Make Scales Stuck At 20%

moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
edited September 2004 in Mapping Help and Troubleshooting
<div class="IPBDescription">anyone know what the deal is?</div> after a massive reworking of ns_shiva, I'm attempting to compile it, and rad is hanging on makescales. It isn't using any cpu, and there is plenty of physical memory left. Has anyone else had this happen, and is there a fix?
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  • Rendy_CZechRendy_CZech Life is a Koan Join Date: 2003-10-11 Member: 21608Members
    This happened to me when I compiled my map with these parameters: -chop 16 -texchop 32 -extra -gamma 1 -bounce 2 -dscale 4 -sparse . The compilation takes 13 hours (only rad !). The cpu and memomory were unused, but Windows reported that I have small physical memory (btw I had 2150 MB :/)
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  • moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    so, I tried it again, and this time rad crashed. . .
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  • moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    I should have looked at the logs more carefully. I got a leaf portal saw into leaf error, which is probably causing the problems with rad.
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  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-moultano+Sep 7 2004, 01:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (moultano @ Sep 7 2004, 01:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I should have looked at the logs more carefully. I got a leaf portal saw into leaf error, which is probably causing the problems with rad. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Indeed. Good luck sorting it out.
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  • moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    well, I fixed the leaf portal saw into leaf, and its still crashing on make scales...
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  • MooseMoose Join Date: 2003-05-13 Member: 16248Members
    edited September 2004
    Could you please post your rad settings.
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  • KungFuDiscoMonkeyKungFuDiscoMonkey Creator of ns_altair 日本福岡県 Join Date: 2003-03-15 Member: 14555Members, NS1 Playtester, Reinforced - Onos
    also what are your computer's specs? That might help also
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  • DrunkenMonkeyDrunkenMonkey Join Date: 2003-05-09 Member: 16165Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation
    I had a similiar problem while building ns_ayumi. That time it was caused by my "lightdata" that had exceeded 100%.
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  • moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    Here are my rad settings.
    -extra -sparse -nopaque -bounce 2 -smooth 80 -gamma 0.95 -chart -low

    I have an athlon 1800 xp with 512 megs of ram

    There's something I'm going to try next. I recently corrected my FSB speed from 100mhz to 133 mhz, which assuming the place I bought my processor from gave me the one I paid for, should be correct. However, since then windows has crashed periodically, and I've been slowly diagnosing the situations under which this occurs. Unfortunately, I corrected my bus speed and installed service pack 2 around the same time, so I'm not sure which is causing that particular problem.

    I'm going to try to underclock my processor again and see if that fixes the issue. If the problem is my amount of light data and not my bus speed, what could I do to fix that? I haven't been close to the limit on any previous compile, and I don't have a single dynamic light in the map.

    Thanks for the help.
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  • MoconnorMoconnor Join Date: 2002-07-26 Member: 1004Members
    ah I'm just after getting rid of the light data error on kama yesterday.
    I removed some of the dynamic lights in the map but also i typed in the "additional parameters" box in the rad settings in the batch compiler

    -lightdata 10000

    because it has a limit of around 6100?

    I'm not sure if it helped but you can try that
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  • BelgarionBelgarion Join Date: 2002-07-19 Member: 973Members
    try using -chop 128 and see what happens. should decrease your compile time quite substantially, but also decreases light data if i'm not mistaken.
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  • MoconnorMoconnor Join Date: 2002-07-26 Member: 1004Members
    ah yes thats another thing i did, good man Belg, i upped my -chop to 96, that cooda done it too. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • BelgarionBelgarion Join Date: 2002-07-19 Member: 973Members
    edited September 2004
    heh. yeah. i should have said "96 or 128". but i do this routinely for quick light compiles. you may also wish to take advantage of "-sparse". It will reduce your visibility matrix, and this thread is apparently all about reducing light data. ^_~

    :edit: one more note. if you're running -extra, you might want to take that out. It does make texture lights look sooo much better, but again, lots more light data. usually doubles your rad compile times too.
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  • moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts
    WOOOOHOOO!!!!

    so I just underclocked my processor, and it compiled without a hitch <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    I suspect that I'm not going to be buying an AMD processor in the near future.
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  • KesterKester Join Date: 2004-02-21 Member: 26770Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-moultano+Sep 7 2004, 03:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (moultano @ Sep 7 2004, 03:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> well, I fixed the leaf portal saw into leaf, and its still crashing on make scales... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i wudnt of thought that wud of been the problem, maps will generally run fine with one or 2 of these errors its only when u are getting alot that is becomes a problem
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  • Rendy_CZechRendy_CZech Life is a Koan Join Date: 2003-10-11 Member: 21608Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-moultano+Sep 8 2004, 12:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (moultano @ Sep 8 2004, 12:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> WOOOOHOOO!!!!

    so I just underclocked my processor, and it compiled without a hitch <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    I suspect that I'm not going to be buying an AMD processor in the near future. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I advise U buy Intel, AMD's have problem with temperature especialy in Summer when days are hot. I'm speaking from my expirience. My AthlonXP 2500+ reliably heat my room.
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  • ThaldarinThaldarin Alonzi&#33; Join Date: 2003-07-15 Member: 18173Members, Constellation
    Try and get someone trusted to compile the map on their machine ?
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  • The_Real_NemThe_Real_Nem Join Date: 2002-12-16 Member: 10900Members
    If your going to play with your memory you're going to want to test that the changes you made have not screwed up your computer. A good free memory test application can be found <a href='http://www.memtest86.com/' target='_blank'>here</a>.
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