People Who Get Offended Over The Internet
Firewater
Balance Expert Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10690Members, Constellation
Balance Expert Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10690Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">I feel sorry for them.</div> I feel really bad for people who get offended over the internet. They let text and distorted in game voice bother them. Which leads to me believe that if they get offended over the internet and get insecure when someone challenges their eStatus, what more do they have?
I see a lot in competitive play, as well as public play. Some admins on a server I used to recent like care what other people think about them on the internet. When I played there for a little while and I would stomp them, I felt bad that I was taking away their escape. So I am glad I got banned in a way, because I don't want to take away their time on that server which all of their eFriends exist. I do not wish to be the eBully. As for the competitive players, they are always so quick to defend their eRep if a post is made about them or their eFriends.
I just find it really sad, that a lot of people use the internet for their primary social situations, rather than something to do to goof off on. I think a lot of people (especially server admins) use the internet to get their sense of importance, by using their ePower over other players in the server. Those are the ones I just shake my head at.
I ask myself the question, what would these people do if they lost their internet for like a month for whatever reason?
I also ask myself whats so bad about their real life that the internet becomes more important?
I guess maybe its me, after hanging out with my friends a lot more this summer, watching some bands, gambling at Atlantic City, or just getting flat out drunk, I still wonder why people favor artificial situations over real ones.
I really feel sorry for these people, and I hope they find more to life than the internet.
Flame away.
I see a lot in competitive play, as well as public play. Some admins on a server I used to recent like care what other people think about them on the internet. When I played there for a little while and I would stomp them, I felt bad that I was taking away their escape. So I am glad I got banned in a way, because I don't want to take away their time on that server which all of their eFriends exist. I do not wish to be the eBully. As for the competitive players, they are always so quick to defend their eRep if a post is made about them or their eFriends.
I just find it really sad, that a lot of people use the internet for their primary social situations, rather than something to do to goof off on. I think a lot of people (especially server admins) use the internet to get their sense of importance, by using their ePower over other players in the server. Those are the ones I just shake my head at.
I ask myself the question, what would these people do if they lost their internet for like a month for whatever reason?
I also ask myself whats so bad about their real life that the internet becomes more important?
I guess maybe its me, after hanging out with my friends a lot more this summer, watching some bands, gambling at Atlantic City, or just getting flat out drunk, I still wonder why people favor artificial situations over real ones.
I really feel sorry for these people, and I hope they find more to life than the internet.
Flame away.
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But that may not be neccesarily true, because some people are easier to provoke then others.
I really hope these people just open their eyes and break away from these little communities.
Its ok to have a group to "hang out with" online, but if thats all people do, they are missing out SO much. Thats what I see in online gaming, especially in CS and NS.
NS is almost worse in a way, because it promotes so much teamwork, and the best way to develop that is to play with people over and over again. By doing that an eRelationship builds, and sometimes consumes the individual.
But this is just my opinion.
but yeah, people who get offended over the internet or ingame need to relize that it's just a game, or it's just the net.
and if you got banned from "a" server then just find another, it's well within there rights to ban you for whatever they wanted, becuase it's *there* server
I thought that I'd be crippled without the internet when I joined the Army, but after a week, I didn't even miss it. I suppose it depends what you do online. I spend most of my time reading the news, posting on message boards, doing research and reading online comics. Trading those for actual human interaction was easy enough.
Besides, why would I obsess over virtual treasure and my DoD reputation when I can be out scoring plenty of poontang?
However, it's 'holier-than-thou' moments like this that give you the so-called "vet" attitude that rubs so many the wrong way. Just that fact that you felt the need to vent about something like this shows that you indeed also feel sore for these events that occurred to you over the internet. It would be hard for anyone to see otherwise.
That said, my first comment still stands: I enjoyed playing with you greatly. Just stop thinking that you're superior to everyone short of OMG ROMANO and perhaps people will warm up a bit more, eh?
You don't have to apologize, because I don't care.
I thought that I'd be crippled without the internet when I joined the Army, but after a week, I didn't even miss it. I suppose it depends what you do online. I spend most of my time reading the news, posting on message boards, doing research and reading online comics. Trading those for actual human interaction was easy enough.
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Because girls get old and die, while a screenshot of 167-2 on dod_avalanche lasts forever?
It's important to remember, that the internet isn't just bits of text, but there are real people on the other end. When you cuss someone out online, it's just like someone doing so to your face.
Fire, I can't address your particular situation on said server because I don't know all the details. But, I think judging by the maturity of the admins there, that you had to do something more than display skill to get banned.
Ironically enough, this post seems to be an attempt at an eEgo boost. IE: I don't need that server, and the people there are all losers anyway. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but it appears you're letting the actions of real people over the net alter your state of mind, which further proves my point that there are very real meatbags on the other end of all this copper.
Also when someone gets cursed out over the internet its not the same, because in real life, there is body language, tone of voice (better than in game comm), and other actions (glasses breaking, tables overturned, punches thrown). Where on the internet some 12 year old who would never dream of cursing you out, can do so online via safety of their computer.
Since I study Psychology, this subject is intriguing to me, which is why I posted about it.
I am recording who gets offended and who doesn't, and who is quick to defend their eFriends.
Please continue.
We live organic realities interacting with people physically. We live digital realities when we interact with people over the internet, over the phone, etc. Those realities usually meld together in many aspects. It's only natural that someone who loves to game would become great friends with other people who loved to game.
Why are you posting on an internet forum about people who get offended over the internet? Simply put, because it's a digital issue that you want digital input from. Interacting with people digitally vs physically isn't really all that different. It's still people you are interacting with. If you offend someone over the internet, who says that you would not have offended them in your physical reality?
Also, people who take games seriously enough often end up in the CPL and other competitive leagues, competing for $$$$$$$.
Digital reality and physical reality, while they have many differences, still involve people at their core. Don't be so surprised if you offend someone over the internet.
Edit* You are injecting your bias towards people with your study in Psychology, which is creating an unhealthy combination in your post. Instead of being so biased, step back and analyze your own opinions, where they come from, why they exist, etc.
You need to do a serious edit of this topic, taking into account that digital reality is becoming a whole new aspect of p2p interaction, instead of acting condescending towards it. Your personal bias throws the thread off from the very beginning. A partial education in Psychology does not mean you have any more understanding of people than most other forum goers.
Also when someone gets cursed out over the internet its not the same, because in real life, there is body language, tone of voice (better than in game comm), and other actions (glasses breaking, tables overturned, punches thrown). Where on the internet some 12 year old who would never dream of cursing you out, can do so online via safety of their computer.
Since I study Psychology, this subject is intriguing to me, which is why I posted about it.
I am recording who gets offended and who doesn't, and who is quick to defend their eFriends.
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That's cool - as long as you're not sore about it nobody has anything to worry about. You're certainly not breaking any hearts back at this 'certain community,' because your unbanning was controversial to begin with.
Now I'm not going to apologize, because I truly don't think that you deserve any sort of apology (nor would you appreciate it if someone tossed you one).
But hey - if you have a reason for all this, power to you. Just realize that this topic probably won't drag the trolls out of the woodwork as you'd hoped it would <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Whats even more interesting that several admins of the server I anonymously mentioned are viewing/viewed the thread.
Anyways about your digital and physical world. Yes there are real people over the internet, but do they act like themselves online as they do in the physical world? That goes back to my point about the 12 year old. Perhaps the online persona is something they subconsciously aspire to in the physical world. I.E. the admin of the server has eImportance and eStatus, but perhaps do not get status or importance in the physical world, but they strongly desire/feel they deserve it so? Perhaps their ePopularity replaces the desire to fit in with physical world beings, where you are judged by your attitude, style of dress, posture, whether you are good looking or not, etc... where as online people (unless a picture is posted) can only judge you by your attitude and thoughts. I wonder if there is research I can read about this, or maybe I can use this for my senior thesis. If anyone knows anything about "Internet Addiction" or anything related please point me in the right direction.
But to say that people who take games seriously enough goto the CPL is false. Because there are plenty of people who take games seriously, but lack the talent to do anything involving the CPL with their dedication. I'm sorry to say that there are a lot of dedicated players that aren't talented.
I disagree. There are plenty of people who shoot their mouths off online that wouldn't say a word in real life. It's not just like doing it to somebody's face. The person is so far removed from the other that it's not like you're picking a fight in a bar. I actually did a paper on deviance on the Internet for a sociology class. Since the Internet is shrouded in anonymity, sanctioning is virtually impossible. If you kick somebody off of a gaming server, there are still hundreds of servers to go to.
I don't think this is about ego boosting. Reality is superior to virtual space. Internet interaction is so inferior to real life that an e-insult isn't worth a second look, let alone behemothic rage. That's why posts by people who just flip out about an internet argument are so funny.
You don't understand, people DO take offense, people DO have feelings. It's not because their omgpathetic, but it's because they are more sensitive then others.
Take (I hope he never reads this) my brother for example. He is the most emotional guy ever. He gets **** off, sad, happy, excited, and everything else really easy. It's just the way he is. Not all people are exactly the same, were all different. Some people don't like to go out (Agoraphobic) etc etc.
Personally, most of the people in my age are the dumbest pos "OMGAWD I DO DRUGZ" ever. That's why I hang out with other (more mature) people, but some people just don't match others, so they can go on the internet and find whoever they want and have fun. **** someone off? No matter, you can just block them and move on. It's that easy. There's no awkward "I hate you but you still live around me" thingy. It's just, easier for them. Not all people who live on the internet are pathetic losers.
The difficulty here is that you are placing everyone who gets offended by anything over the internet in the "pathetic" category, which is detrimental to any objectivity you might have had, and therefore limits the objectivity of which most people feel they can answer you.
Internet deviance and dishonesty is a hyped up phenomenon, overall. There are always a segment of lowly young teens who lie about themselves online, but reality check: most people don't do that.
Is overreacting in physical reality just as pathetic as digital reality? I've always thought so. In both cases, there is a manipulator and a manipulatee, if you'll excuse the Engrish. While physical reality bears more consequence, digital reality has its own set of rules. Someone challenging your integrity over the internet is, if you spend any amount of time participating in that particular internet activity, as bad or worse than in real life.
The point is, if you spend a great deal of time online, your digital reality is stronger than someone who doesn't spend much time online, therefore the people you interact with online mean more to you, just like in any physical situation. The sheer amount of varying opinion on this issue is astounding, since people have so many varying degrees of online interactivity.
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It sounds more like he's manic depressive to me.
As for relationships online, I tend to view them similar to correspondences back during the 17th to 19th century. During those times, people would write to each other on a regular basis sharing opinions, news, and debates, love poems, etc to each other even if they knew each other only distantly. Mark Twain, Lovecraft, and many major writers and philosophers did this. With the rise of the internet, these correspondences has grown as they have kept their old advantages, but are now even faster in replies, instantly with things like IM.
Same can be said for things like riots, people feel safe in those large numbers until they start getting singled out by the police.
The difficulty here is that you are placing everyone who gets offended by anything over the internet in the "pathetic" category, which is detrimental to any objectivity you might have had, and therefore limits the objectivity of which most people feel they can answer you.
Internet deviance and dishonesty is a hyped up phenomenon, overall. There are always a segment of lowly young teens who lie about themselves online, but reality check: most people don't do that.
Is overreacting in physical reality just as pathetic as digital reality? I've always thought so. In both cases, there is a manipulator and a manipulatee, if you'll excuse the Engrish. While physical reality bears more consequence, digital reality has its own set of rules. Someone challenging your integrity over the internet is, if you spend any amount of time participating in that particular internet activity, as bad or worse than in real life.
The point is, if you spend a great deal of time online, your digital reality is stronger than someone who doesn't spend much time online, therefore the people you interact with online mean more to you, just like in any physical situation. The sheer amount of varying opinion on this issue is astounding, since people have so many varying degrees of online interactivity. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
The question is, if they spend more time on the digital world, is it a reality? Eventually these teenagers who sit at home have to interact with the real world eventually. When they find the real world rejecting, and they most likely will otherwise they would most likely socialize better in Real life with having the internet as a secondary thing, rather than just being on the internet all the time, where they will just retreat to their "Dreamland" life, of where they have their online communities that are comforting through digital text and internet voice communication.
Its nothing like the comfort of when you screw up and you have your significant other comforting you and singing you a sweet song, someone that shows you they care.
The best the internet has to offer is bluemountain.com and its equivalents.
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Who is Firewater?
AM I RIGHT OR WHAT
In most people's minds, there is a balance between physical and digital. We attach many of our physical attitudes to our digital self-image (whoops, Matrix philosophy there). Some of these attitudes are better expanded upon than others, so the distortion of ourselves that the physical world sees is different than the distortion that the digital world sees.
Some people find that the digital environment allows them more control over who they are, and they make tweaks to themselves. Sometimes these personality "tweaks" end up with them attaching themselves too much to the digital reality, therefore they lose balance. Those people must find their appropriate balance again. Most people on the internet are fairly balanced, with maybe one or two aspects that a slightly off.
My best friend got deeply involved with a chat recently that allowed him to assume a role of leadership and respect that he usually did not receive in the real world. Is that a positive thing? Well, yeah. He's not dependent on the room for his livelihood, but it is allowing him to learn new skills that he can apply to the physical world.
The key is just to work towards balancing the two out.
In most people's minds, there is a balance between physical and digital. We attach many of our physical attitudes to our digital self-image (whoops, Matrix philosophy there). Some of these attitudes are better expanded upon than others, so the distortion of ourselves that the physical world sees is different than the distortion that the digital world sees.
Some people find that the digital environment allows them more control over who they are, and they make tweaks to themselves. Sometimes these personality "tweaks" end up with them attaching themselves too much to the digital reality, therefore they lose balance. Those people must find their appropriate balance again. Most people on the internet are fairly balanced, with maybe one or two aspects that a slightly off.
My best friend got deeply involved with a chat recently that allowed him to assume a role of leadership and respect that he usually did not receive in the real world. Is that a positive thing? Well, yeah. He's not dependent on the room for his livelihood, but it is allowing him to learn new skills that he can apply to the physical world.
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Why did he not get respect otherwise? Problem with real life is that if you are of undesirable appearence or have low self esteem, people will tend not to respect you.
I just find it sad that most of these people who spend their lives on the internet won't have any good stories to tell their kids about concerts, fights they've been in, sneaking around and getting into a little trouble, stuff thats interesting.
Instead it they can talk about a "Fierce" arguements (the ones where people are typing so fast they make grammatical errors) over a digital media.
Call me what you want, because in the end, its just the internet <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->