<!--QuoteBegin-Spooge+Aug 6 2004, 12:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spooge @ Aug 6 2004, 12:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-taboofires+Aug 6 2004, 11:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (taboofires @ Aug 6 2004, 11:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Do you really need 4GB of ram? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> He's buying, what do you care? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> What application would actually require four gb's of RAM? The highest ammount of RAM anyone would really need in their computer, especially a gaming rig, would be 2gb.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Make sure you get a floppy drive, great incase of emergencies.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> What type of emergency are you referring to?
<!--QuoteBegin-BattleTech+Aug 6 2004, 04:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BattleTech @ Aug 6 2004, 04:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Spooge+Aug 6 2004, 12:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Spooge @ Aug 6 2004, 12:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-taboofires+Aug 6 2004, 11:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (taboofires @ Aug 6 2004, 11:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Do you really need 4GB of ram? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> He's buying, what do you care? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> What application would actually require four gb's of RAM? The highest ammount of RAM anyone would really need in their computer, especially a gaming rig, would be 2gb. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Wrong. I put a 10 iteration meshsmooth modifier on a simple mesh in 3dsmax and it required 26.5GB of RAM (it took 20 minutes using swap space). However, I don't know of any commercial motherboards that hold 26GB of RAM <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
If I had $3000 for a gaming rig, I'd definately get the best Athalon64, as much RAM as the motherboard can hold, an X800XT Platinum, some nice SATA RAID (250GB drives no less), a kickass sound card (Turtle Beach Santa Cruz probably), some nice 7.1 surroud sound speakers, and DEFINATELY a second monitor. Oh, and use the rest to get a sweet case and mod it up.
If I recall correctly, the Santa Cruz doesn't support 7.1 surround. I myself am on the brink of scrapping the idea of risking incompatibility between the Athlon 64 and the Audigy 2 ZS and simply getting a SC and a nice headset.
<!--QuoteBegin-Chrono+Aug 6 2004, 03:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chrono @ Aug 6 2004, 03:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i guess ill just wait a bit as some of you suggested... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Or get a 'good' but not extreme gaming rig and invest the remaining $1,500
current specs amd 2100 + 512 ddr pc 2700 ram geforce 4 ti 4600 and some 60 gig hard drive no idea what it is tho <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Chrono+Aug 6 2004, 04:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chrono @ Aug 6 2004, 04:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> current specs amd 2100 + 512 ddr pc 2700 ram geforce 4 ti 4600 and some 60 gig hard drive no idea what it is tho <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> err...umm With those specs, why not just save the entire $3000?
<!--QuoteBegin-i'm lost+Aug 6 2004, 03:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (i'm lost @ Aug 6 2004, 03:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you do get a new computer, can you donate that one to me? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> sorry no because itll go into my lan pile so when i got friends over we can have a nice round of deathmatch <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Chrono+Aug 6 2004, 05:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chrono @ Aug 6 2004, 05:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-i'm lost+Aug 6 2004, 03:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (i'm lost @ Aug 6 2004, 03:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If you do get a new computer, can you donate that one to me? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> sorry no because itll go into my lan pile so when i got friends over we can have a nice round of deathmatch <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> whatever happened to BYOC lans?
some people dont have very good computers so i let them use my old ones <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> im kinda generous in that way
3 years ago i spent $6000 on a gaming rig ... of course i didnt tell my parents thats what i was building it for ... just told them i wanted it to be good components ...
<!--QuoteBegin-Chaos Llama+Aug 6 2004, 11:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Chaos Llama @ Aug 6 2004, 11:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> 3 years ago i spent $6000 on a gaming rig ... of course i didnt tell my parents thats what i was building it for ... just told them i wanted it to be good components ... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Specs?
make sure the mobo supports socket 940, for it is the future.
PCI-X too.
heres one for you; <a href='http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8qspro.html' target='_blank'>http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8qspro.html</a>
the most powerful commercially avaliable motherboard i can find. this "PC" would be able to run four NS servers and these forums. also supports 32gigs of ram.
<!--QuoteBegin-Zel+Aug 7 2004, 02:10 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zel @ Aug 7 2004, 02:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> make sure the mobo supports socket 940, for it is the future.
PCI-X too.
heres one for you; <a href='http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8qspro.html' target='_blank'>http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8qspro.html</a>
the most powerful commercially avaliable motherboard i can find. this "PC" would be able to run four NS servers and these forums. also supports 32gigs of ram. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> overkill^2
My main focus right now would be two large hard drives (60-80GB), a CD-R drive (faster than my pathetic 4x), one or two model versions below the top-of-the-line processor and motherboard (to ease cost), two 21" flatscreen monitors, a dual-monitor supporting video card (ATI Radeon 9600 does this, I believe) and around a total of 2GB of memory. Gaming is almost a secondary thing for me now, since I don't play many new games and infrequently play Half-Life modifications. These upgrades would be for my Photoshop work, which in large images can take quite a while to complete simple tasks.
Anything you need, goto www.newegg.com i always get stuff fast and cheap from them <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
And get some UBER cooling so you can jack up the overclock <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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19" LCD: <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=24-194-001&depa=1' target='_blank'>$435</a>
He's buying, what do you care? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
What application would actually require four gb's of RAM? The highest ammount of RAM anyone would really need in their computer, especially a gaming rig, would be 2gb.
What type of emergency are you referring to?
He's buying, what do you care? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What application would actually require four gb's of RAM? The highest ammount of RAM anyone would really need in their computer, especially a gaming rig, would be 2gb. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wrong. I put a 10 iteration meshsmooth modifier on a simple mesh in 3dsmax and it required 26.5GB of RAM (it took 20 minutes using swap space). However, I don't know of any commercial motherboards that hold 26GB of RAM <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
If I had $3000 for a gaming rig, I'd definately get the best Athalon64, as much RAM as the motherboard can hold, an X800XT Platinum, some nice SATA RAID (250GB drives no less), a kickass sound card (Turtle Beach Santa Cruz probably), some nice 7.1 surroud sound speakers, and DEFINATELY a second monitor. Oh, and use the rest to get a sweet case and mod it up.
Or get a 'good' but not extreme gaming rig and invest the remaining $1,500
what i'd keep for other stuff: $2000.
amd 2100 +
512 ddr pc 2700 ram
geforce 4 ti 4600
and some 60 gig hard drive no idea what it is tho <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
amd 2100 +
512 ddr pc 2700 ram
geforce 4 ti 4600
and some 60 gig hard drive no idea what it is tho <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
err...umm With those specs, why not just save the entire $3000?
sorry no because itll go into my lan pile so when i got friends over we can have a nice round of deathmatch <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
sorry no because itll go into my lan pile so when i got friends over we can have a nice round of deathmatch <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
whatever happened to BYOC lans?
Specs?
$135.00 <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=11-119-023&depa=0' target='_blank'>Cooler Master Wave Master Case </a>
$152.00 <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=13-131-499&depa=0' target='_blank'>ASUS "A8V Deluxe Wi-Fi" K8T800 Pro Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket 939 CPU</a>
$589.00 <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=14-130-196&depa=0' target='_blank'>eVGA nVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra Video Card, 256MB</a>
$66.00 <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=17-153-009&depa=0' target='_blank'>Thermaltake W0010 Silent Purepower 480W </a>
$652.00 <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-465&depa=0' target='_blank'>AMD Socket 939 Athlon 64 3800+, 2.4 GHz, 512KB L2 Cache 64-bit Processor</a>
$1,380.00 <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-504&depa=0' target='_blank'><b>4x</b> Corsair XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series, Low Latency 184 Pin 1GB DDR PC-3200 PRO</a>
$89.00 <a href='http://www.newegg.com/app/SearchProductResult.asp?Description=29-121-101&DEPA=' target='_blank'> M-AUDIO 7.1 Channel PCI Sound Card, Model "Revolution 7.1" </a>
$3,063.00
If it were me though, I'd spend about 1/4 as much money and get a pc 3/4 as good.
Of course, one of my computers has a 5-1/4 drive (purely for decorative purposes)...
PCI-X too.
heres one for you; <a href='http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8qspro.html' target='_blank'>http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8qspro.html</a>
the most powerful commercially avaliable motherboard i can find. this "PC" would be able to run four NS servers and these forums. also supports 32gigs of ram.
PCI-X too.
heres one for you; <a href='http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8qspro.html' target='_blank'>http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8qspro.html</a>
the most powerful commercially avaliable motherboard i can find. this "PC" would be able to run four NS servers and these forums. also supports 32gigs of ram. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
overkill^2
And get some UBER cooling so you can jack up the overclock <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->