Suspicious Player...

SawhatSawhat Join Date: 2004-09-14 Member: 31711Members
edited September 2004 in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">How did he do it?</div> I went on some random low ping server and I meet this guy... he was frightfully accurate with his guns when I played aliens, so next round i went into spec mode to observe his behavior. He joins aliens and the first thing he did was twitch up and jerk his mouse down&right and back to start a bhop. And he wasn't particular great at assaulting, slightly under 1:1, although the only reason he got the kills because the speed bonus. Thing is, he repeated the bhop startup in the near exact same position in the exact same way.
Then he went fade, and as soon as it seemed he got the 3rd ability, he was constantly blink/meta/swipe. In fact I couldn't even see the switch to the meta because he ended up in swipe, but I knew he was using it because his energy barely dropped. I ask whether he's using scripts and of course he says no. I persist that he is doing his techinque at an inhumany rate, but he retorts "quickswitch".... I know quickswitch only cycle through 2 weapons, and declared that, but got no further comment, nor did anyone else mind.

So how this person able to bhop and blink/meta/swipe so perfectly, with no delay?

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  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Hud_fastswitch 1
    Bind keys to slot1, 2 and 3.

    Anyone can do it with a little practice.
  • TheGuyTheGuy Join Date: 2003-08-09 Member: 19295Members, Constellation
    Yes, it's entirely possible to do both. The start jump you speak of is a technique called gliding. The second part, he means hud_fastswitch 1. He just presses 1 2 or 3. It's really simple.
  • DuoGodOfDeathDuoGodOfDeath Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1044Members
    Hud_fastswitch 1 and a bind near my walk keys to quickly switch to slot 1. A few people say I use a script to do my meta/blink/swipe move but its just extremely fast mousewheel movements with a bit of | (Pipe) bind.

    So mousewheel down - Blink
    down once more - Meta
    | (Pipe) Slot 1

    Not that hard to do just takes some time and practice.
  • SawhatSawhat Join Date: 2004-09-14 Member: 31711Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-TheGuy+Sep 19 2004, 02:35 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheGuy @ Sep 19 2004, 02:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yes, it's entirely possible to do both. The start jump you speak of is a technique called gliding. The second part, he means hud_fastswitch 1. He just presses 1 2 or 3. It's really simple. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I myself have hud_fastswitch set to 1, but like I said, he constantly switched blink/meta/swipe even when not in combat. He was already in swipe mode before mid-flight.... can any of you do that? I have hard enough time blinking/meta/blinking alone. Could you guys manage that for every blink? Or more practice on my part?
  • DuoGodOfDeathDuoGodOfDeath Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1044Members
    I consider myself a pretty decent fade. Its not hard to do most of these things. It just takes a fast brain and quick fingers to get everything down pat. Not hard at all to do blink/meta/blink at all.
  • SariselSarisel .::&#39; ( O ) &#39;;:-. .-.:;&#39; ( O ) &#39;::. Join Date: 2003-07-30 Member: 18557Members, Constellation
    It really isn't hard, unless you have arthritis.
  • ZERGZERG Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13132Members, Constellation
    You don't even need fastswitch. I play with it at 0 mostly out of habit. Of course its faster with it, but you know what they say about habits. <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    And yes, to repeat what these two said, it is easy. It's easier than say sitting down! OMG
  • coriscoris Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18034Members, Constellation
    The little "twitch" you saw him do is a glidejump; explained here www.othell.com/bhop

    Blink+meta is easy with hud_fastswitch 1
  • jumpingjodajumpingjoda Join Date: 2003-12-14 Member: 24367Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    I actually feel uncomfortable while blinking without meta.
    Great, it's a part of my instinct now <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> .
  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Sawhat+Sep 19 2004, 02:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sawhat @ Sep 19 2004, 02:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Could you guys manage that for every blink? Or more practice on my part? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Just as long as you have Blink/Meta/Swipe engraved into your head (like me when using lerks I always do 3 flaps then glide) then you'll be able to do the same.

    It just has to become a natural habit for you. Besides, I used to do the same but I played too much lerk and lost the Fading habit <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Garet_JaxGaret_Jax Join Date: 2003-02-23 Member: 13870Members, Constellation
    edited September 2004
    Not sure if metabolising mid-blink is really possible- I can change weapons quick enough, and I have hud_fastswitch on, but I'm pretty sure there's a good 1 second delay between switching to metabolise and activating it.

    (Let's assume that the blink isn't a crazy hyper-active jump that could make u leap over the walkway in viaduct- its just a short one that puts u in the air for half a second)
  • Edward_r2Edward_r2 Join Date: 2003-11-27 Member: 23626Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Sawhat+Sep 19 2004, 02:22 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sawhat @ Sep 19 2004, 02:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->How did he do it?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <span style='font-size:27pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'><i><b><u>Skill.</u></b></span></span></i>
  • MamboKingMamboKing Join Date: 2004-03-06 Member: 27169Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Garet Jax+Sep 19 2004, 08:42 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Garet Jax @ Sep 19 2004, 08:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Not sure if metabolising mid-blink is really possible- I can change weapons quick enough, and I have hud_fastswitch on, but I'm pretty sure there's a good 1 second delay between switching to metabolise and activating it.

    (Let's assume that the blink isn't a crazy hyper-active jump that could make u leap over the walkway in viaduct- its just a short one that puts u in the air for half a second) <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Wrong, it is possible and is the norm.
  • NadagastNadagast Join Date: 2002-11-04 Member: 6884Members
    edited September 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Sawhat+Sep 19 2004, 12:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sawhat @ Sep 19 2004, 12:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-TheGuy+Sep 19 2004, 02:35 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheGuy @ Sep 19 2004, 02:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yes, it's entirely possible to do both. The start jump you speak of is a technique called gliding. The second part, he means hud_fastswitch 1. He just presses 1 2 or 3. It's really simple. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I myself have hud_fastswitch set to 1, but like I said, he constantly switched blink/meta/swipe even when not in combat. He was already in swipe mode before mid-flight.... can any of you do that? I have hard enough time blinking/meta/blinking alone. Could you guys manage that for every blink? Or more practice on my part? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I know that when I fade I constantly switch between swipe and blink... pretty much as soon as I'm done blinking I go back to swipe... it's really easy to do once you get in the habit of it. Just bind a key to lastinv and use fastswitch... Scripts would only hinder the process =\

    Edit: Christ seriously what is wrong with NS? Just because someone is better than you doesn't mean he has OMG SCRIPTS or hacks. I swear there is something wrong with this community...
  • Jmmsbnd007Jmmsbnd007 Join Date: 2002-11-24 Member: 9793Banned, Constellation
    May I ask the name of this person? Because I could've sworn someone asked me something about this a few days ago and me not wanting to type out a full page essay I just replied "quickswitch".
  • DaxxDaxx Join Date: 2002-04-16 Member: 460Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Edward.r2+Sep 19 2004, 10:18 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Edward.r2 @ Sep 19 2004, 10:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Sawhat+Sep 19 2004, 02:22 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sawhat @ Sep 19 2004, 02:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->How did he do it?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <span style='font-size:27pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:red'><i><b><u>Skill.</u></b></span></span></i> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:yellow'>HAX!</span></span> Get some torches! Witch hunt time!


    Its quite possible, just takes some pratice. I'm mearly average in fading (far prefer gorge or lerk) but I can manage to blink/swipe decently well.
  • AlkillerAlkiller Join Date: 2004-05-23 Member: 28847Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Sawhat+Sep 19 2004, 03:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Sawhat @ Sep 19 2004, 03:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-TheGuy+Sep 19 2004, 02:35 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TheGuy @ Sep 19 2004, 02:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yes, it's entirely possible to do both. The start jump you speak of is a technique called gliding. The second part, he means hud_fastswitch 1. He just presses 1 2 or 3. It's really simple. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I myself have hud_fastswitch set to 1, but like I said, he constantly switched blink/meta/swipe even when not in combat. He was already in swipe mode before mid-flight.... can any of you do that? I have hard enough time blinking/meta/blinking alone. Could you guys manage that for every blink? Or <b>more practice on my part?</b> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Practice solves everything <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    You'll get the hang of it eventually.
  • Garet_JaxGaret_Jax Join Date: 2003-02-23 Member: 13870Members, Constellation
    edited September 2004
  • MerciorMercior Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4019Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Hmmm, I too have had somebody speccing me recently and accusing me of using scripts because I blink-metab-swipe. This is the entire point of metabolise, its quite pathetic that you cant play the game properly without being accused of some sort of hax nowdays.

    The reason his bunnyhop looks "exactly the same every time" is because he has practised it and he has developed his own style of bunnyhopping; Every player who can bunnyhop has their own style of starting the hop, and movement during it. It isnt even possible to script bunnyhop strafing, if this is what you are trying to suggest.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    If he is scripting hes stupid, cause all you have to do is keep practicing and you will be better than him in no time.
  • Firestorm2Firestorm2 Join Date: 2004-08-09 Member: 30473Members
    edited September 2004
    learn to play an instrument for quick fingers
    prime your brain for learning creativity and fast thinking

    similar bhopping may be simply learned movement patterns
  • the_x5the_x5 the Xzianthian Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27041Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Nadagast+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nadagast)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Christ seriously what is wrong with NS? Just because someone is better than you doesn't mean he has OMG SCRIPTS or hacks. I swear there is something wrong with this community...
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    Agree = 100%

    It's even funnier considering a large portion of our community comes from TFC where making scripts is part of the orgainzed gameplay.

    *stars singing Ok Go -- "Get over it" *

    Hey! Get get get get get over it!

    Makes you sick, makes you ill,
    makes you cheat, slipping change from the till.
    Had it up to the gills... makes you cry while
    the milk still spills. Ain't it just a bit.ch? What a pain...
    Well it's all a crying shame. What
    left to do but complain? Better find someone to blame.

    Hey! Get get get get get over it!

    Got a job, got a life, got a four-door and a faithless wife.
    Got those nice copper pipes, got an ex, got a room for the night.
    Aren't you such a catch?
    What a prize! Got a body like a battle
    axe... Love that perfect frown, honest eyes...
    We ought to buy you a Cadillac.

    Hey! Get get get get get over it!
  • SaZe1SaZe1 Join Date: 2004-02-04 Member: 26057Members, Constellation
    What exactly does that fast switch hude thing do?
  • the_x5the_x5 the Xzianthian Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27041Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-(SaZe)+Sep 20 2004, 04:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ((SaZe) @ Sep 20 2004, 04:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What exactly does that fast switch hude thing do? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--QuoteBegin-reiterates part of song you didn't listen to+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (reiterates part of song you didn't listen to)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Well it's all a crying shame. What
    left to do but complain? Better find someone to blame.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-agentx5+Sep 20 2004, 04:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (agentx5 @ Sep 20 2004, 04:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-(SaZe)+Sep 20 2004, 04:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> ((SaZe) @ Sep 20 2004, 04:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> What exactly does that fast switch hude thing do? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--QuoteBegin-reiterates part of song you didn't listen to+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (reiterates part of song you didn't listen to)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Well it's all a crying shame. What
    left to do but complain? Better find someone to blame.
    <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Errr, what? How does that song answer the question? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    SaZe, type hud_fastswitch 1 into your console, and you won't have to click to select a weapon. So now instead of pressing "2" and then clicking to draw your pistol, just press "2" and your pistol will come out automatically. Almost essential, especially for lerking, fading and leap-biting.
  • the_x5the_x5 the Xzianthian Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27041Members, Constellation
    edited September 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-5kyh16h91+Sep 20 2004, 04:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (5kyh16h91 @ Sep 20 2004, 04:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Errr, what? How does that song answer the question?  <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> It doesn't. I just made a note to slap the next person to speak after my post. Hehe.

    Seriously tho... people in the NS community really need to sit down and listen to that song so they will stop this silly complain-debate.
  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    Enough with the songs. I can and will type out the complete lyrics to American Pie. Yes, you may THINK that I copy pasted them from some site.....but NAY!

    Amrican Pai 4 L1f3!
  • the_x5the_x5 the Xzianthian Join Date: 2004-03-02 Member: 27041Members, Constellation
    American Pie -- good song, lame movie (sorry but that's my opinion)

    PS: I like Wierd Al's remix of that song too, Gonna be a Jedi.
  • illhillh Join Date: 2004-08-31 Member: 31104Members
    Generally, there will always be people better than you and you need to come to terms with that and stop accusing people of scripting or hacking or exploits and such. Learn to play the game and stop throwing out random accusations. If you're still suspicious just go to a cheating death required server and/or script banned server.
  • God_KillerGod_Killer Join Date: 2004-02-16 Member: 26592Members
    The only unexplaneble thing I still see is how a marine can long jump backwards without ever looking back...I sometimes see players do that, and I can't.

    That the only trick I really can't do...maybe its scripts? lol
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