First Avp Film Review I've Seen....

ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody's near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
edited August 2004 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">And oh dear.</div> I'm devastated to say, as I pretty much match the first two paragraphs. Also, the new trailers I agree with, the Predators do look like Power Rangers bad guys. Oh well.... C'est la vie.

Enjoy.

<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->"Dear God, this isn't happening."

That's what I kept saying to myself while I sat through 'AvP.' I'm still saying it.

To start off, I've been a life-long fan of both franchises. The first two 'Alien' installments remain two of my all-time favorite films. They're what turned me onto the horror genre. Hell, I even dug 'Alien 3' and 'Resurrection'...warts n' all. And I worship and adore BOTH 'Predator' movies. I know these six films inside and out. I know the name of every single character. I can quote every line of dialogue.

I've been waiting impatiently for over a decade for this film. I bought all the comic books. I played all the video games. This was a match made in fanboy heaven...and I wanted to see a big-screen adaptation more than anything. Too bad Paul Anderson: Dream Rapist had to come in and single-handidly destroy everything I love in a quick 100 minutes.

Why does the movie suck? Where do I begin?!?!

First off, this does not feel like an 'Alien' or 'Predator' film. It feels like 'Jurassic Park IV' with Aliens and Predators in place of dinosaurs.

The characters? Not a memorable one in the whole lot. You won't find another Ripley, Hudson...or even a Danny-Boy. Lex is one of the most generic and dull heroines to stumble through a feature film...and surprisingly, the supporting cast displays even less energy. Even Lance Henriksen - our one ray of sunshine - isn't in the film long...and does very little.

There isn't a single good or fresh idea in the script. Hell, I thought the whole pyramid/training-ground concept was pretty sweet...until Anderson started crafting his own mythology around it. I won't spoil anything, but let's just say that it's stupid beyond words.

Now...about the PG-13 rating, which I tried so hard to ignore: IT SHOWS!!! God, does it show! Most of the violence in this film is not directed towards Aliens or Predators...but HUMANS. When it's time for a chestbursting or a tongue-death, all we get is a typical cut away. Gone is the colorful profanity that was so much fun to listen to. Even the token "ugly muther****er" line gets cut off half-way through. This is exactly what we all feared: A franchise film that looks and feels as if it were made for little kids. I'm not saying an R-rating would've automatically made this good (far from it)...but it would've at least given us some fun carnage.

The fights between the beasts are so badly shot and edited, I didn't care for one solitary second. It didn't stir up one bit of emotion in my inner-fanboy. And the creatures look HORRIBLE. The Aliens seemed okay...but the Predators are absolutely wretched. They look like goofy WWF wrestlers and in no way resemble or act like what we saw in the other films. It's really hard not to chuckle whenever they appear onscreen.

I won't even get into the continuity errors, and just plain bad ideas, that saturate this film. Let's just say, that it lived up to all my fears...and created some new ones.

Paul Anderson has not made a movie for the fans. He's taken a beloved franchise, stripped it of it's soul, and marketed it to 10-year-old boys. I've liked many of his films and I've been defending him for years. I was even excited when he was announced as director, while most people groaned. But all the naysayers were right.

Out of all my brutal movie disappointments, this ranks a staunch #1.

**** you, Paul Anderson. I hope you rot in Hell.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

EDIT : Looks like the giants got involved, just like we feared. I hope you're all ready for 6 months of AvP Lunchboxes, Posters, bad quotes.... what a way to waste a liscense, and make huge sums of cash.

The Almighty Dollar > Creativity, once again.

- Shockwave
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  • rabbityrabbity Join Date: 2003-07-02 Member: 17866Members
    ohnoes!!!1
    RIP avp D:
  • RyoOhkiRyoOhki Join Date: 2003-01-26 Member: 12789Members
    edited August 2004
    Oh dear. This is what I feared from the moment I saw the new clips from apple.com. The fights just seemed...pathetic. The acting looked *terrible*. And now it seems our worst fears have come to light.

    EDIT: Btw, got a link for the review? I'd like to spread the misery around on IRC <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Seph_KimaraSeph_Kimara Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19359Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Paul Anderson: Dream Rapist<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    That is just gold.
  • CommunistWithAGunCommunistWithAGun Local Propaganda Guy Join Date: 2003-04-30 Member: 15953Members
    This is why I feel that no video game should be a movie, because of the visual sodomy it provides
  • OrganoXOrganoX Join Date: 2004-03-21 Member: 27473Members
    Im going to watch the movie before i take some inferences and not from a single review.
  • RyoOhkiRyoOhki Join Date: 2003-01-26 Member: 12789Members
    edited August 2004
    I can't take credit for the following line:

    "With Paul W.S. Andersson on board...I'm going to agree with the tagline: "Whoever Wins, We Lose""

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Im going to watch the movie before i take some inferences and not from a single review.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    I'll probably see the film as well. But from the previews I've seen (and I have every trailer and clip that has been released) the movie does look quite bad. This review does not exist in a vacuum; I've found 2 others from a quick google search and they are just as critical.

    *WARNING* SPOILERS

    Like this one: <a href='http://www.cinemablend.com/new.php?id=242' target='_blank'>Click</a>
  • OrganoXOrganoX Join Date: 2004-03-21 Member: 27473Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Ryo-Ohki+Aug 12 2004, 02:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ryo-Ohki @ Aug 12 2004, 02:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I'll probably see the film as well. But from the previews I've seen (and I have every trailer and clip that has been released) the movie does look quite bad. This review does not exist in a vacuum; I've found 2 others from a quick google search and they are just as critical.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    But i might like it personally, since i played StarCraft for some years now and love Predator movies, i might like this one too, and the predator looks awsome.
    Protoss + Predator = Ownage
  • V_MANV_MAN V-MAN Join Date: 2002-11-03 Member: 6217Members, Constellation
    edited August 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-CommunistWithAGun+Aug 12 2004, 12:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (CommunistWithAGun @ Aug 12 2004, 12:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> This is why I feel that no video game should be a movie, because of the visual sodomy it provides <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    It was a comic book franchise long before it was made into a game tho

    Hate to say I told you so but I pointed this out ages that AvP was gonna suck and just got flamed to death by the paul anderson fanboys.

    It was obvious from the word go that it would get a PG rating simply because it the has a larger pool of people that can go see it. My other predictions seem to be holding up tho.

    Bad plot, normal size people playing the preds when they should be really tall people, cheapo special fx that were prolly done by paul himself with a crayon an a slide rule an wooden nobody actors. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • MonkfishMonkfish Sonic-boom-inducing buttcheeks of terrifying speed&#33; Join Date: 2003-06-03 Member: 16972Members
    Why Paul....why.... <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> *cries*
  • rabbityrabbity Join Date: 2003-07-02 Member: 17866Members
    actually the preds were very tall, at least they were, in the making
  • SalvationSalvation Join Date: 2003-11-21 Member: 23300Members
    most movies these days seem to not be great anyhow, seems they run outa ideas and use comics and crap to keep people coming

    maybe the bussiance is dieing <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SurgeSurge asda4a3sklflkgh Join Date: 2002-07-14 Member: 944Members
    It's always the pretty ones that die first...
  • OrganoXOrganoX Join Date: 2004-03-21 Member: 27473Members
    Well, "Big Fish" is kinda new movie and i just love it.
  • RueRue Join Date: 2002-10-21 Member: 1564Members
    I might go see it because I have a friend that loves the Alien films.

    But now I dont want to <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • esunaesuna Rock Bottom Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15175Members, Constellation
    And a little modification later.....
  • JezpuhJezpuh Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15157Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-esuna+Aug 12 2004, 04:00 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (esuna @ Aug 12 2004, 04:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And a little modification later..... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    So true.
  • TequilaTequila Join Date: 2003-08-13 Member: 19660Members
    edited August 2004
    Wow. This is a total suprise. I thought it was going to be the smash-hit of the summer.

    Well, actually, while I thought it would be bad enough, nothing prepared me for that spoilerific review. Seriously, is Paul on crack?

    That ending is actually lifted from a random AvP script that was floating around the internet years ago; it was ridiculous to read, I can only imagine how cringeworthy it will be on celluloid.
  • coilcoil Amateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance. Join Date: 2002-04-12 Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
  • CMEastCMEast Join Date: 2002-05-19 Member: 632Members
    Reading the spoiler in the linked review (I know I shouldn't but hey, I read LotR books and the films were still worth watching) Im... well... just shocked.

    I'm still gonna see the film but I'm certainly not going to pay for it, he isn't taking my money for ruining something so pure... <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • AlcapwnAlcapwn &quot;War is the science of destruction&quot; - John Abbot Join Date: 2003-06-21 Member: 17590Members
    LOL

    Now im <i>Definetely</i> not going to see avp!
  • PerditionPerdition Join Date: 2004-07-02 Member: 29692Members
    edited August 2004
    Actually that ending in the spoiler was almost exactly like the ending to the Alien Versus Predator: Prey novel. Just replace whats her face with Machiko Noguchi and thats it. I don't see anything wrong with including that.

    And im also guessing the Predator that she befriends is the elder of the group. It's against the law that the Yautja(predators) live by for an unblooded warrior to hunt human beings. And the unblooded warriors fight the aliens to become official in the clan, thus the reason they are there, hunting aliens, and they are supervised by one or two elders...who enforce the laws of their clan even on the other planet. Which would make it okay for him to kill a human, but not one of the others.

    I just need to see the movie.
  • X_StickmanX_Stickman Not good enough for a custom title. Join Date: 2003-04-15 Member: 15533Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Ryo-Ohki+Aug 12 2004, 11:47 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ryo-Ohki @ Aug 12 2004, 11:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Oh dear. This is what I feared from the moment I saw the new clips from apple.com. The fights just seemed...pathetic. The acting looked *terrible*. And now it seems our worst fears have come to light. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Gotta say, even though i've been defending the film since i've heard about ("wait for it to come out before critizing it!"), when i watched those fight clips, my heart died a little too :s
  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
    Looks like old Paulie really did AvP good, right through the pants. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • NecroticNecrotic Big Girl&#39;s Blouse Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 53Members, NS1 Playtester
    I'll still go and see it when it finally hits Uk cinemas purely because I have too. I will begrudge handing over my money and think spiteful thoughts towards Mr Anderson.

    I knew it would suck since the kiddy rating was announced
  • POOP_AkiraPOOP_Akira Join Date: 2003-11-23 Member: 23468Members
    Many movies have been turning out like this, with the exception of a few good ones evry now and then...
  • BelgarionBelgarion Join Date: 2002-07-19 Member: 973Members
    *sniff* it makes me so sad.
    my friend and i have been playing AvP2 for how long now? then "AvP... THE MOVIE"... Yaaaaay!
    .... Power Ranger bad guys? i'm crushed. i'll be going to see it either "tomorrow morning" at 12am or tomorrow durring the middle of the day, but knowing what i know now, i enter the theater with the worst possible cenario in mind.

    Honestly, why can't they realize that they don't need to make it appeal to EVERY person, just the people who loved it in the first place? If they make the movie good, people will watch, even those who had no interest prior. Aliens and Predator franchises have a huge enough fan base anyway. The revenue from those two fan-bases alone would have been quite substantial. Too bad they can't see that.
  • Dorian_GrayDorian_Gray Join Date: 2004-02-15 Member: 26581Members, Constellation
    They lost me when I heard that instead of being in space in the future, <b>after</b> the aliens were discovered, that it would be in some underground pyramid in antarctica in the present. I think its official that every single scifi series out there has now had an ancient lost city/pyramid/temple/etc in antarctica. Creativity FTW. Then, they lost me even further with the fight scenes, and then nailed their own coffin shut with that stupid over-repeated set of lines that appears in every trailer:
    "What did you say this room was called?"
    "Sacrificial Chamber"
    (in a completely monotonous tone of course). GG AVP.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    The minute I saw Paul Anderson talking about space shurikens and making stabbing actions in that 'making of' trailer thingy I knew we were all doomed <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • OttoDestructOttoDestruct Join Date: 2002-11-08 Member: 7790Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Dorian Gray+Aug 12 2004, 12:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Dorian Gray @ Aug 12 2004, 12:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> They lost me when I heard that instead of being in space in the future, <b>after</b> the aliens were discovered, that it would be in some underground pyramid in antarctica in the present. I think its official that every single scifi series out there has now had an ancient lost city/pyramid/temple/etc in antarctica. Creativity FTW. Then, they lost me even further with the fight scenes, and then nailed their own coffin shut with that stupid over-repeated set of lines that appears in every trailer:
    "What did you say this room was called?"
    "Sacrificial Chamber"
    (in a completely monotonous tone of course). GG AVP. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    You can thank H.P. Lovecraft and the Shoggoths for that.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    ~puts cthulu down otto's pants and runs off giggling mischeviously~
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