<!--QuoteBegin-amarc+Jul 31 2004, 12:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (amarc @ Jul 31 2004, 12:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The best clans to grace NS were probably eR, HAM, torment, exigent & ktdm in their respective time periods.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> That is pretty such true except for a few other clans. Early ReD, sometimes of eve, sYn were also very great, but still - 1.04 clans. ue was also a very great clan at the time, so was cri.
2.0 had ir was very very good team, but exigent still won finals then.
Future -
terror blackmarket
Their will be some clans that just die and I know there is one <b>c</b>lan that <b>i</b>s just seems to be living all it's past name, cause it <b>r</b>eally does not live up to its old name now. Not even close.
<!--QuoteBegin-coris+Aug 1 2004, 07:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coris @ Aug 1 2004, 07:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->atm Id say that exigent is the top clan, but I think that they will have to watch out for #cri.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> while cri still has some good talent (magitek, future) I do not find them to be as good as they use to. maybe this is why some of their top talent has left them over time? who knows.
<!--QuoteBegin-coris+Aug 1 2004, 07:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coris @ Aug 1 2004, 07:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The future clans will be blackmarket and terror, and maybe pandas if they can be revived again and Pneu, romano and Keyser decide to re-join.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
those three are in blackmarket now. and romano/keyser is not original pandas anyway. key was in cX before pandas and romano ... well we all know romano.
<!--QuoteBegin-UGL|Andrew+Aug 1 2004, 04:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (UGL|Andrew @ Aug 1 2004, 04:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> in 1.0
The top team was sYn, no one could beat them heh, hardly anyone could win a half, then [TE] Theory of Evolution tied them, and TE could always beat ReD, ReD only got decent near the mid of 1.03. then ReD and TE pretty much had the same skill levle so ReD/TE were probobly there at #2 with sYn at the top. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Wewt for [TE]! Those were the glory days... ue definately deserves a mention. They were a VERY tough team for a long time.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->HAM was the dominating team. eR imo was still second even if they won CAL. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
By the cal finals if you'd played both teams you knew ham had no chance.
Theres a distinct lack of Fleetwood in this list! Final 3 of the 2.0 ESL:
Torment DW fwd
I think you'll find euros tend to outperform the US clans. I remember the "team "EU vs "team US" game back in 1.04, when EU won 3-1, and with a team that certainly didn't reflect Europes top players at the time. Europe tends to dominte in most FPS games though, look at CS or Quake.
the majority of clans atm are selfpromoting 2.0 players who think they are the bees knees and their clan plans pwnz, they are wrong, welcome to the dark ages, enjoy your stay.
Sarisel.::' ( O ) ';:-. .-.:;' ( O ) '::.Join Date: 2003-07-30Member: 18557Members, Constellation
At this time, there is little incentive to keep a new team together in NS. I wouldn't be surprised if a few older teams break up or move on to another game. When I mention blackmarket and terror destined to be at the top, I do so with the assumption that they will hold together. Blackmarket in particular has explosive potential and an excellent mix of both skill and personality. Terror has almost the same levels.
n1 u forgot bP? we spanked a lot of good clans in usa as in europe back in the 2.0 days <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Forlorn+Aug 2 2004, 02:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Aug 2 2004, 02:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Saying blackmarket and terror will be top clans in the future is really short sighted, because both will be dead within a matter of 3 weeks or so. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> terror is already 5 weeks old and blackmarket players (most of them) have been playing for about 3 weeks before the clan was even made (2 weeks ago). Plus, seeing how terror is like ue + ir you can kind of say they will last longer.
<!--QuoteBegin-HEYCHECKITOUTYO+Aug 1 2004, 10:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (HEYCHECKITOUTYO @ Aug 1 2004, 10:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-amarc+Jul 31 2004, 03:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (amarc @ Jul 31 2004, 03:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-HEYCHECKITOUTYO+Jul 31 2004, 07:19 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (HEYCHECKITOUTYO @ Jul 31 2004, 07:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ayumi preseason match = far from exigent's prime <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Perhaps, at least the eclipse game was.
& maybe add Fek'lyrs to the European list. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> what eclipse match? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> A game KTDM and exigent played on ns_eclipse on a US East server. Perhaps it was before or after your time, or maybe you were just not around.
<!--QuoteBegin-amarc+Aug 2 2004, 09:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (amarc @ Aug 2 2004, 09:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-HEYCHECKITOUTYO+Aug 1 2004, 10:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (HEYCHECKITOUTYO @ Aug 1 2004, 10:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-amarc+Jul 31 2004, 03:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (amarc @ Jul 31 2004, 03:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-HEYCHECKITOUTYO+Jul 31 2004, 07:19 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (HEYCHECKITOUTYO @ Jul 31 2004, 07:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ayumi preseason match = far from exigent's prime <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Perhaps, at least the eclipse game was.
& maybe add Fek'lyrs to the European list. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> what eclipse match? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> A game KTDM and exigent played on ns_eclipse on a US East server. Perhaps it was before or after your time, or maybe you were just not around. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> scrims hold no weight thx
You mean the exigent that hasn't played together in a month? Yea, I heard they were still top of the line <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Too bad theres like 3 clans who aren't in that same boat rennex.
It's all well and good to say Terror and Blackmarket are up and coming clans but it may have something to do with them being the only people scrimming. And I think I saw cri today.
<!--QuoteBegin-HEYCHECKITOUTYO+Aug 3 2004, 04:18 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (HEYCHECKITOUTYO @ Aug 3 2004, 04:18 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-amarc+Aug 2 2004, 09:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (amarc @ Aug 2 2004, 09:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-HEYCHECKITOUTYO+Aug 1 2004, 10:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (HEYCHECKITOUTYO @ Aug 1 2004, 10:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-amarc+Jul 31 2004, 03:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (amarc @ Jul 31 2004, 03:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-HEYCHECKITOUTYO+Jul 31 2004, 07:19 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (HEYCHECKITOUTYO @ Jul 31 2004, 07:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ayumi preseason match = far from exigent's prime <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Perhaps, at least the eclipse game was.
& maybe add Fek'lyrs to the European list. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> what eclipse match? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> A game KTDM and exigent played on ns_eclipse on a US East server. Perhaps it was before or after your time, or maybe you were just not around. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> scrims hold no weight thx <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Oh but this particular one did...
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Perhaps, at least the eclipse game was.
& maybe add Fek'lyrs to the European list. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
what eclipse match?
That is pretty such true except for a few other clans. Early ReD, sometimes of eve, sYn were also very great, but still - 1.04 clans. ue was also a very great clan at the time, so was cri.
2.0 had ir was very very good team, but exigent still won finals then.
Future -
terror
blackmarket
Their will be some clans that just die and I know there is one <b>c</b>lan that <b>i</b>s just seems to be living all it's past name, cause it <b>r</b>eally does not live up to its old name now. Not even close.
R18
Boost
The future clans will be blackmarket and terror, and maybe pandas if they can be revived again and Pneu, romano and Keyser decide to re-join.
while cri still has some good talent (magitek, future) I do not find them to be as good as they use to. maybe this is why some of their top talent has left them over time? who knows.
<!--QuoteBegin-coris+Aug 1 2004, 07:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coris @ Aug 1 2004, 07:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->The future clans will be blackmarket and terror, and maybe pandas if they can be revived again and Pneu, romano and Keyser decide to re-join.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
those three are in blackmarket now. and romano/keyser is not original pandas anyway. key was in cX before pandas and romano ... well we all know romano.
The top team was sYn, no one could beat them heh, hardly anyone could win a half, then [TE] Theory of Evolution tied them, and TE could always beat ReD, ReD only got decent near the mid of 1.03. then ReD and TE pretty much had the same skill levle so ReD/TE were probobly there at #2 with sYn at the top. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wewt for [TE]! Those were the glory days... ue definately deserves a mention. They were a VERY tough team for a long time.
<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
By the cal finals if you'd played both teams you knew ham had no chance.
Torment
DW
fwd
I think you'll find euros tend to outperform the US clans. I remember the "team "EU vs "team US" game back in 1.04, when EU won 3-1, and with a team that certainly didn't reflect Europes top players at the time. Europe tends to dominte in most FPS games though, look at CS or Quake.
<a href='http://www.esl-europe.net/eu/hl/nase/6on6/opening_cup/rankings/' target='_blank'>http://www.esl-europe.net/eu/hl/nase/6on6/...g_cup/rankings/</a>
terror is already 5 weeks old and blackmarket players (most of them) have been playing for about 3 weeks before the clan was even made (2 weeks ago). Plus, seeing how terror is like ue + ir you can kind of say they will last longer.
Perhaps, at least the eclipse game was.
& maybe add Fek'lyrs to the European list. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
what eclipse match? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
A game KTDM and exigent played on ns_eclipse on a US East server. Perhaps it was before or after your time, or maybe you were just not around.
Perhaps, at least the eclipse game was.
& maybe add Fek'lyrs to the European list. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
what eclipse match? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
A game KTDM and exigent played on ns_eclipse on a US East server. Perhaps it was before or after your time, or maybe you were just not around. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
scrims hold no weight thx
It's all well and good to say Terror and Blackmarket are up and coming clans but it may have something to do with them being the only people scrimming. And I think I saw cri today.
Perhaps, at least the eclipse game was.
& maybe add Fek'lyrs to the European list. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
what eclipse match? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
A game KTDM and exigent played on ns_eclipse on a US East server. Perhaps it was before or after your time, or maybe you were just not around. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
scrims hold no weight thx <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Oh but this particular one did...
/me prays that beta 5 will fix it...