We're not saying that if you have sex you won't have a good relationship, we're trying to explain that since he just met this girl, sleeping with her is not going to help them love each other. She just wants to use him for sex, and he was (I believe) wanting more.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> We're not saying that if you have sex you won't have a good relationship, we're trying to explain that since he just met this girl, sleeping with her is not going to help them love each other. She just wants to use him for sex, and he was (I believe) wanting more.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's probable that there is some form of emotional involvement on her end. Emotional involvement is a large part of female sexual attraction. There are exceptions to the rule of course, but the odds are low unless there's some form of trauma.
The fact that you've spent the night would indicate that your relationship is fairly serious. It's not like you're her best friend who was over for a slumber party.
It sounds like you're both at least somewhat emotionally invested in this relationship. While you haven't been dating long, it's certainly possible that the relationship is ready to move to the next level. Keep in mind, the "next level" doesn't necessarily need to include full vaginal intercourse. In fact, vaginal intercourse is one of the <i>least</i> stimulating sex acts for a woman. A good "medium" level sex act could be mutual masturbation. Just go for the clitoris and don't look back.
Another interesting thing to note is that you have many teenage boys who are more horny than a dog in heat, and you think that is normal. Though, when thinking about this girl wanting to have sex there must be something clinically wrong, or perhaps she was trmaitized as a child. Don't you find anything wrong about that observation? Girls can get horny to you know...
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No, I'm saying, statistically, she's emotionally involved with our young Claudio. There are other reasons for wanting to have sex, but statistically, they're not very prevalent. From his description of events, this isn't some random drunken hook-up, so I'm going to throw my bet down on "emotionally involved." I know that girls can get horny too. Hell, I dated a dominatrix. But that doesn't change the fact that emotion is a huge part of female sexual attraction.
And as a side note, it is normal for teenage boys to be hornier than a dog in heat. The average male reports no emotional involvement with his first sex partner, placing more importance on the act itself than who the act is with.
Where's Firewater? I think that he's a Psych student. He'll back me up on this.
Statistics only prove what the norm is. They may be good for making assumptions, but assumptions are no good when you're looking for advice. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> After all, what we have here is a young man who evidently is NOT "hornier than a dog in heat". Or if he is, at least this is not the only thing that dictates his behaviour. Thus he already doesn't conform to the statistics. It's quite possible that neither does his gf. Likely? Not according to the statistics. Possible? According to the initial post, yes.
And as a side note, it is normal for teenage boys to be hornier than a dog in heat. The average male reports no emotional involvement with his first sex partner, placing more importance on the act itself than who the act is with. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> But is that something you want to encourage?
It's not a matter of encouraging or discouraging. Our sexual drive is amoral, and you're trying to moralize it. It's similar to saying that testosterone is bad because it can lead to aggression and sexual arousal. Men simply place more importance on the act and that's neither good nor bad. It simply is.
At any rate, I think the point is moot. Our young chum seems to have decided that Bunburying isn't for him.
sexual drive is natural, but you should at least be careful of when to indulge it <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
well... once again i spent another night at hers... is this normal once i've comitted this much to like, not be seperated from her. I mean i can keep my distance and cope without talking to her constantly, but it's like i want to see her when i'm not
This guy has the most balanced view on what makes a man, and will help you understand female attraction if you'll bother listening to him. He'll also tell you that the best thing you can do is take it slow. Women thrive off of anticipation. If she's trying to force you into sex, don't give in. Take things on <i>your</i> terms, instead of hers.
Also, check yourself man. Keep your emotions from running amok. If you make yourself less available to her, she's going to want you more. There's an old saying "absence makes the heart grow fonder." Well, don't call her every night, don't be with her every day. Live your life man.
If you take things slow, move on your terms, and don't become a whiny wussy boy, she's going to want to keep moving things with you.
And seriously, buy that guys Ebook. His stuff works, and he doesn't turn you into an emo listening, over feminized crybaby.
This guy has the most balanced view on what makes a man, and will help you understand female attraction if you'll bother listening to him. He'll also tell you that the best thing you can do is take it slow. Women thrive off of anticipation. If she's trying to force you into sex, don't give in. Take things on <i>your</i> terms, instead of hers.
Also, check yourself man. Keep your emotions from running amok. If you make yourself less available to her, she's going to want you more. There's an old saying "absence makes the heart grow fonder." Well, don't call her every night, don't be with her every day. Live your life man.
If you take things slow, move on your terms, and don't become a whiny wussy boy, she's going to want to keep moving things with you.
And seriously, buy that guys Ebook. His stuff works, and he doesn't turn you into an emo listening, over feminized crybaby. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> i'm like the opposit of emo, i'm ome, or whatever. I wear vests and go to the gym 4 times a week.
illuminex: just by reading the intro I can already tell this is going to be a doozy. :X then again, all the guys went off about in the 'praises' for the book about how hot the girls were and nothing else, so... eh.
'over-feminized crybaby'? no comment other than 'get with the times.'
I dont know what the last guy knows, but I just bought the book from doubleyourdating.com, and It tells you ALOT of good advice. It tells you what they are attracted to, and how to accomplish certain objectives. Just take my advice and the other guy's advice and GET IT!!!!!! ITS WORTH EVERY PENNY!!!
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Women are not attracted to **** boys. That's simple fact. Women want <i>men</i>, not boys. That's his point. And his whole technique is improving and building a better <i>man</i>, a man with confidence, a great sense of humor, and who is not shy around women.
My advice is for the way your decision is carried out:
If you go for it, make sure it is clear to her you're doing it because you want to, because she's great, etc, and not because she forced you into it.
If you don't, make sure it is clear to her that it's not because of HER, like she's not hot enough to convince you. (Even though this is probably unavoidable at some level)
There's no universal "trick" to getting women. Any women you get will probably be coincidental or a result of a placebo effect. Proper socialization gives you all of the abilities you need. Just so long as you aren't a wallflower and are capable of having something resembling a conversation, you'll be fine.
Keep in mind that the author of that book is running a business. The goal of business is to make money, not get you women. The website is designed to sell you something. In this case, it's the hope that reading the book will get you laid.
Remember, his free email newsletter is enough for you to learn how to get basic results. Basically, it's like a "demo" version. I worked with the demo for months before I bought the book.
And have you ever heard of "gender stereotypes?" They exist because most members of a gender act and think in somewhat similar fashion. His "formula" of cocky/funny works like a charm. Of course, that's the point; teaching men how to be confident and charming.
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It's your choice, make sure it's not a stupid one.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> We're not saying that if you have sex you won't have a good relationship, we're trying to explain that since he just met this girl, sleeping with her is not going to help them love each other. She just wants to use him for sex, and he was (I believe) wanting more.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's probable that there is some form of emotional involvement on her end. Emotional involvement is a large part of female sexual attraction. There are exceptions to the rule of course, but the odds are low unless there's some form of trauma.
The fact that you've spent the night would indicate that your relationship is fairly serious. It's not like you're her best friend who was over for a slumber party.
It sounds like you're both at least somewhat emotionally invested in this relationship. While you haven't been dating long, it's certainly possible that the relationship is ready to move to the next level. Keep in mind, the "next level" doesn't necessarily need to include full vaginal intercourse. In fact, vaginal intercourse is one of the <i>least</i> stimulating sex acts for a woman. A good "medium" level sex act could be mutual masturbation. Just go for the clitoris and don't look back.
No, I'm saying, statistically, she's emotionally involved with our young Claudio. There are other reasons for wanting to have sex, but statistically, they're not very prevalent. From his description of events, this isn't some random drunken hook-up, so I'm going to throw my bet down on "emotionally involved." I know that girls can get horny too. Hell, I dated a dominatrix. But that doesn't change the fact that emotion is a huge part of female sexual attraction.
And as a side note, it is normal for teenage boys to be hornier than a dog in heat. The average male reports no emotional involvement with his first sex partner, placing more importance on the act itself than who the act is with.
Where's Firewater? I think that he's a Psych student. He'll back me up on this.
After all, what we have here is a young man who evidently is NOT "hornier than a dog in heat". Or if he is, at least this is not the only thing that dictates his behaviour. Thus he already doesn't conform to the statistics. It's quite possible that neither does his gf. Likely? Not according to the statistics. Possible? According to the initial post, yes.
And as a side note, it is normal for teenage boys to be hornier than a dog in heat. The average male reports no emotional involvement with his first sex partner, placing more importance on the act itself than who the act is with.
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But is that something you want to encourage?
At any rate, I think the point is moot. Our young chum seems to have decided that Bunburying isn't for him.
-Working
-At college
-With the lads
-Here
Is that normal? is it?
This guy has the most balanced view on what makes a man, and will help you understand female attraction if you'll bother listening to him. He'll also tell you that the best thing you can do is take it slow. Women thrive off of anticipation. If she's trying to force you into sex, don't give in. Take things on <i>your</i> terms, instead of hers.
Also, check yourself man. Keep your emotions from running amok. If you make yourself less available to her, she's going to want you more. There's an old saying "absence makes the heart grow fonder." Well, don't call her every night, don't be with her every day. Live your life man.
If you take things slow, move on your terms, and don't become a whiny wussy boy, she's going to want to keep moving things with you.
And seriously, buy that guys Ebook. His stuff works, and he doesn't turn you into an emo listening, over feminized crybaby.
This guy has the most balanced view on what makes a man, and will help you understand female attraction if you'll bother listening to him. He'll also tell you that the best thing you can do is take it slow. Women thrive off of anticipation. If she's trying to force you into sex, don't give in. Take things on <i>your</i> terms, instead of hers.
Also, check yourself man. Keep your emotions from running amok. If you make yourself less available to her, she's going to want you more. There's an old saying "absence makes the heart grow fonder." Well, don't call her every night, don't be with her every day. Live your life man.
If you take things slow, move on your terms, and don't become a whiny wussy boy, she's going to want to keep moving things with you.
And seriously, buy that guys Ebook. His stuff works, and he doesn't turn you into an emo listening, over feminized crybaby. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
i'm like the opposit of emo, i'm ome, or whatever. I wear vests and go to the gym 4 times a week.
'over-feminized crybaby'? no comment other than 'get with the times.'
Women are not attracted to **** boys. That's simple fact. Women want <i>men</i>, not boys. That's his point. And his whole technique is improving and building a better <i>man</i>, a man with confidence, a great sense of humor, and who is not shy around women.
If you go for it, make sure it is clear to her you're doing it because you want to, because she's great, etc, and not because she forced you into it.
If you don't, make sure it is clear to her that it's not because of HER, like she's not hot enough to convince you. (Even though this is probably unavoidable at some level)
There's no universal "trick" to getting women. Any women you get will probably be coincidental or a result of a placebo effect. Proper socialization gives you all of the abilities you need. Just so long as you aren't a wallflower and are capable of having something resembling a conversation, you'll be fine.
Keep in mind that the author of that book is running a business. The goal of business is to make money, not get you women. The website is designed to sell you something. In this case, it's the hope that reading the book will get you laid.
And have you ever heard of "gender stereotypes?" They exist because most members of a gender act and think in somewhat similar fashion. His "formula" of cocky/funny works like a charm. Of course, that's the point; teaching men how to be confident and charming.