Severe Fps Drop With Light Effects
AileStrike
Join Date: 2004-08-24 Member: 30864Members
Join Date: 2004-08-24 Member: 30864Members
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in opengl mode my fps allways seems to drop to like 4 fps whenever a light effect is in my feild of view even if it's through a wall, light effects such as flashlights and phase gates. i have dynamic lights turned off and i've tryed all the stuff it says to do int he fps guides and nothing can fix it, this drop doesen't happen in d3d mode, but my fps is only like 13 in d3d and it's not really playable. And i've looked everywhere within my video card settings and i can't find any information about turning off vsync. and i have all the latest drivers for my hardware.
for information purpose here are some of my comps specs
processor: celeron 700 mhz
ram: 191 mb
video card: intel 810 built in chipset (dxdiag says it's 32 mb vram)
more infomation on request.
for information purpose here are some of my comps specs
processor: celeron 700 mhz
ram: 191 mb
video card: intel 810 built in chipset (dxdiag says it's 32 mb vram)
more infomation on request.
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for information purpose here are some of my comps specs
processor: celeron 700 mhz
ram: 191 mb
video card: intel 810 built in chipset (dxdiag says it's 32 mb vram)
more infomation on request. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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oo be highly honest with you sir, I don't think your going to get anything more out of your computer thant what you already do. That cpu is highly outdated. I know you posted here for help but there isn't much help that can be given on this topic.
As NS takes a lot more to run than most games on the HL Engine.
Another thing is the ram, I bet your running windows xp on that rig and the ram alone windows xp needs to run, is I think 256? Correct me If I'm wrong, but with that system you wont get much help and If you do maybe a gain of 5 fps or so.
Your better off going to newegg.com and spending about 300 bucks or so for an athlon 1.4ghz and atleast a stick of 512 of aleast ddr2100, and that still wont even get you far. Oh yes, and atleast a 9600XT
good luck!
EDIT: I would also like to add, since the upgrade and move over to the steam platform, steam isn't user friendly for systems like yours either.
I'm not sure If it would or not, but Windows XP might be causing you problems because the lack of ram you have in your system right now, as I believe It takes around a min of 256 to have it run stable and you only have 191 you say.
I honestly dunno, but maybe someone else can help you better than I can.
Don't listen to the people with cash to spend on a powerful computer, because thats the suggestion they'll always make: spend cash on a powerful computer.
Its all about tweaking. I'd suggest the guide I used, but readyroom.org is down at the moment, So google for some good Windows XP tweaking guides.
Some tips:
Defrag regularily. It helps. Alot.
Before gaming, restart the computer to wipe the memory. Make sure you don't have any useless things starting up upon boot.
Of course, I have 3 computers; and the one I game on is exclusively for that. So I don't install useless stuff on it that would steal my precious CPU cycles. Its completely streamlined (besides the fact that it uses WinXP) for gaming purposes so that I can squeeze every ounce of what little power it has. Its alot easier this way, but if you use that computer for everything, its going to be alot harder.
EDIT: I suggest paying just $39 for this card at <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-145-080&depa=0' target='_blank'>NEWEGG</a> . With a new <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-112-169&depa=0' target='_blank'>PROCESSER</a> at $57 and this <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-476R&depa=0' target='_blank'>Cheap Mobo</a> at $29.
Total $125.
And if you want Throw in a Stick of 256 mb<a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-141-002&depa=0' target='_blank'>RAM</a> for an additonal $42
EDIT: I suggest paying just $39 for this card at <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-145-080&depa=0' target='_blank'>NEWEGG</a> . With a new <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-112-169&depa=0' target='_blank'>PROCESSER</a> at $57 and this <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-476R&depa=0' target='_blank'>Cheap Mobo</a> at $29.
Total $125.
And if you want Throw in a Stick of 256 mb<a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-141-002&depa=0' target='_blank'>RAM</a> for an additonal $42 <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I didn't say It dealt with the OS
I was saying
low slow ram= slows down your video card
You could have the best vid card out in the world, but if you only have a celeron 700mhz with 191 mb of ram you wont get **** for fps I should know
Before I updated I had a athlon 1.2ghz and a radeon 9800XT avg fps was 60 since I have upgraded to a 2.2ghz athlon64 1mb cache I have since doubled the fps.
If you think it is only THE VIDEO CARD i suggest you do more research before giving advice that wont help.
His whole system needs upgraded.
Another thing to note is that it upgrading the cpu MAY be more effective than upgrading the video card. After that, any 64mb+ video card should run NS fine. Be sure to buy one from ATI or NVidia, since they are the best in almost everyone's opinion.
Edit: Nice sig [STD] Pr0x7 <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
so i've gotta find free alternatives...thats why i plan on formatting and just starting over with widnows 2000 since xp has been really really buggy the last month or so as i mentoned earlier.
oh and this isn't on like every map, most maps are totally fine (co maps since phase lags me down) like co_core, it's just with areas that have a special light effect or something, flashlights included.
<a href='http://www.csbanana.com/csb_page.banana?page=158' target='_blank'>http://www.csbanana.com/csb_page.banana?page=158</a>
There is another vid performance prog that some like to run and its called hltoolz.
<a href='http://www.hltoolz.com/' target='_blank'>http://www.hltoolz.com/</a>
That might help u get some extra fps.
The readyroom that Lito refered to is good site too.
<a href='http://www.readyroom.org/rrfeatures/tweak/perfguide_1.php' target='_blank'>http://www.readyroom.org/rrfeatures/tweak/perfguide_1.php</a>
One of the programs that they recommend is page file defrag. Runs well and is small, and FREE.
<a href='http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/pagedefrag.shtml' target='_blank'>http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/pagedefrag.shtml</a>
GL
EDIT: I suggest paying just $39 for this card at <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-145-080&depa=0' target='_blank'>NEWEGG</a> . With a new <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-112-169&depa=0' target='_blank'>PROCESSER</a> at $57 and this <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-476R&depa=0' target='_blank'>Cheap Mobo</a> at $29.
Total $125.
And if you want Throw in a Stick of 256 mb<a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-141-002&depa=0' target='_blank'>RAM</a> for an additonal $42 <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I didn't say It dealt with the OS
I was saying
low slow ram= slows down your video card
You could have the best vid card out in the world, but if you only have a celeron 700mhz with 191 mb of ram you wont get **** for fps I should know
Before I updated I had a athlon 1.2ghz and a radeon 9800XT avg fps was 60 since I have upgraded to a 2.2ghz athlon64 1mb cache I have since doubled the fps.
If you think it is only THE VIDEO CARD i suggest you do more research before giving advice that wont help.
His whole system needs upgraded. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I didn't say it was only the video card that needed upgrading... see <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->EDIT: I suggest paying just $39 for this card at <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-145-080&depa=0' target='_blank'>NEWEGG</a> . With a new <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-112-169&depa=0' target='_blank'>PROCESSER</a> at $57 and this <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-476R&depa=0' target='_blank'>Cheap Mobo</a> at $29.
Total $125.
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
EDIT: I suggest paying just $39 for this card at <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-145-080&depa=0' target='_blank'>NEWEGG</a> . With a new <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-112-169&depa=0' target='_blank'>PROCESSER</a> at $57 and this <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-476R&depa=0' target='_blank'>Cheap Mobo</a> at $29.
Total $125.
And if you want Throw in a Stick of 256 mb<a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-141-002&depa=0' target='_blank'>RAM</a> for an additonal $42 <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I didn't say It dealt with the OS
I was saying
low slow ram= slows down your video card
You could have the best vid card out in the world, but if you only have a celeron 700mhz with 191 mb of ram you wont get **** for fps I should know
Before I updated I had a athlon 1.2ghz and a radeon 9800XT avg fps was 60 since I have upgraded to a 2.2ghz athlon64 1mb cache I have since doubled the fps.
If you think it is only THE VIDEO CARD i suggest you do more research before giving advice that wont help.
His whole system needs upgraded. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I didn't say it was only the video card that needed upgrading... see <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->EDIT: I suggest paying just $39 for this card at <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-145-080&depa=0' target='_blank'>NEWEGG</a> . With a new <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-112-169&depa=0' target='_blank'>PROCESSER</a> at $57 and this <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-476R&depa=0' target='_blank'>Cheap Mobo</a> at $29.
Total $125.
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i want to buy a new video card i'k sure that'll solve all my problems but right now i have $0 thats right ZERO so i can't spend any money whatsoever.
I run on a 700mhz Pen 3, 128 mb ram, and crap 32 mb no-name card. I still get a very good frame rate to with 20 skulks jumping around and nades spamming all around.
Most likley its some sort of software issue. Not insuffiecient hardware. Especially if certain lights are the only thing that can make it drop. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I run on a 700mhz Pen 3, 128 mb ram, and crap 32 mb no-name card. I still get a very good frame rate to with 20 skulks jumping around and nades spamming all around.
Most likley its some sort of software issue. Not insuffiecient hardware. Especially if certain lights are the only thing that can make it drop. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused-fix.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused-fix.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
no i went on my video chipsets site intel
and they said that theres an issue where dynamic lights drop fps alot
makes sence consideirng my fps drops when looking at areas with special lights like people using flashlights or phase gates and grenades, even with dynamic light flicked off in the options it still seems to be on in the game prehaps it's a bug or something.
I think thats the exact same video card i have.