Darth Vader
<div class="IPBDescription">, the etymology and meaning of</div> Wow, I have found out something quite cool!
I have recently created a section of my map bearing more than a passing resemblance to the platform in Star Wars where it is revealed to Luke that Darth Vader is his father. So I was thinking about giving this area a name which pays homage to my 'inspiration' (or rather, credits the original that I ripped off, depending on your standpoint).
I looked up Nooooo! in Ancient Greek but thought that <i>ochi</i> didn't sound too catchy! (I already knew that it's <i>minime!</i> in Latin so I may stick with this). Then I looked at a translation for father... It came back with <i>pater</i> in Latin, <i>patir</i> in Ancient Greek and <b><i>vader</b></i> in Dutch!
I then searched for discussions on the origins of the title: <b>Darth Vader</b> and found many theories that <b>Darth</b> meant <i>dark</i>, thus giving a title of "Dark Father".
I then went downstairs to reveal this discovery to my mum, who was working away at some Norwegian (she does Viking Studies at University). We thought we might find a translation for Darth, so we looked and found that in Old Norse <i>dauthr</i> means "death" and <b><i>dauth</b></i> means "dead". Could it be that Darth Vader in fact means "Dead Father". It is true that in many languages 'dark' and 'death' have the same etymology (come from the same root) so Darth could embody both elements at the same time.
In that case, Darth Vader was a hugely suitable title because of:
- his half-human (<u>dead</u>) state.
- the fact that Luke believed his <u>father</u> to be <u>dead</u>.
- his allegiance to the <u>Dark</u> side
- his position of prestige and power within an organisation/army of in<u>vader</u>s
I'm just astounded by this revelation, I think my smilies say it all! <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I have recently created a section of my map bearing more than a passing resemblance to the platform in Star Wars where it is revealed to Luke that Darth Vader is his father. So I was thinking about giving this area a name which pays homage to my 'inspiration' (or rather, credits the original that I ripped off, depending on your standpoint).
I looked up Nooooo! in Ancient Greek but thought that <i>ochi</i> didn't sound too catchy! (I already knew that it's <i>minime!</i> in Latin so I may stick with this). Then I looked at a translation for father... It came back with <i>pater</i> in Latin, <i>patir</i> in Ancient Greek and <b><i>vader</b></i> in Dutch!
I then searched for discussions on the origins of the title: <b>Darth Vader</b> and found many theories that <b>Darth</b> meant <i>dark</i>, thus giving a title of "Dark Father".
I then went downstairs to reveal this discovery to my mum, who was working away at some Norwegian (she does Viking Studies at University). We thought we might find a translation for Darth, so we looked and found that in Old Norse <i>dauthr</i> means "death" and <b><i>dauth</b></i> means "dead". Could it be that Darth Vader in fact means "Dead Father". It is true that in many languages 'dark' and 'death' have the same etymology (come from the same root) so Darth could embody both elements at the same time.
In that case, Darth Vader was a hugely suitable title because of:
- his half-human (<u>dead</u>) state.
- the fact that Luke believed his <u>father</u> to be <u>dead</u>.
- his allegiance to the <u>Dark</u> side
- his position of prestige and power within an organisation/army of in<u>vader</u>s
I'm just astounded by this revelation, I think my smilies say it all! <!--emo&:0--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wow.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wow.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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Also, your link for vader and invaders is more than a tad, well, weak. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Haha, this one is the best
For this reason I believe it to be as valid as the rest of them. If GL (or whoever came up with the name, I'm becoming increasingly doubtful as to Lucus' actual talent following the prequel trilogy) decided to give Darth multiple meanings then it would follow suit that Vader would be just as multi-faceted.
I don't really consider that spamming. Even if I hadn't copied and pasted the thread, instead linking to this thread (or even saying check the Off Topic forum) it would still have had the same effect. I see it more as encouraging order.
[Edit] This area is due to be named the <i>Veritas Complex</i> or <i>Veritas Pylon</i> depending on how it looks once it's finished.