Iraqi Rebels Target Female U.s. Soldiers

ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet! Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
<div class="IPBDescription">WONDERFUL folks, these rebels, huh?</div> from washingtontimes.com<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Iraqi rebels target female U.S. soldiers


Baghdad, Iraq, Jul. 1 (UPI) -- Terrorists in Iraqi rebel leader Abu Musab Zarqawi's network have been instructed to kidnap a female U.S. soldier, the Washington Times said Thursday.

"We have heard through intelligence channels that several extremist organizations are attempting to capture coalition servicemen and women," said a senior military officer in Iraq. "We have instituted additional force protection methods to thwart these attempts."

Of the 140,000 U.S. troops in Iraq, about 11,000 are women. They work as drivers, medics, aviators, police and clerks. By law, they are banned from land combat, but they still come into close contact with the enemy.

The defense source told the Times Zarqawi's network wants to further shock the West by kidnapping servicewomen and displaying them on videotape.

He also said the terrorists might be planning "payback" for a U.S. female soldier seen taking part in the abuse of Iraqi inmates at Abu Ghraib prison near Baghdad.

U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell has authorized an increase in the reward offer for information leading to the arrest or conviction of Zarqawi to $25 million.

Zarqawi has had a long-standing connection to the senior leadership of al-Qaida and his organization has committed numerous atrocities in Iraq in recent months, including the beheading of American citizen Nick Berg.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

don't anybody even SUGGEST "eye for an eye" justification for this pathetic excuse for a human being.. this man is SCUM. i hope we get him, and i hope we get him <i>good</i>.
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  • lolfighterlolfighter Snark, Dire Join Date: 2003-04-20 Member: 15693Members
    Why don't we ask the Serbians and the Albanians? They have quite a bit to say about eye for an eye and where it gets you.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    the truth of the matter is that the poor bastard is mourning the serious shortage of hot American girls over there. he can come here if he wants it. i'm sure he'll receive a warm welcome.
  • NumbersNotFoundNumbersNotFound Join Date: 2002-11-07 Member: 7556Members
    Isn't this the guy that was ducking in and out of mosques to avoid US capture?

    This guy needs to be gotten rid of... fast.
  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    you see, it's reasons like this we can't judge

    as Adam Carolla would say: we can't judge at all, everyone has wonderfull cultures, we can't judge.

    religion, we can't judge, at least the crazy religions in the states and elsewhere get there crazyness via other means instead of blowing themselves up in crowded civilian areas.

    Despite the fact that they are trying to go after women and children and police and hospitals means we can't judge full of *wonderfull* people...

    Then again, that probably represents a very the small majority of people. But as we know, it's usually a few people who mess things up for everyone else.

    [/rant] <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    So they want to sexually humiliate a female american eh?
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    aye they do. they've heard the stories, how our girls are so hot they're on fire, setting nearby bushes and telephone poles aflame when they walk past.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-That Annoying Kid+Jul 1 2004, 09:26 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (That Annoying Kid @ Jul 1 2004, 09:26 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> you see, it's reasons like this we can't judge

    as Adam Carolla would say: we can't judge at all, everyone has wonderfull cultures, we can't judge.

    religion, we can't judge, at least the crazy religions in the states and elsewhere get there crazyness via other means instead of blowing themselves up in crowded civilian areas.

    Despite the fact that they are trying to go after women and children and police and hospitals means we can't judge full of *wonderfull* people...

    Then again, that probably represents a very the small majority of people. But as we know, it's usually a few people who mess things up for everyone else.

    [/rant] <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i didn't understand this.. :\
  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    edited July 2004
  • DiablusDiablus Join Date: 2003-03-31 Member: 15080Members
    they use religeon as an excuse to do there horrible deeds. but they clearly violate many things in their religeon.
  • StakhanovStakhanov Join Date: 2003-03-12 Member: 14448Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Diablus+Jul 1 2004, 08:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Diablus @ Jul 1 2004, 08:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> they use religeon as an excuse to do there horrible deeds. but they clearly violate many things in their religeon. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Not only things in their religion unfortunately <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Jim_has_SkillzJim_has_Skillz Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12475Members, Constellation
    You do realize we could avoid this by getting the hell out of Iraq. There is really no reason why we should be in there.

    By the way, we have killed numerous innocent women and children invading and attacking Iraq. Try to understand both sides of the conflict, all these rebels want us to do is get the hell out of their country, they really just want to live in peace.
  • TommyVercettiTommyVercetti Join Date: 2003-02-10 Member: 13390Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    With an Islamic extremist government. Hmm... wasn't Saddam's secular government supressing these groups?
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Jim has Skillz+Jul 1 2004, 12:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jim has Skillz @ Jul 1 2004, 12:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You do realize we could avoid this by getting the hell out of Iraq. There is really no reason why we should be in there.

    By the way, we have killed numerous innocent women and children invading and attacking Iraq. Try to understand both sides of the conflict, all these rebels want us to do is get the hell out of their country, they really just want to live in peace. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i don't get the part where you "live in peace" by systematically murdering groups of your people.

    maybe the kurds can explain it to me.
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-Zig+Jul 1 2004, 03:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zig @ Jul 1 2004, 03:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Jim has Skillz+Jul 1 2004, 12:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jim has Skillz @ Jul 1 2004, 12:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You do realize we could avoid this by getting the hell out of Iraq.  There is really no reason why we should be in there. 

    By the way, we have killed numerous innocent women and children invading and attacking Iraq.  Try to understand both sides of the conflict, all these rebels want us to do is get the hell out of their country, they really just want to live in peace. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i don't get the part where you "live in peace" by systematically murdering groups of your people.

    maybe the kurds can explain it to me. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh noes, we kill 1000, it wasn't worth trying to save another 100000 from being gassed/tortured/murdered.
  • ZigZig ...I am Captain Planet&#33; Join Date: 2002-10-23 Member: 1576Members
    it's quite confusing to me that people think we should "pull out" which is not quite as easy as coitus interruptus, and then let the problem 'solve itself' (read: let people keep killing innocents and stomping all over the lowerclass)
  • SkySky Join Date: 2004-04-23 Member: 28131Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-TommyVercetti+Jul 1 2004, 03:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (TommyVercetti @ Jul 1 2004, 03:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> With an Islamic extremist government. Hmm... wasn't Saddam's secular government supressing these groups? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Saddam was "suppressing" these groups alright. He was also "suppressing" the rest of Iraq, including the Kurds, for whom "suppression" meant "death".
  • reasareasa Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8010Members, Constellation
    edited July 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Jim has Skillz+Jul 1 2004, 03:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jim has Skillz @ Jul 1 2004, 03:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You do realize we could avoid this by getting the hell out of Iraq.  There is really no reason why we should be in there. 

    By the way, we have killed numerous innocent women and children invading and attacking Iraq.  Try to understand both sides of the conflict, all these rebels want us to do is get the hell out of their country, they really just want to live in peace. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Actually you’re very very wrong. Read the piece in this weeks TIME where they interview some of the insurgents.

    They wish to set up a government almost exactly like the one Afghanistan had before we came and removed it.

    When one of the insurgents was asked what they would do after they made us leave Iraq he replied <b>"we will follow them to America"</b>.

    Yes, a Taliban like government that wants to destroy the US. They really just want to live in peace?

    Yes let’s leave, lets let them take over, they could, let’s let that happen....
  • JamilJamil Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4829Members
    So female soldiers are off-limits now?
    If they want to be in the army, let them face the consequences. Equal rights, girl-power, et al.
  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    Well, It's not a double standard issue here, they want to get back on the american by sexually abuse female soldiers, it's barbaric..
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-Jamil+Jul 1 2004, 07:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jamil @ Jul 1 2004, 07:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> So female soldiers are off-limits now?
    If they want to be in the army, let them face the consequences. Equal rights, girl-power, et al. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I must say Jamil is correct.

    And people want a good reason not to let women join the ranks...
  • SwiftspearSwiftspear Custim tital Join Date: 2003-10-29 Member: 22097Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Jim has Skillz+Jul 1 2004, 03:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jim has Skillz @ Jul 1 2004, 03:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You do realize we could avoid this by getting the hell out of Iraq. There is really no reason why we should be in there.

    By the way, we have killed numerous innocent women and children invading and attacking Iraq. Try to understand both sides of the conflict, all these rebels want us to do is get the hell out of their country, they really just want to live in peace. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Maby America shouldn't have gone into Iraq in the first place, but this is DEFINATELY not the stopgap solution. You made your bed, now you better well lie in it, or your gonna be sitting in another hornets nest in 3 years. The last thing America, or the world needs is another extreamist Islamic government in the Middle East.
  • MavericMaveric Join Date: 2002-08-07 Member: 1101Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jul 1 2004, 07:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jul 1 2004, 07:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The last thing America, or the world needs is another extreamist Islamic government in the Middle East. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I think we can <b>all</b> agree to that one. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • reasareasa Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8010Members, Constellation
    Which is why the "lets just leave now that will make everything all better" argument is so stupid and naive.

    If we leave we <b>will</b> have another Taliban like government in the Middle East, except this time they will be in control of some much more valuable land.

    We can't leave now, whether you agree with the reasons for the war or not.

    That’s the main reason these anti-war arguments **** me off so much, it's not that they aren't right, allot of times they are, it's just that it doesn’t matter at all.
    Were there, if we leave things will only get much worse.
  • AegeriAegeri Join Date: 2003-02-13 Member: 13486Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Forlorn+Jul 1 2004, 03:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Forlorn @ Jul 1 2004, 03:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Zig+Jul 1 2004, 03:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Zig @ Jul 1 2004, 03:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Jim has Skillz+Jul 1 2004, 12:06 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Jim has Skillz @ Jul 1 2004, 12:06 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> You do realize we could avoid this by getting the hell out of Iraq.  There is really no reason why we should be in there. 

    By the way, we have killed numerous innocent women and children invading and attacking Iraq.  Try to understand both sides of the conflict, all these rebels want us to do is get the hell out of their country, they really just want to live in peace. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    i don't get the part where you "live in peace" by systematically murdering groups of your people.

    maybe the kurds can explain it to me. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Oh noes, we kill 1000, it wasn't worth trying to save another 100000 from being gassed/tortured/murdered. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    If America was to kill a puppy dog it would be an undeniable tragedy

    If a dictator was to kill 1,000,000 puppies it would be a statistic.
  • reasareasa Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8010Members, Constellation
    Thank you unoriginal Stalin.
  • AegeriAegeri Join Date: 2003-02-13 Member: 13486Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-reasa+Jul 1 2004, 10:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (reasa @ Jul 1 2004, 10:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Thank you unoriginal Stalin. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Indeed, of course the point is to demonstrate that it is something I've always found incredibly dumb with the anti-war crowd myself. That they don't care for thousands of people dying, if their government may be responsible for even 1 death in saving thousands and potentially giving millions a better life.

    To me, those numbers work out.
  • reasareasa Join Date: 2002-11-10 Member: 8010Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-Aegeri+Jul 1 2004, 11:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aegeri @ Jul 1 2004, 11:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Indeed, of course the point is to demonstrate that it is something I've always found incredibly dumb with the anti-war crowd myself. That they don't care for thousands of people dying, if their government may be responsible for even 1 death in saving thousands and potentially giving millions a better life.

    To me, those numbers work out. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Good point lets hope Iraq works out to prove that correct.

    However I still think Stalin is rolling in his grave at the use of his quote. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • AegeriAegeri Join Date: 2003-02-13 Member: 13486Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-reasa+Jul 2 2004, 12:02 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (reasa @ Jul 2 2004, 12:02 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Aegeri+Jul 1 2004, 11:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aegeri @ Jul 1 2004, 11:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Indeed, of course the point is to demonstrate that it is something I've always found incredibly dumb with the anti-war crowd myself. That they don't care for thousands of people dying, if their government may be responsible for even 1 death in saving thousands and potentially giving millions a better life.

    To me, those numbers work out. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Good point lets hope Iraq works out to prove that correct.

    However I still think Stalin is rolling in his grave at the use of his quote. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'm not even sure he even said it to be honest. There are so many variations on it, it genuinely makes me wonder if it really is correctly attributed to him. Who knows though, history is after all written by the winner.
  • panda_de_malheureuxpanda_de_malheureux Join Date: 2003-12-26 Member: 24775Members
    I don't see why using dirty tactics would change a thing. They are terrorists, are you expecting them to show up at a US base and say 'lets have a good clean fight now, please, if that's alright with you'. Atleast they aren't lying about being evil, unlike some other World's Largest Army I know of.
  • eggmaceggmac Join Date: 2003-03-03 Member: 14246Members
    Look, you're giving here arbitary numbers representing deaths of human beings. Those numbers haven't any basis, they're just estimates. Are the US troops responsible for 1000 deaths to save 100000 lifes? Or are they responsible for 10 deaths to safe 100 Lifes? Or do those numbers equal out? Or is it actually vice versa, have there been more people killed by US troops by now than there would have been under Saddam Hussein?

    How many people have been killed in the WTC? 3000? And how many people have been killed in Afghanistan and Iraq by Us troops only? 20000? Does it equal out or not?

    Is this really a basis to debate about war? Is the counting of deaths a qustification for anything? And how exactly can you define <i>whose</i> life is more worthy? Whose life is to be sacrificed in order to safe other human beings?

    Don't you realize that we're talking about <i>Human Beings</i> and not about some game. We're talking about people who have mothers, fathers, children, friends. How can you say that it's horrible that they're killed by Saddam Hussein, yet if they're killed by US troops it's fine because they're going to safe the lifes of other people?

    How can one talk about human lifes in such a horrible way? It's war, and some of you are pecking like vultures, just to find a justification for their ideology.
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