Radical Fabric Is One Atom Thick

DOOManiac · October 2004

<div class="IPBDescription">nanotechnology stuffs</div><a href='http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3944651.stm' target='_blank'>This article</a> is quite an interesting read, even if it does get to be pretty technical.

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><b>Radical fabric is one atom thick</b>

A new class of material, which brings computer chips made from a single molecule a step closer, has been discovered by scientists.

Called graphene, it is a two-dimensional, giant, flat molecule which is still only the thickness of an atom.

The nanofabric's remarkable electronic properties mean that an ultra-fast and stable transistor could be made.

The physicists from the University of Manchester and Chernogolovka, Russia, published their research in Science.

"In my opinion, this is one of the most exciting thing to have happened in solid state physics in a decade," Professor Laurence Eaves, semi-conductor expert from the University of Nottingham told the BBC News website.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Wierd indeed.

EEK · October 2004

And then we get to wait 85 years for anything to happen with it....

Jeez. This crap, those nano LCD screens, all this 'new technology' that doesn't pan out for decades, I just stopped caring.

jumpingjoda · October 2004

Nanites, get it? ha ha ha.
This is interesting, i cant wait to own a micro pc with the brand new moleculeforce 6900 ultra 256 atoms ram integrated.

Nemesis_Zero · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ Oct 23 2004, 09:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> And then we get to wait 85 years for anything to happen with it....

Jeez. This crap, those nano LCD screens, all this 'new technology' that doesn't pan out for decades, I just stopped caring.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
I'm certain those scientists are awfully sorry for not being able to compress research times into movie length. Einstein needed decades to get his theories done. Is that a reason not to care for those, too?

I find it pretty cool that a one-atom-thick compound doesn't fall apart on short notice.

Nil_IQ · October 2004

Mmmm, monomolecular sword........

Remember me Ssssnake?

docchimpy · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DOOManiac @ Oct 23 2004, 04:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <a href='http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3944651.stm' target='_blank'>This article</a> is quite an interesting read, even if it does get to be pretty technical.

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><b>Radical fabric is one atom thick</b>

A new class of material, which brings computer chips made from a single molecule a step closer, has been discovered by scientists.

Called graphene, it is a two-dimensional, giant, flat molecule which is still only the thickness of an atom.

The nanofabric's remarkable electronic properties mean that an ultra-fast and stable transistor could be made.

The physicists from the University of Manchester and Chernogolovka, Russia, published their research in Science.

"In my opinion, this is one of the most exciting thing to have happened in solid state physics in a decade," Professor Laurence Eaves, semi-conductor expert from the University of Nottingham told the BBC News website.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

Wierd indeed.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
OLO THE SICETNIST MAED A GRAMMER MISTAEK!!!!!!oneoneone

In other news, this is pretty cool. Anyone care to enlighten me on possible applications?(I'm stupid) Other than impressing the ladies, of course.

Quaunaut · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Oct 23 2004, 02:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ Oct 23 2004, 09:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> And then we get to wait 85 years for anything to happen with it....

Jeez. This crap, those nano LCD screens, all this 'new technology' that doesn't pan out for decades, I just stopped caring. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
I'm certain those scientists are awfully sorry for not being able to compress research times into movie length. Einstein needed decades to get his theories done. Is that a reason not to care for those, too?

I find it pretty cool that a one-atom-thick compound doesn't fall apart on short notice.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
What he means Nem0, is implementation time- he's saying we probably won't be able to use this until were all dead.

Mr_Headcrab · October 2004

All of a sudden, i want Nanopants an atom thick. So i can say to chicks "All that's keeping you from vomiting is one atom's worth of nanopants..." >:D

UltimaGecko · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mr. Headcrab @ Oct 23 2004, 04:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> All of a sudden, i want Nanopants an atom thick. So i can say to chicks "All that's keeping you from vomiting is one atom's worth of nanopants..." >:D  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
I would guess, at one atom thick, they'd basically be transparent. So, I think we're going to hold back on those nanopants, lest we stack many nanopant layers on top of eachother to make a real fabric.

Nemesis_Zero · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Oct 23 2004, 09:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> What he means Nem0, is implementation time- he's saying we probably won't be able to use this until were all dead. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
True, bad example. It took several decades between the invention of the Otto Motor and the invention of the car. Does that make it less significant?

And don't tell me we won't see the outcome of such discoveries. The average forum goer's age is below twenty. The scientists who'll make discoveries that'll go beyond our event horizon have not passed High School yet.

Quaunaut · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nemesis Zero @ Oct 23 2004, 02:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Oct 23 2004, 09:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> What he means Nem0, is implementation time- he's saying we probably won't be able to use this until were all dead. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
True, bad example. It took several decades between the invention of the Otto Motor and the invention of the car. Does that make it less significant?

And don't tell me we won't see the outcome of such discoveries. The average forum goer's age is below twenty. The scientists who'll make discoveries that'll go beyond our event horizon have not passed High School yet.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
True. But just wondering- how long did it take Otto's invention to become car? I honestly don't know <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' />

I'm guessing we'll all be too old for it though- but hell, think about what if the military got this stuff. Who needs Kevlar when you have a mere 10 layers(hardee har har) of the strongest Radical Fabric ever? Not even AKs will go through those. You could cover all of it in that- we'd be friggin invincible.

....nevermind. You read nothing here. At all.

Gwahir · October 2004

well... the problem isn't penetration, it's force absorption. You wouldn't be too happy if you were shot with a bullet that simply brought the clothe into your body with it...

Ratonetwothreetwoone · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ Oct 23 2004, 04:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> And then we get to wait 85 years for anything to happen with it....

Jeez. This crap, those nano LCD screens, all this 'new technology' that doesn't pan out for decades, I just stopped caring.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>But, said Professor Geim, judging by how quickly carbon nanotubes developed, graphene could be ready for industrial application in about 10 years.</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>

POOP_Akira · October 2004

...thats thinner then paper!

Bait_Boy · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nil_IQ @ Oct 23 2004, 04:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Mmmm, monomolecular sword........

Remember me Ssssnake?  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
I was thinking more along the lines of Deus Ex's Dragon's Tooth

Gwahir · October 2004

paper cut! OWE IT HURTS!

TommyVercetti · October 2004

Now what exactly can we do with 1-atom thick nanopants? I seriously hope they get NS-type nanoscale robots before I die, as they could kind of let you live forever, or at least until you get hit by a bad driver.

POOP_Akira · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Oct 23 2004, 05:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Now what exactly can we do with 1-atom thick nanopants?</td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
Make single cell organisms the most fashionable things on the planet ofcourse!

Gwahir · October 2004

ah but in NS such devices are not allowed on heavily populated planets because they can self-replicate until all available resources are consumed, covering the planet.

boooger · October 2004

yeah, they have the same problem with making spidersilk armor - it'd stop the bullet with the thickness of your ordinary tshirt, but you'd have a shattered ribcage. you know, minor technicalities like that.

Ratonetwothreetwoone · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Oct 23 2004, 05:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Now what exactly can we do with 1-atom thick nanopants? I seriously hope they get NS-type nanoscale robots before I die, as they could kind of let you live forever, or at least until you get hit by a bad driver. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
nothing, but think of the condoms <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink-fix.gif' />

ThE_HeRo · October 2004

Wow. I'm impressed. I bet the public will start reaping the benefits in a few decades, not 80 years.

im_lost · October 2004

I wish there was more technical info in there, actually. I'm taking a class right now learning about how transistors work, how to put them together to do something useful, and their limitations (Electrical Engineering major). One thing I get from the article is that higher voltages can actually be used to increase the current beyond what is currently possible. Higher current means faster transistors, which means faster computers. This would be really nice, since, according to my teacher, the current silicon design of transistors can't be made much faster.

Keep in mind that this is just my attempt to make sense of what is in the article, and could be completely wrong.

Sky · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (boooger @ Oct 23 2004, 05:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> yeah, they have the same problem with making spidersilk armor - it'd stop the bullet with the thickness of your ordinary tshirt, but you'd have a shattered ribcage. you know, minor technicalities like that.  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
That's still alot better than the hollowpoint going through and blasting out half of your back...

Tyrain · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (i'm lost @ Oct 23 2004, 11:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> I wish there was more technical info in there, actually. I'm taking a class right now learning about how transistors work, how to put them together to do something useful, and their limitations (Electrical Engineering major). One thing I get from the article is that higher voltages can actually be used to increase the current beyond what is currently possible. Higher current means faster transistors, which means faster computers. This would be really nice, since, according to my teacher, the current silicon design of transistors can't be made much faster.

Keep in mind that this is just my attempt to make sense of what is in the article, and could be completely wrong. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
That's exactly what the article says. Think about computers a lot smaller than what we got right now, with x times more power and less heat (cause the electrons don't crash into that much atoms>less heat).

edited for correctnesness. <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' />

lagger · October 2004

How did we get from better transistors to armor? The article had no application to armor what so ever, I also dont see how it would be applied... Just because it can provide a better medium for computing doesnt mean it will be a better armor... or am I just missing something?

Elderwyrm · October 2004

Whatever. Naturally a material that could make better transistors would be the perfect substance for armour. I've stopped bullets with my mobo!

Tyrain · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lagger @ Oct 24 2004, 01:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> How did we get from better transistors to armor? The article had no application to armor what so ever, I also dont see how it would be applied... Just because it can provide a better medium for computing doesnt mean it will be a better armor... or am I just missing something?  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
Uhm they're making jokes regarding nanites? <img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' />

Surge · October 2004

Aren't scalpels a molecule or two thick on the edge?

boooger · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (5kyh16h91 @ Oct 23 2004, 05:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (boooger @ Oct 23 2004, 05:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> yeah, they have the same problem with making spidersilk armor - it'd stop the bullet with the thickness of your ordinary tshirt, but you'd have a shattered ribcage. you know, minor technicalities like that. </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'>
That's still alot better than the hollowpoint going through and blasting out half of your back...  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
very true, i just didn't want people saying "I am invincible!" like boris from goldeneye, because wearing that would not render you indestructable.

Ratonetwothreetwoone · October 2004

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Surge @ Oct 23 2004, 08:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Aren't scalpels a molecule or two thick on the edge?  </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> 
i cut myself with one of those once on accident......

Radical Fabric Is One Atom Thick

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