The Matrix, And Why Neo Is An Idiot
I've been thinking about The Matrix recently, and I can't figure out why Neo would want to destroy the Matrix. In the Matrix, he's a god-like being. Outside, he's a gangly white guy. And, what do humans have to wake up to? An utterly decimated planet full of machines? How is that better?
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Well, problem is, he doesn't destroy it. He just kills that guy.
They want to get out because their basically being used- hell, for all they know, humans COULD be meant to live 500+ years, not what the machines manufactured them into being.
BTW: TMO rocks.
Well, problem is, he doesn't destroy it. He just kills that guy.
They want to get out because their basically being used- hell, for all they know, humans COULD be meant to live 500+ years, not what the machines manufactured them into being.
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IIRC, at the end of Revolutions all the humans were to be woken up and given a choice: either stay awake and rebuild, or go back to the Matrix.
Theories went out the window when they closed it by saying 'yep, humans really are being used as batteries by evil machines LOL!' Reloaded gave me hope that it would be a worthwhile trilogy, revolutions crushed that hope. None of the interesting philosophical ideas were given any screen time. Just lots of 'NEO PUNCH FACE'. The matrix joins that club that the aliens movies, the highlander movies, and so on are all a part of. The first movie is fine, the other two -- I just like to pretend they don't exist.
Because, it's not real. They're living in a pretend world. If I could have anything I wanted, be god, but live in a fake world, I wouldn't. I'd fight just like Neo would.
Ever played Final Fantasy Tactics? Same exact concept.
"Hello Neo. Do you know who this is?"
"Mom?"
"No Neo, I am not your mother. Guess again."
"Mom?"
I love that movie. :D
When I got a DVD burner the first thing i did was burn it off to DVD format. :D
Too bad its still in low res though.
"Hello Neo. Do you know who this is?"
"Mom?"
"No Neo, I am not your mother. Guess again."
"Mom?"
I love that movie. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
When I got a DVD burner the first thing i did was burn it off to DVD format. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Too bad its still in low res though. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
..i feel somehow those guys were sponsored by mc donalds... i loved the chase scenes at the end of the movie, with the silly music
The Mootrix ftw
because cows were not the enemys of the machines.
it was explained in animatrix why the machines locked away the humans to use them as powersource, as slaves,like the machines were used before by the humans. they also locked them into the matrix so they wont cause any more harm to the planet...and other crap... the humans destroyed the worlds ecosystem in the last battle before the matrix ,with thousands of planes spraying sunlight absorbing chemical smoke in the atmosphere..so the machines solarpanels will get useless..(huhu..never heard of nuclear power,that little detail pwned the humans)
without sun, no gras..without gras no cows..or any other domestic plant eating species.. and without plant eaters no carnivores and so on..only humans were clever enough to survive... guess why they were all eating this recycled proteine mucus.. there were nomore animals or plants.. maybe just lower ones like algea and bacterias used to process the "food" and add proteins to it ...
matrix is just stupid....
"Because I choose to."
So my point being that at the end of the movie: Smith is dead, Neo is dead or chomatose. So the machines can now extract his code and restart the matrix as they intended to do in the first place.
So i the questions i have are:
1, why doesn't the matrix restart.
2, why do they agree to peace, when the architect says that zion will be destroyed and its happened 8 or so times before. (in Reloaded)
3, why does it just generally suck.
4, dont you find it ironic that Smith finds the human race to be a virus on the face of the earth when he himself becomes a virus in the matrix (so to speak)
Well theres my 2 cents. If u cant understand any parts ive written then i'll be happy to explain further. and if im wrong in any way plz correct me.
So my point being that at the end of the movie: Smith is dead, Neo is dead or chomatose. So the machines can now extract his code and restart the matrix as they intended to do in the first place.
So i the questions i have are:
1, why doesn't the matrix restart.
2, why do they agree to peace, when the architect says that zion will be destroyed and its happened 8 or so times before. (in Reloaded)
3, why does it just generally suck.
4, dont you find it ironic that Smith finds the human race to be a virus on the face of the earth when he himself becomes a virus in the matrix (so to speak)
Well theres my 2 cents. If u cant understand any parts ive written then i'll be happy to explain further. and if im wrong in any way plz correct me. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Regarding why the machines give the humans a chance, is because Neo struck a deal with them. He stops Smith, the machines stop the war.
And regarding Smith's role as a virus himself, it's called dramatic irony.
Ever played Final Fantasy Tactics? Same exact concept. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Actually, Final Fantasy Tactics's concept was "What if we could bring Shakespeare back to life? He could write the story for our turn based strategy game."
You're thinking of the vastly inferior in every way sequel, Final Fantasy Tactics Advance.
Really, that's where the heart of the matter lies. If you knew that your friend knew a piece of info that was so horrible for your life, that it would cause you to want to commit suicide, would you want him to tell you?
The fact is, they didn't have to, but they made the "real" world far worse. So it's a compromise. The 1% of the population that wanted to be freed from the matrix represented the 1% of the population which would have picked truth and hardship over ignorance and bliss.
So, in other words, the Matrix is just like Steam. There are hax00rs and there are admins. And every once in a while, the servers need to be upgraded and reset, to counter the hax. So you bring in the One guy to do it for you.
Heck, if you watch closely, you can see some guy in the background of some scenes doing the CS jump.
But on a serious note (OMG...serious...such bs...) did the freed battery humans ever think that the people were content with being batteries? Shoot, because of it, a symbiotic relationship was created. That should be a good thing, because now the two "races" depend upon each other for survival. There is no more war, just as there is no spoon. Geez.
Take for example High School, people always tell you its the best years of your life and that this is one of the most important times of your life. You can chose to believe that, or you can see the truth and realize that its just another 4 years that your learn stuff in. Wouldn't you rather have the choice to see both sides of the issue rather than just mindlessly believing in one.
Take for example High School, people always tell you its the best years of your life and that this is one of the most important times of your life. You can chose to believe that, or you can see the truth and realize that its just another 4 years that your learn stuff in. Wouldn't you rather have the choice to see both sides of the issue rather than just mindlessly believing in one. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Revolutions was all about the power of choice, agreed. Hell they say it in the movie like 3 million times.
Theories went out the window when they closed it by saying 'yep, humans really are being used as batteries by evil machines LOL!' Reloaded gave me hope that it would be a worthwhile trilogy, revolutions crushed that hope. None of the interesting philosophical ideas were given any screen time. Just lots of 'NEO PUNCH FACE'. The matrix joins that club that the aliens movies, the highlander movies, and so on are all a part of. The first movie is fine, the other two -- I just like to pretend they don't exist. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Are you saying Aliens isn't fine?
Dear me.
What about nulear powers?
The sun can't reach the earth? Migrate to above the atmosphere! Blast that cloud out of the sky!
Human resistance threatening the matrix? Nuke the damn city they're in (in the matrix).
Trying to catch Morpheus? Drop a giant anvil or a very very big box on him!
Meeting heavy resistance at Zion? Don't send in the Squiddy troops, drop the buttload of Napalms, missiles, nukes. Heck use the EMP and disabling their defense first instead of letting them use it against the squiddies.
Keanu kicking agents' ****? /copy and paste agents (Not applicable in part II and III)
Agent Smith became a virus? /format C:
Theories went out the window when they closed it by saying 'yep, humans really are being used as batteries by evil machines LOL!' Reloaded gave me hope that it would be a worthwhile trilogy, revolutions crushed that hope. None of the interesting philosophical ideas were given any screen time. Just lots of 'NEO PUNCH FACE'. The matrix joins that club that the aliens movies, the highlander movies, and so on are all a part of. The first movie is fine, the other two -- I just like to pretend they don't exist. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Lets not forget Starwars.
LMAO simple, but funny!
LMAO simple, but funny! <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Returning to deeper thinking and hidden meaning...
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I could look for alternative means of energy and risk it being sabotaged by the humans, or I could simply assimulate several billion humans and make them my energy source killing two birds with one stone. Besides, at the time of the matrix, I imagine humans weren't as sparce as humans.
I think it's a no-brainer.