Ns_marinerisb6

unslordunslord Members Join Date: 2004-06-01 Member: 29059Posts: 23
new layout
The previous version of marineris had a pretty bad layout so I decided to remake the entire layout. I went through tons of rejected layouts before I got this one that was decently balanced. I acutally built all those rejected layouts too, argh. I'd like to mention that the equilateral triangle layout doesn't work, distances are too long, unless you have level over level, so don't try it. ( Equilateral triangle layout is supposed to eliminate the middle hive lockdown that always happens.)

Its taken forever...actually a month, heh.

So here is a new version that has a totally new layout and new rooms. Alot of the old rooms remain with variations as well though. No more silly jumps, abundance of cramped rooms or crazy amounts of ladders. There probably still needs to be tweaks, but it should play pretty decently now, as I had layout help from clanners. ( Thanks renholder.) Seige distances are appropriatly accounted for, vent placement makes sense and a couple of weld spots that make a difference.Oh yea, aliens can actually do some interesting strats now like sensory.

I can still add more detail, like in red control, consoles etc, (i still got 4% of clipnodes left heh) but the occasional console pacing I think makes the level feel like an abandoned mystic (possibly alien influence) facility built long ago.


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Hallways mostly have this style
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First res marines will encounter
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New incubator Hive
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New red control
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Pipe Core Subsystem
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The rest of the screenshots can be viewed here

You can download beta6 here

Comments

  • StarchyStarchy Members, Constellation Join Date: 2003-04-21 Member: 15727Posts: 1,295 Fully active user
    edited August 2004
    Wow! That looks very nice and atmospheric. I'll have to try this one out. Keep up the good work!

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    I love these two especially.
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  • KalessinKalessin Members, Constellation Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17554Posts: 154
    This looks excellent. I love the unique design and lighting, downloading right now to have a better look marine.gif
  • KesterKester Members, Constellation Join Date: 2004-02-21 Member: 26770Posts: 729
    looking nice, downloading it now, btw can u gamma correct ur shots properly plz, it takes alot out of ur pictures doing it the way u seem to be

    in photoshop goto image-->adjustments-->levels

    then adjust the 3rd input level to sumwhere between 180 and 230 im not sure what the calculation u need is but sumwhere around there shud make ur pics look alot better
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  • moultanomoultano Creator of ns_shiva. Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Shadow, WC 2013 - Gold, NS2 Community Developer, Pistachionauts Join Date: 2002-12-14 Member: 10806Posts: 4,219 Advanced user
    Looks great. I'd love to play it if anyone is going to host it.
  • KalessinKalessin Members, Constellation Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17554Posts: 154
    A few issues, nothing major. (Sorry for the poor quality images)

    Stuck issue, the player can get stuck at the base of each of these pillars.
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    Overlapping brushes here, it looks a little ugly and is fairly noticeable.
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    Finally (Probably not an issue) Marines can strafe up the slanted supports in this area and get onto the roof - not sure whether you intended for marines to get up there or not.
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    Great work, this could easily become an official map if it plays well. My only suggestion to you is to maybe add some more ambient sounds, it would add so much more to the map.
  • Lt_GravityLt_Gravity Members Join Date: 2003-04-28 Member: 15909Posts: 1,594
    I have to admit that THIS ONE is the ONLY map using this texture set I really like. very good work. I will try to convince our server admin to add it for a decent playtest.

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    Give custom maps a chance!
  • MrBenMrBen ns_eclipse, ns_veil caretaker Members Join Date: 2002-11-14 Member: 8575Posts: 1,119
    wow.
    nL-Benjamin - Periodic map contributor, forum troll, retired arrogant clanner and commanding guru.

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  • ReeseReese Members Join Date: 2003-05-08 Member: 16143Posts: 701
    I love the conspicuous absence of blue lighting. I personally seem to go nuts over blue lights so its nice to see a map done well entirely without them. Hopefully you've succeeded in making this version play better than the previous. GJ all around.
    Needs more cowbell
  • paranoid1paranoid1 Members Join Date: 2003-06-07 Member: 17072Posts: 96
    This map looks great. I will see if i can convince the server i play on to host it

    Good work
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  • CloistCloist Members Join Date: 2004-02-04 Member: 26041Posts: 65
    Very nice, I am a huge fan of this map and have been trying to get more people to play it. This will be going on the server i admin on biggrin-fix.gif

    Really good to see a new update.
  • CobletCoblet Members Join Date: 2004-01-31 Member: 25803Posts: 365
    edited August 2004
    Holy ****

    EDIT: More weld points biggrin-fix.gif
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    cobblemap - 0.0000456%
  • dPPdPP Members, Constellation Join Date: 2003-09-27 Member: 21272Posts: 384
    wow this looks very nice indeed, im downloading it right now tounge.gif

    might sort a few playtests out
  • SeraphyGoodnessSeraphyGoodness Members Join Date: 2003-06-05 Member: 17029Posts: 166 Fully active user
    Fantastic map, looks great and really atmospheric. Dare I say it, it has something of the doom3s about it (probably all those shadows) I'd be cacking myself wandering round that as a marine. biggrin-fix.gif

    couple of issues though..

    first, some of the vents have very dark entrances, and then suddenly turn, still in the dark. makes it hard to navigate in a hurry.

    second, many of the vents in the hives give direct lines of fire onto the hive itself (Both of Incubator's vents, and the left and right vents in The Cathedral. kinda makes it too easy for JP/HMG. perhaps something could be done to avoid this?

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  • ssjyodassjyoda Members, Squad Five Blue Join Date: 2002-03-05 Member: 274Posts: 877 Fully active user
    edited August 2004
    only thing i dont like is incubator hive.. seems too flat. compared to the rest of the map that is, which has floor lvl changes everywhere.

    everything else i love, its very unique. i have some doubts about the center hive, seems to have 1 entrance.
  • unslordunslord Members Join Date: 2004-06-01 Member: 29059Posts: 23
    edited August 2004
    QUOTE

    first, some of the vents have very dark entrances, and then suddenly turn, still in the dark. makes it hard to navigate in a hurry.

    second, many of the vents in the hives give direct lines of fire onto the hive itself (Both of Incubator's vents, and the left and right vents in The Cathedral. kinda makes it too easy for JP/HMG. perhaps something could be done to avoid this?



    Hmm your right, some of the vents need better lighting spacing although the entrances of them are meant to be dark. As for jp/hmg, maybe i'll put covers over the vents so that you have to go down to get out.
  • DerangedDeranged Members Join Date: 2004-04-07 Member: 27774Posts: 133
    *sniffle* uns it's beautiful I thought you died after the last thread no update from you at all smile-fix.gif

    nice to see some changes smile-fix.gif
  • ssjyodassjyoda Members, Squad Five Blue Join Date: 2002-03-05 Member: 274Posts: 877 Fully active user
    i love to see this map go official, its so unique but still fits. also very purdeh..
  • coriscoris Members, Constellation Join Date: 2003-07-08 Member: 18034Posts: 2,063
    Very nice, Im afraid it wont play well though, because it seems like the aliens will have a hard time holding nodes since their hives are so far away from the center of the map.

    Architechture looks great though *jawdrop*
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