If You Had $3000 To Build A Gaming Rig...

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu Anememone Join Date: 2002-03-23 Member: 345Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-BattleTech+Aug 6 2004, 01:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BattleTech @ Aug 6 2004, 01:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-TychoCelchuuu+Aug 6 2004, 11:14 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TychoCelchuuu @ Aug 6 2004, 11:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Wait 6 months and build a rig that's twice as fast? Well, you asked what I'd do. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    That's what I'm doing. I'm waiting until December to roll around then I'm going to spend about $1000 on an Athlon 64 system.
    The only thing I'm buying right now for my system is a nice new Raidmax Scorpio 868 with black-colored Aluminum casing. Then I'm going to put about 5 red 40cfm 80mm LED's in it, then it's going to look sick. <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-156-148&depa=1' target='_blank'>868 Scorpio</a>

    Not buying it yet, though. When I get back from vacation. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oy, bad idea alert. In 6 months you're going to want a BTX case: much much better airflow, wire management, etc. BTX is quite possibly the future, and you're going to hate yourself if you buy a tricked out case before it's time.
  • MrPinkMrPink Join Date: 2002-05-28 Member: 678Members
    People will <b>always</b> be saying "wait 6 months, x is coming out and it's going to blow everything else away". If you listened to them you'd never end up with a new pc.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-MrPink+Aug 7 2004, 11:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrPink @ Aug 7 2004, 11:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> People will <b>always</b> be saying "wait 6 months, x is coming out and it's going to blow everything else away". If you listened to them you'd never end up with a new pc. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    6 monthes is a generation in comuter time, NEVER wait for anything other than
    A. a groundbreaking advance
    B. a game that just won't come out
    C. you will have alot more moneys
    for more than a month.

    To clarify, a ground breaking advance ISN'T the next generation of CPU or video card, it would be the development of a new mobo that uses 533hgrz ram, or the next level AGP slot, or the next slot setup for the CPU's that will be paving the way in the next 3 years... Something that you won't be able to pull out and replace when it gets outdated...
  • redeemed_darknessredeemed_darkness Join Date: 2003-01-21 Member: 12565Members
    If you gettting a LCD monitor make sure it's has Response Time under 16 ms
    Digital cable is a must it improves picture qualty a fair bit

    pci-e is twice the speed of AGP <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    is pci express worth waiting for? cuz i want to get a amd cpu with pci express slots
  • DefianceDefiance Join Date: 2003-12-01 Member: 23847Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Chrono+Aug 7 2004, 10:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chrono @ Aug 7 2004, 10:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> is pci express worth waiting for? cuz i want to get a amd cpu with pci express slots <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    www.nvidia.com has information on the PCI Express technolgy.

    If I remember correctly, currently it is x2 faster then the 8x AGP bus.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Chrono+Aug 8 2004, 01:07 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chrono @ Aug 8 2004, 01:07 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> is pci express worth waiting for? cuz i want to get a amd cpu with pci express slots <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Many AMD based <a href='http://www.tyan.com/products/html/systemboards.html' target='_blank'>Tyan</a> boards have PCI-X, so you really shouldn't have to wait for it if you really want it now (it is worth waiting for, if you acctually had to wait. PCI-X will be industry standard for all high level graphics cards for the near forseeable future)
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited August 2004
    i actually go 1 step below top-of-the-line and skip around 4 generations. new tech is too expensive for the extra $, usually. and by the time the new tech is fully implemented, the generation of hw that showcased that tech can't handle it very well.

    *edit* exceptions: ram and drives (optical or hdd).
  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    i want to get a mad 64 bit with 2 pci express slots so i can do that duel 6800s thing
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Chrono+Aug 8 2004, 01:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chrono @ Aug 8 2004, 01:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i want to get a mad 64 bit with 2 pci express slots so i can do that duel 6800s thing <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    dual 6800s? are you mad?
  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
  • WheeeeWheeee Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13713Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    oh yeah, i forgot. you're also spending 3k <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    edited August 2004
    <a href='http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8spro.html' target='_blank'>here you go</a>, just have to find a place where you can acctually buy this model. Runs on dual <a href='http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_8826,00.html' target='_blank'>AMD Opteron's</a>, ATI's 64 bit workstation processor (IOW, better than an athalon 64) with a sexy maximum 16GB of DDR400 ram and 4 PCI-X slots. With this thing, you run a slight chance of acctually running realtime OpenRT software with those SLI 6800GTs. Just don't expect to much more than 2-3 FPS.

    BTW, if you end up actually building a system that uses this thing with SLI 6800GT's, you are officially expected to be THE screenshot provider of max setting for ALL new games that must be posted about on these forums...

    BTW2, this would be a great modeling PC too, your compile times would be practically non existant.
  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    edited August 2004
    you mean render times <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    if i get this set up can iget a custom forum title? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    edited August 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Chrono+Aug 8 2004, 01:42 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chrono @ Aug 8 2004, 01:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> you mean render times  <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    if i get this set up can iget a custom forum title?  <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Render times... that's right, code and maps compile, models render <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    [edit]God, this crap is exciting, I had no idea most of this hardware existed. I spit on your alien ware!
  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    hey swiftspear you think you can contact me on aim i got some more questions and need help finding a place to buy this stuff
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    edited August 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Chrono+Aug 8 2004, 01:44 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chrono @ Aug 8 2004, 01:44 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> hey swiftspear you think you can contact me on aim i got some more questions and need help finding a place to buy this stuff <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Uhh, just wait a sec, I have to DL and install trillion first <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->. If we can't talk tonight, I'll try to get a hold of you tommorrow, I'm getting really really tired <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    [edit]X that, I still have an aim install floating on my system, screenname: swiftspear96
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Aug 8 2004, 01:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Aug 8 2004, 01:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <a href='http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8spro.html' target='_blank'>here you go</a>, just have to find a place where you can acctually buy this model. Runs on dual <a href='http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_8826,00.html' target='_blank'>AMD Opteron's</a>, ATI's 64 bit workstation processor (IOW, better than an athalon 64) with a sexy maximum 16GB of DDR400 ram and 4 PCI-X slots. With this thing, you run a slight chance of acctually running realtime OpenRT software with those SLI 6800GTs. Just don't expect to much more than 2-3 FPS.

    BTW, if you end up actually building a system that uses this thing with SLI 6800GT's, you are officially expected to be THE screenshot provider of max setting for ALL new games that must be posted about on these forums...

    BTW2, this would be a great modeling PC too, your compile times would be practically non existant. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What ever happened to that Mobo in Doomey's topic that had 4CPU slots and 32GB worth of ram slots? <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • funbagsfunbags Join Date: 2003-06-08 Member: 17099Members
    Alright chrons, this is what I suggest:


    A 939 socket motherboard that can support ddr3 dual channel.

    AMD Athlon 64 3800. As far as im concerned, Opterons and FX's are more based towards server applications, handling more information and "Request" type data instead of applying textures and that kind of stuff.

    2 gigs of Dual Channel ddr3 (I like corsair, myself.)

    ATI XTC X800XT 256MB

    Audigy Platinum 7.1 Channel Sound Card

    Reserator Water Cooling system.


    <a href='http://www.xoxide.com/reserator.html' target='_blank'>http://www.xoxide.com/reserator.html</a> <-reserator


    And any of the following cases:

    <a href='http://www.xoxide.com/thxaiiilasec.html' target='_blank'>http://www.xoxide.com/thxaiiilasec.html</a>

    <a href='http://www.xoxide.com/xfulomapcst.html' target='_blank'>http://www.xoxide.com/xfulomapcst.html</a>
  • MantridMantrid Lockpick Join Date: 2003-12-07 Member: 24109Members
    Who pays >$500 for a <i>case</i>?
  • Chaos_LlamaChaos_Llama Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28124Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Aug 6 2004, 11:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Aug 6 2004, 11:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Chaos Llama+Aug 6 2004, 11:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chaos Llama @ Aug 6 2004, 11:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 3 years ago i spent $6000 on a gaming rig ... of course i didnt tell my parents thats what i was building it for ... just told them i wanted it to be good components ... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Specs? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Here are the original specs (since than ive upgraded a lot):

    (I'll add the prices too)

    First i had to purchase a basic plan to add the components to.
    <!--c1--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><!--ec1-->
    Description                                                     Price

    Special #3                                                      $1,055.74

    AMD K7 Athlon 100 PGA T-Bird                         $499.55
    w/Sock-A Standard Mobo

    61.4 Maxtor 5400RPM ATA/66                           $212.36

    STB AGP 5500 3DFX 64mb Voodoo 5                 $270.89

    DIMM 32x64 256mb 133mhz                             $203.94

    Creative Labs SoundBlaster Live Platinum 5.1     $280.16

    Altec Lansing ADA-880R Speakers                     $415.09

    17" Sony G200 .24-.25AG                                 $412.00

    250w to 300watt K7 Power Upgrade                   $20.60

    2-Year Extended Warranty                                $339.89

    CD-RW Yamaha INT 40/16/10 IDE 2100E           $406.85

    Creative Labs DVD Encore 12x                          $298.70

    Epson Stylus Photo                                           $693.19

    MS Windows 98 OEM English 2nd Ed.                  $154.50

    Powerrite Plus 300 Battery Backup                     $133.89

    HP Scanjet 4300CSE Scanner                             $224.54

    The extended warranty came in usefull since my Mobo died twice, HD died once, cpu died twice and power died once.

    Most of the components im still using in my upgraded system (Scanner, Printer, HD (which is starting to fail again :-/), CD Burner, DVD Player, Monitor and speakers).
    <!--c2--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--ec2-->
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-funbags+Aug 8 2004, 03:31 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (funbags @ Aug 8 2004, 03:31 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> AMD Athlon 64 3800. As far as im concerned, Opterons and FX's are more based towards server applications, handling more information and "Request" type data instead of applying textures and that kind of stuff. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Opterons would be what they use at pixar and other high profile 3D labs... they might not be gameing specific processors, but they'll run just as good. Plus I couldn't find a single PCI-X mobo that ran an athalon, only the opterons and pentiums...
  • Seph_KimaraSeph_Kimara Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19359Members
    edited August 2004
    I need a new comp pretty bad...or at least a better vid card/psu <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Gogo radeon 7000/VE D:
  • laggerlagger Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1805Members
    edited August 2004
    From what i've seen the best place to get prebuilt computers/laptops are from <a href='http://www.ibuypower.com' target='_blank'>COMPUTERS</a> and <a href='http://www.powernotebooks.com' target='_blank'>LAPTOPS</a>. If your putting it together yourself then go with the newegg. If anyone can show me a cheaper site for prebuilt stuff inform me please <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->.
  • MoebiusMoebius Join Date: 2002-08-01 Member: 1045Members, Constellation
    If i had $3000 spare I think I'd buy hookers instead.
  • ChronoChrono Local flyboy Join Date: 2003-08-05 Member: 18989Members
    i have a gf i dont need hoookers....
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-lagger+Aug 8 2004, 01:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (lagger @ Aug 8 2004, 01:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> From what i've seen the best place to get prebuilt computers/laptops are from <a href='http://www.ibuypower.com' target='_blank'>COMPUTERS</a> and <a href='http://www.powernotebooks.com' target='_blank'>LAPTOPS</a>. If your putting it together yourself then go with the newegg. If anyone can show me a cheaper site for prebuilt stuff inform me please <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Newegg doesn't have half the parts were talking about here, the other half it does have however... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • funbagsfunbags Join Date: 2003-06-08 Member: 17099Members
    www.pricewatch.com

    www.newegg.com is that great, guys.

    www.outpost.com is also one of my favorites, but thats just because I love Fry's electronics. And Athlon 64s All the way up to and including the 3700 are 754 pin. the 64 3800 is 939 pin, and so are the FX/opterons.
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-funbags+Aug 8 2004, 04:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (funbags @ Aug 8 2004, 04:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> www.pricewatch.com

    www.newegg.com is that great, guys.

    www.outpost.com is also one of my favorites, but thats just because I love Fry's electronics. And Athlon 64s All the way up to and including the 3700 are 754 pin. the 64 3800 is 939 pin, and so are the FX/opterons. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No, all Athlon 64's are either 939 pin or 940 pin, the name of the socket they plug into is the 'SOCKET 754'
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Chrono+Aug 8 2004, 07:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chrono @ Aug 8 2004, 07:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i have a gf i dont need hoookers.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ...LIES!!!!
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