lightgamma set to 8 with my graphics cranked right up. XD <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Remember the Arcade vs Simulation? .. this is it, tho it would be fun (at a lan) to play with lightgamma and all gamma settings like 5.. Scary
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  • AaronAaron vroom vroom der party startah Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7020Members
    You can already see level 3 cloaked aliens if you are looking for them and pay attention.
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  • Diablo_fxDiablo_fx Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13793Members
    Again what settings help on seeing cloaked aliens?

    Lightgamma 0 (and the way to do it?)
    gl_overbrigt 1/0 (rumor, does it help?)
    low settings in gfx card?
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  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-Diablo_fx+Nov 14 2004, 12:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diablo_fx @ Nov 14 2004, 12:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Again what settings help on seeing cloaked aliens?

    Lightgamma 0 (and the way to do it?)
    gl_overbrigt 1/0 (rumor, does it help?)
    low settings in gfx card? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    gl_overbright doesn't work for me

    In your config

    Lightgamma 0
    alias lightgamma ""

    low settings in gfx card (I guess... turning off AA would help a bunch)
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  • Diablo_fxDiablo_fx Join Date: 2003-02-21 Member: 13793Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Forlorn+Nov 14 2004, 06:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Nov 14 2004, 06:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Diablo_fx+Nov 14 2004, 12:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diablo_fx @ Nov 14 2004, 12:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Again what settings help on seeing cloaked aliens?

    Lightgamma 0 (and the way to do it?)
    gl_overbrigt 1/0 (rumor, does it help?)
    low settings in gfx card? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    gl_overbright doesn't work for me

    In your config

    Lightgamma 0
    alias lightgamma ""

    low settings in gfx card (I guess... turning off AA would help a bunch) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actully i just tested low/high video settings, i couldn't see cloaked SCs in MS with any of them. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> thx for Lightgamma fix Forlorn.
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  • NadagastNadagast Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6884Members
    edited November 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-john_sheu+Nov 13 2004, 08:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (john_sheu @ Nov 13 2004, 08:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Lightgamma 0 works too, I believe; it makes all models draw as black. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No, that's just plain wrong. It just makes stuff brighter, it does not make stuff black... which won't help you see cloaked stuff. It's locked at 2 or 2.5 or above anyway
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