Server Rules

ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
What rules would you/do you use on a server if you did/do own a server? Reasons, discussion, etc gogogo!!!!
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  • Chaos_XeroChaos_Xero Join Date: 2004-06-04 Member: 29112Members
    This sounds like a topic for General Server Discussion. Might consider asking there to get a better response.
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    I dont think so. Im not discussing servers Im discussing server behaviour which is general natural selection discussion OMG :O
  • semipsychoticsemipsychotic Join Date: 2003-07-09 Member: 18061Members
    edited June 2004
    - No stacking
    - No CLAN stacking (to be extra clear)
    - No punks.
    - I would love for FF to be on, but the clan doesn't like it. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • BigMadSteveBigMadSteve Join Date: 2003-02-12 Member: 13472Members
    edited June 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-semi-psychotic+Jun 25 2004, 03:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (semi-psychotic @ Jun 25 2004, 03:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> - No stacking
    - No CLAN stacking (to be extra clear)
    - No punks.
    - I would love for FF to be on, but the clan doesn't like it.  <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Y'know, try dropping by your own server some time semi <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> You pretty much copied out the list of rules <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> And FF is horrible.

    --Hitman
  • XenoXeno Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2343Members
    i run the [NAR] server. one thing we dont like is swearing. also exploiting, vulagar language and that is pretty much it.
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    youre gonna have to give me much more concise descriptions of your rules for me to even bother to read them <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • napinapi Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14172Members, Constellation
    + Obey the admins
    - They are there for a reason
    - Their word is final
    - Bring complaints to #myclan.ns @ irc.ircnetwork.net

    + No offensive language
    - No Racism
    - No Facism
    - No Nazism
    - No other offensive -ism's

    + Encourage Team work
    - Don't 'res ****' as alien
    - Don't whinge at Comm for kit
    - Communicate but don't voice spam

    + Don't be a prat
    - Just be sensible...
    - Don't shout "HAX" after every death
    - For genuine cheat accusations record a demo
    - Have a bit of fun while you're at it....

    raaa some thing like that... sure there is more to it but i'd start with that... slap it in the console join message or some thing similar
  • Nemesis_ZeroNemesis_Zero Old European Join Date: 2002-01-25 Member: 75Members, Retired Developer, NS1 Playtester, Constellation
    "This is our server. Us paying for it, we like to enjoy ourselves on it. If your behaviour turns out to hinder this, you will be removed. If not, you're welcome."

    OK, it makes the (sometimes rather bold) assumption that the servers owners have half a brain - but honestly, if that's not the case, do you really think that a more elaborate set of rules will change anything?
  • napinapi Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14172Members, Constellation
    edited June 2004
    [offtopic]Nem, get my email?![/offtopic]

    there are servers out there that tolerate any type of attitude... the admins don't care - they are usually the cause of most of the problems - one of the biggest bits being racism....

    if you stick it down there, no one can say they didn't get a warning. but yer, your one line sums it up pretty well!
  • ssjyodassjyoda Join Date: 2002-03-05 Member: 274Members, Squad Five Blue
    one rule i can't stand on servers is the no res whoring garbage. on a team of 10 aliens.. 3 of them go gorge off the bat to drop a rt, another goes gorge and drops dc.. no need for me or anyone else to drop anything. 1 guy save for the hive and anyone else just have fun. i got kicked from a server cause of that..
  • Soylent_greenSoylent_green Join Date: 2002-12-20 Member: 11220Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited June 2004
    Here's what I'd use(if I could actually enforce it <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->).

    C-D in non-optional mode.

    mp_consistency 1. (you can do alot of nasty things with this off, even with C-D)

    - no cheat accusations, ever, record a demo zip/rar and send to <some email adress> or visit <some IRC channel>. If you feel irritable and unable to controll your attitude, leave. (because experienced players hate getting harassed by newbies and nothing good ever came out of openly screaming 0Mg HaX0R!!!111one)

    - Bunnyhopping is not an exploit, for help first look here <some websites>, if you still can't figure it out, ask. (bunny hopping suffers from rather severe frame rate dependence, but it is still part of the game)

    - You may feel that you are a l33t clanner and naturally you allways deserve to save for early fade every single round without ever going gorge. Well, you don't. Be somewhat fair and the game will be more enjoyable for everyone.

    - Blink/slash, leap/bite scripts are useless and your welcome to script away. Chances are most people do it manually and there certainly is no advantage in scripting something as mundane as this unless you suffer from arthritis. If you have trouble setting your keys up properly ask in the new player forum at <a href='http://www.natural-selection.org' target='_blank'>http://www.natural-selection.org</a> or in <some IRC channel>. (The action of these scripts is so mundane that you can learn it in 5 minutes and do it just as fast once you get your keys set up properly)

    -RTFM, you are expected to know the basics. (no one likes playing with complete and utter newbies)

    -Be nice to newbies so long as they at least grasp the very basics otherwise tell them kindly to go read the manual. (newbies don't like being yelled at)

    16 slot server at the very most. (because bigger games are unbalanced, pointless and frustrating)

    Oops, forgot the most important bit, no CO maps ever.
  • napinapi Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14172Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-ssjyoda+Jun 25 2004, 06:07 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ssjyoda @ Jun 25 2004, 06:07 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> one rule i can't stand on servers is the no res whoring garbage. on a team of 10 aliens.. 3 of them go gorge off the bat to drop a rt, another goes gorge and drops dc.. no need for me or anyone else to drop anything. 1 guy save for the hive and anyone else just have fun. i got kicked from a server cause of that.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    thats not what i mean by res whoring...

    i'm refering more to instances when people are screaming for a hive, and there are players who know damn well they got enough res, but just don't spend it...
  • OlljOllj our themepark-stalking nightmare Fade Join Date: 2002-12-12 Member: 10696Members
    edited June 2004
    - no bunnyhopping.
    - go random team.
    - no whining about the first chamber or sieges and grenades.
    - say some random racism for instant ban
    - dont forget to make love to the armory and make a skulk happy.
  • SkulkinatorSkulkinator Join Date: 2004-05-30 Member: 29016Members
    Hmm, I don't run a server, nor do I know much about it. This is just a player's perspective.

    - No stacking teams in any way, shape, or form.
    - No pretending to be AFK in the RR in order to avoid having to join a team.
    - No personal attacks, racism, or any other demeaning remarks.
    - No whining about a strategy, if it's part of the game.
    - No cheats/exploits (of course).
    - Help the team, not just yourself.
  • XaajehXaajeh Join Date: 2003-05-21 Member: 16546Members
    edited June 2004
    <span style='color:white'>This forum is not the place to bash servers, to discuss admin actions on a server, or to insult people who help the community by investing money and time into a server.
    Furthermore, neither of these actions were aim of the topic starter.</span>
  • laggerlagger Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1805Members
    edited June 2004
    - No scripts
    + Locking Sensitivity at 2
    + Locking Gamma at 1
    + Locking Brightness at 2
    + Locking Rate at 500

    - No stacking
    + Always go random
    + Server will auto-ban if you dont enter random withen 15 seconds upon entry into the game
    + Name cannot be longer then 9 characters

    - No hacking
    + No 3rd party programs running including any hl addon such as hl winamps
    + No models/skins/sprites changes
    + No new crosshairs
    + Resolution MUST be 800X600 on opengl

    - Good attitudes
    + If your negative you will be warned then banned

    I'm sure there are many needed things ^_-.

    <span style='color:white'>Grow up <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--></span>

    By the way server rules shouldnt really be disscussed unless it becomes a problem on your server... if it never comes up then I dont see the need for changing the game.
  • TestamentTestament Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4037Members
    edited June 2004
    I'm just going to believe that's one big joke, Lagger.

    <span style='color:white'>Related post nuked.</span>
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    lagger if you arent going to be constructive why make yourself look like a jerk? :S
  • HypergripHypergrip Suspect Germany Join Date: 2002-11-23 Member: 9689Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
    These are the rules we ahave on our server.

    The short version:
    - Have Fun and be polite, we're all here to have a good time
    - No Flaming, Spamming, Bugusing and any counterproductive behavior
    - Even teams please
    - FF is enabled sometimes, if you abuse it we will act accordingly

    The long version:

    1.) Spamming / Flooding
    This is NOT "medspam", continous sporing or something like that. We're talking about the chat system or voice. Usually the plugins will take care of people flooding the chat. If some player decides it would be a nice thing to use those "Let's play some crappy music over voice-com"-tools an Admin will warm him and eventually mute his voice-com (player needs to restart HL to be able to use it again) or kikc him.

    2.) Flaming
    People play to have fun. Of course they can get angry very fast if things don't turn out as they want and you will see "FU", "Oh what a lamer" and so on. To some degree this is part of the game, however if somebody is getting too personal or just won't stop whinning an admin will warn him and eventually kick him if he doesn't stop. We do not tolerate any form of racism on our server; if somebody thinks our server would be a good place to tell everybody what he thinks about any ethnic or religios group, he will find himself being banned in no time. Cheating accusations are not welcomed on our server either.

    3.) Bugusing
    We define "bugusing" as using a bug/error in a map or NS itself to gain an advantage. Examples would be building at "irregular" locations (oven in front of feedwater on ns_bast or outside the cockpit on ns_nancy are example from earlier versions). Depending on the impact on the game an admin will decide what action is neccessary to take.

    4.) Readyroom idling / Player AFK
    Depending on the number of players on the server an admin will kick players that are AFK or do not join a team. Admins will make sure the last slot is not blocked by somebody AFK hindering other players to join the server. Regulars that say they will be AFK for a while have a higher tolerance before they get kicked because we know they are active players in general.

    5.) Spectators
    In general spectating is only allowed for admins, however there are situations where we would allow other players to spectate (for example if a member of a clan wants o see their new trail in action we will most likely grant him access to spectator mode).

    6.) Teamstacking
    In general teamstacking at the beginning of the round is almost impossible (mp_limitteams 1), however admins will have an eye on players stacking teams leading to team having the same players every round ("skill-stacking") and can assign everyone to a random team at the beginning to give the teams some variation. Should teams become imbalanced during a round the admins will decide if the game is still in a stage where both teams have a chance to win and (should that be the case) move a player other to the other team. If a game is already decided (HA train marching to the last hive etc.) admins will not move players because it would be unfair for a player to have worked for victory and then become part of the loosing team in hte last minute because somebody else decides to leave.

    7.) Counterproductive behavior / FF
    So what exactly is "counterproductive behavior"? In general it could be described as "Players that behave in a way that intentionally hurts his team is acting counterproductive". Admins will have to decide if a player is acting that way intentionally or simple doesn't know better. Usually an admin will ask the player to stop his behavior and only act if the player doesn't follow the request. Examples for counterproductive behaviour are building chambers on res nodes, building piles of DCs somewhere in a vent on the far end of the map in order to prolong the round when the hive goes down or abusing Friendly Fire.
    In battle teamkills can happen from time to time, that's part of the game when FF is on. Nobody will be kicked/banned for accidently killing a teammate. All we ask for is for people to be polite and say "sorry" or soemthing and everything's fine. However we will not tolerate players that abuse FF by intentionally killing teammates, killing structures etc. These players will be warned and kicked/banned.

    8.) Offending nicknames
    This is part of the "flaming" rules more or less. Players with names like "I_burn_n1gg3rz", "Adolf Hitler", "bend over - my dong is 1 meter" (yes, we actually had a player with that name a while ago...) or something like that will be asked to change their nickname and get kickedif they do not follow our request. However there are situations when a nickname that people might consider offensive is an inside joke. I such cases we will not take any action because we know our player community understands the meaning of that nick and is not offended.

    9.) Final notes
    These "rules" are more or less guidelines for our admins. If there is something missing in these rules but everybody with half a brain knows that it doesn't belong into NS, admins will act accordingly. In general "the admin is always right" - if a player thinks he has been treated unfair he can contact us via mail, irc or our forum.

    So that's pretty much it.. in general we have a policy to "act as rarely as possible and as strickt as neccessary". We consider our rules to be fair and the general atmosphere on or server to be friendly. We had one player complaining about "admin abuse" so far - and it turned out that he was banned for killing the aliens hive as Onos.

    /Hyper
  • laggerlagger Join Date: 2002-10-31 Member: 1805Members
    edited June 2004
    My post was constructive. The last line sums up my point while the begenning is additive humor.

    + I'm a horrible human being
  • XaajehXaajeh Join Date: 2003-05-21 Member: 16546Members
    edited June 2004
    <span style='color:white'>We have a PM functionality for a reason, if you have qualms with my moderation policy, don't drag other peoples threads off topic.</span>
  • EpidemicEpidemic Dark Force Gorge Join Date: 2003-06-29 Member: 17781Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Soylent green+Jun 25 2004, 08:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Soylent green @ Jun 25 2004, 08:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Here's what I'd use(if I could actually enforce it <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->).

    C-D in non-optional mode.

    mp_consistency 1. (you can do alot of nasty things with this off, even with C-D)

    - no cheat accusations, ever, record a demo zip/rar and send to <some email adress> or visit <some IRC channel>. If you feel irritable and unable to controll your attitude, leave. (because experienced players hate getting harassed by newbies and nothing good ever came out of openly screaming 0Mg HaX0R!!!111one)

    - Bunnyhopping is not an exploit, for help first look here <some websites>, if you still can't figure it out, ask. (bunny hopping suffers from rather severe frame rate dependence, but it is still part of the game)

    - You may feel that you are a l33t clanner and naturally you allways deserve to save for early fade every single round without ever going gorge. Well, you don't. Be somewhat fair and the game will be more enjoyable for everyone.

    - Blink/slash, leap/bite scripts are useless and your welcome to script away. Chances are most people do it manually and there certainly is no advantage in scripting something as mundane as this unless you suffer from arthritis. If you have trouble setting your keys up properly ask in the new player forum at <a href='http://www.natural-selection.org' target='_blank'>http://www.natural-selection.org</a> or in <some IRC channel>. (The action of these scripts is so mundane that you can learn it in 5 minutes and do it just as fast once you get your keys set up properly)

    -RTFM, you are expected to know the basics. (no one likes playing with complete and utter newbies)

    -Be nice to newbies so long as they at least grasp the very basics otherwise tell them kindly to go read the manual. (newbies don't like being yelled at)

    16 slot server at the very most. (because bigger games are unbalanced, pointless and frustrating)

    Oops, forgot the most important bit, no CO maps ever. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Instead of forcing your opinion down at people you should just post "bunny-hop encouraged" or something..
  • NolSinklerNolSinkler On the Clorf Join Date: 2004-02-15 Member: 26560Members, Constellation
    edited June 2004
    <span style='color:white'>Related post nuked.</span>

    (oh your new post hasnt been deleted)

    <span style='color:white'>Ironic, I know.</span>
  • ClashenClashen Join Date: 2003-08-22 Member: 20087Members
    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->+ Locking Sensitivity at 2<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    God lord, why?!
  • DragonMechDragonMech Join Date: 2003-09-19 Member: 21023Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    Plugins/Mods
    1) Unchained Chambers - I think it's a sweet plugin.
    2) Res balancer - I love large games, this helps make them fair.
    3) Wave-spawn plugin. Natch.
    4) C-D Optional
    5) AFK kicker (60 seconds)
    6) Awards Plugin

    Rules:
    1) You must know the basics of the game.
    2) Be nice to newbies.
    3) No whining. Period. It's a kickable offense. Don't like it? Leave.
    4) No 'H4X0R' accusations. Save it for the forums. You must have a demo & Steam ID.
    5) Any form of lame behavior (CC blocking, spawncamping, etc.) is a 1 week temp-ban.
    6) No delaying the game. If you're the last one alive with no hope of a comeback, give up or use /kill. This includes 'no bunkering.'
    7) No voice/chat spam. Ever.
    8) No offending nicknames. (Up to admins to decide if 'offending')
    9) No scripts.
  • ZiGGYZiGGY Join Date: 2003-01-19 Member: 12479Members
    i disagree lagger, I really, really dont believe that it is possible to have a stong consistent ns server without stong consistent rules adminned by strong admins.
  • ZunniZunni The best thing to happen to I&amp;S in a long while Join Date: 2002-11-26 Member: 10016Members
    edited June 2004
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  • 7Bistromath7Bistromath Join Date: 2003-12-04 Member: 23928Members, Constellation
    edited June 2004
    Stacking wouldn't be an issue, as I'd have autobalance.

    -If I choose to have any mods, (I likely would) no whining about them
    -I'll trust my admins before I trust you, that's how they got the job
    -No clan stacking
    -Get out of the ready room
    -Only spec at the very beginning, or if you're late-join
    -You should probably just ask if it's okay to spec
    -Be nice to n00bs
    -General idiocy shall receive no quarter
    -Gameplay-related idiocy shall receive little mercy
    -Don't use homosexuality as an insult unless you're prepared to deal with me hitting on you

    I'd prefer people go random, but there are reasons more complicated than I care to kvetch about why I believe you shouldn't force people to do so. You just don't do that on a pub.
  • NarfwakNarfwak Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 5258Members, Super Administrators, Forum Admins, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead, Forum Moderators, Constellation, NS2 Playtester, Squad Five Blue, Reinforced - Supporter, Reinforced - Silver, Reinforced - Gold, Reinforced - Diamond, Reinforced - Shadow, Subnautica PT Lead, NS2 Community Developer
    edited June 2004
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  • SizerSizer Join Date: 2003-10-08 Member: 21531Members
    ~ Cursing allowed, no racist slurs
    ~ Cybersex encouraged
    ~ Bhop, jumpduck scripts allowed, client side weapon switch will net you a ban, also all other popular fade scripts disallowed
    ~ The following clans and members of these organizations will be banned on sight: *** *** **** ** blah blah etc
    ~ Comm does not count as a player - teams must be arranged accordingly
    ~ Repeatedly eating marines when one hit will kill results in kick
    ~ Intentional struct blocking = bannnnnn
    ~ Those reasonably suspected of hacking will be banned, as my idea of fun is catching a hacker, then go spec only to have him toggle off his hack. That's how it happens 99% of the time and why we see so few hackers caught.
    ~ Anyone caught votemapping for co_ maps gets a warning, then ban
    ~ No aliasing under NSPlayer if you're halfway decent. It's irritating, and too many higher-ups hack or lame it up under default names. Therefore, anyone going 17-1 as NSPlayer = banzord
    ~ "That app that lets you play music over voice" is tolerated, so long as the comm isn't being bothered. Might look into a plugin that lets the comm mute players
    ~ Clanners intentionally stacking into the same team = warning then kick. This is entirely unacceptable and lame, especially when done on someone else's server.
    ~ Any comm putting 2 IPs down within the first 30 seconds will get a stern talking to on voice, in the form of cybar sex
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