Computer Troubles

DarkATiDarkATi Revelation 22:17 Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17532Members, Reinforced - Shadow
edited June 2004 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">I'm Exhausted, Please Help Me!</div> OK, so first and foremost, <b> YES, </b>I have run Spybot and AdAware 3 times, I have run three anti-virus programs with up-to-date definitions numerous times. And I still get SLOOOOOW performance on a normal boot. Right now, I'm in Safe Mode with Networking and everything is working just fine but whenever I go to normal boot it either freezes or runs so slow that I consider suicide.

I get no errors of any kind, I have run ScanDisk on all my drives, checking for errors etc. and still the slowness remains. Someone please, I shall give you multiple cookies, what should I do?

Computer Specs

Microsoft Windows XP: SP1
Motherboard: Gigabyte, Up-to-Date BIOS
Memory: Two Sticks of 512 MB Mushkin RAM
HDD 120 GB 7200RPM Western Digital - Internal
Video Card: Radeon 9700 Pro All-In-Wonder
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum 2.1 Set-up

Anything else you need, I shall supply...

EDIT: Oh ****, I can't get into MSCONFIG it tells me it's been restricted by the "Computer Administrator" which should be me... that doesn't sound good... have I been haxed?!?!

EDIT #2: Ok, so I try and get into my startup folder in C:Documents and Setings\mylogon\local settings\start up and my comp crashes in safe mode, WTH. This is not looking good...

EDIT #3: I can't get into hardly any Control Panel Dialogs, User Accounts, etc... *sigh* I need teh helpz0rz, please!

~ DarkATi
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  • POOP_AkiraPOOP_Akira Join Date: 2003-11-23 Member: 23468Members
    Are the only symptoms slowness?
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  • DarkATiDarkATi Revelation 22:17 Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17532Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-<[POOP]> Akira+Jun 11 2004, 07:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (<[POOP]> Akira @ Jun 11 2004, 07:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Are the only symptoms slowness? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    And lack of access, yes. (Read EDITS)

    ~ DarkATi
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  • Ashaman_JoeAshaman_Joe Join Date: 2003-11-11 Member: 22559Members, Constellation
    Personally, I would take web access off that computer, because the symtoms don't sound that good. Might be better if whatever is haxing you con't connect. Aside from that, I have no idea.

    Good luck. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    And you logged in as Administrator in safe mode?

    If you didn't, try that and see if you can get in the controll pannel. When was the last time you reformatted?
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  • DarkATiDarkATi Revelation 22:17 Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17532Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Ashaman Joe+Jun 11 2004, 07:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ashaman Joe @ Jun 11 2004, 07:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Personally, I would take web access off that computer, because the symtoms don't sound that good. Might be better if whatever is haxing you con't connect. Aside from that, I have no idea.

    Good luck. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'll see if that helps the slowness... BRB

    ~ DarkATi
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  • DarkATiDarkATi Revelation 22:17 Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17532Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-DarkATi+Jun 11 2004, 07:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DarkATi @ Jun 11 2004, 07:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Ashaman Joe+Jun 11 2004, 07:24 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ashaman Joe @ Jun 11 2004, 07:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Personally, I would take web access off that computer, because the symtoms don't sound that good. Might be better if whatever is haxing you con't connect. Aside from that, I have no idea.

    Good luck. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I'll see if that helps the slowness... BRB

    ~ DarkATi <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Nope. Didn't help.

    ~ DarkATi
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  • TrevelyanTrevelyan Join Date: 2003-03-23 Member: 14834Members
    try this...

    Go to the start button... it is down to your left
    Go to run
    type msconfig

    Select diagnostic startup...


    Reboot computer


    Check to see how slow it is.
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  • Ashaman_JoeAshaman_Joe Join Date: 2003-11-11 Member: 22559Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-DarkATi+Jun 11 2004, 04:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DarkATi @ Jun 11 2004, 04:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Nope. Didn't help.

    ~ DarkATi <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Erk. I meant don't let who ever is doing bad stuff to your computer have access. Keeping it off the web will hopefully keep it from getting worse. Plus, if you have a virus, it's best not to let it infect other people through your internet connection. Just use the forums on a different computer if possible, and keep that one locked down.
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  • DarkATiDarkATi Revelation 22:17 Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17532Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Trevelyan+Jun 11 2004, 07:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Trevelyan @ Jun 11 2004, 07:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> try this...

    Go to the start button... it is down to your left
    Go to run
    type msconfig

    Select diagnostic startup...


    Reboot computer


    Check to see how slow it is. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Read my edits... in my first post.

    ~ DarkATi
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  • DarkATiDarkATi Revelation 22:17 Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17532Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-Ashaman Joe+Jun 11 2004, 07:59 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Ashaman Joe @ Jun 11 2004, 07:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-DarkATi+Jun 11 2004, 04:38 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DarkATi @ Jun 11 2004, 04:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Nope. Didn't help.

    ~ DarkATi <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Erk. I meant don't let who ever is doing bad stuff to your computer have access. Keeping it off the web will hopefully keep it from getting worse. Plus, if you have a virus, it's best not to let it infect other people through your internet connection. Just use the forums on a different computer if possible, and keep that one locked down. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    My comp is the only one in my house with internet... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    ~ DarkATi
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  • BeowulfGrendelBeowulfGrendel Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13775Members, Constellation
    regedit - HKLM and HKCU \software\microsoft\windows\currentversion\run to remove startup processes.
    If your C: drive is formatted as FAT32, boot off a DOS floppy and remove those startup entries?
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  • DarkATiDarkATi Revelation 22:17 Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17532Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    I did some regediting, I removed the lock on MSCONFIG AND I tried a Diagnostic startup to no avail, it still runs slow... this is getting really annoying...

    ~ DarkATi
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  • CForresterCForrester P0rk(h0p Join Date: 2002-10-05 Member: 1439Members, Constellation
    If you can, type "gpedit.msc" in the Run box and check the security policies. Maybe restrictions have been placed on your account.
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  • BeowulfGrendelBeowulfGrendel Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13775Members, Constellation
    Is it something sucking up CPU usage, or slow HDD or .....<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • DarkATiDarkATi Revelation 22:17 Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17532Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited June 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-BeowulfGrendel+Jun 11 2004, 08:46 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BeowulfGrendel @ Jun 11 2004, 08:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Is it something sucking up CPU usage, or slow HDD or .....<!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Good question, task manager will not open to let me find out. But my HDD light doesn't blink / crunch like mad, so probably CPU.

    EDIT: Group Policy Dialog Crashes every time. <!--emo&:(--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    ~ DarkATi
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  • BeowulfGrendelBeowulfGrendel Join Date: 2003-02-20 Member: 13775Members, Constellation
    Will <a href='http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/procexp.shtml' target='_blank'>http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/procexp.shtml</a> let you see what's going on?
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  • EEKEEK Join Date: 2004-02-25 Member: 26898Banned
    edited June 2004
    Just reformat the C: drive... Reformat will pretty much ALWAYS cure your problem.
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  • DarkATiDarkATi Revelation 22:17 Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17532Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-EEK+Jun 11 2004, 09:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ Jun 11 2004, 09:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Just reformat the C: drive... Reformat will pretty much ALWAYS cure your problem. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yes and then I lose ALL MY DATA... I'd rather not do that...

    As for that prog, yes it works fine but my comp freezes after about 10 seconds, from what I could see nothing but System Idle Process was using more than 5 percent CPU Power. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    ~ DarkATi
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  • EEKEEK Join Date: 2004-02-25 Member: 26898Banned
    edited June 2004
    Dude, you store everything on your C: drive? Wow... you art teh computar nubtart...

    Just boot it in frickin' safe mode and back it up... consider your computer problems a lesson in partitioning drives.
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  • DarkATiDarkATi Revelation 22:17 Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17532Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    edited June 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-EEK+Jun 11 2004, 09:19 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ Jun 11 2004, 09:19 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Dude, you store everything on your C: drive? Wow... you art teh computar nubtart... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    No, but I store some on my C Drive, I fail to see how that makes me a nubtart. I have 5 partitions, their isn't much on my C Drive but enough to warrant too much hassle if their is a solution readily available for whatever I have.

    I should have said, "Then I lose ALL MY DATA ON C Drive" but I thought it was clear enough. I hate reformats, too much hassle for my taste...

    ~ DarkATi
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  • EEKEEK Join Date: 2004-02-25 Member: 26898Banned
    Consider this - I can reformat and reinstall everything that needs to be reinstalled in an hour. If you needed to do some backups, tack on another hour. If you don't find a solution, and most likely you won't, within two, even three hours, then... yeah....
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  • DarkATiDarkATi Revelation 22:17 Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17532Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-EEK+Jun 11 2004, 09:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ Jun 11 2004, 09:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Consider this - I can reformat and reinstall everything that needs to be reinstalled in an hour. If you needed to do some backups, tack on another hour. If you don't find a solution, and most likely you won't, within two, even three hours, then... yeah.... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    OK, so let's say I do this, I have programs that have data saved somewhere in their directory structure, like my homeschooling course. All my grades saved and everything. If I just copy that folder can you ensure me the safe return of my grades? If you can then I guess I'll go for it...

    ~ DarkATi
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  • EEKEEK Join Date: 2004-02-25 Member: 26898Banned
    edited June 2004
    Most likely. The only programs I have that don't function after a reformat is Adobe Photoshop (something about missing personalisation information, lost in registry wipe) and games that need a CD Key. And sometimes not even them.
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  • DarkATiDarkATi Revelation 22:17 Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17532Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    So much for Windows Backup Util...

    <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Backup Status
    Operation: Backup
    Active backup destination: File
    Media name: "IMPORTANT.bkf created 6/11/2004 at 9:28 PM"


    Error returned while creating the volume shadow copy:Catastrophic failure


    Aborting Backup.

    ----------------------

    The operation did not successfully complete.

    ----------------------<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

    ~ DarkATi
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  • EEKEEK Join Date: 2004-02-25 Member: 26898Banned
    Oh BTW: You CAN reinstall windows without formatting the C: drive, FYI. It's just not as clean.
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  • DarkATiDarkATi Revelation 22:17 Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17532Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-EEK+Jun 11 2004, 09:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ Jun 11 2004, 09:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Oh BTW: You CAN reinstall windows without formatting the C: drive, FYI. It's just not as clean. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hmmm... that sounds safer... what are the odds that will help?

    ~ DarkATi
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  • DarkATiDarkATi Revelation 22:17 Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17532Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    Today is just not my day, I can't find my XP CD... jeebus... *sigh*

    ~ DarkATi
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  • EEKEEK Join Date: 2004-02-25 Member: 26898Banned
    <!--QuoteBegin-DarkATi+Jun 11 2004, 09:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DarkATi @ Jun 11 2004, 09:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-EEK+Jun 11 2004, 09:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ Jun 11 2004, 09:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Oh BTW: You CAN reinstall windows without formatting the C: drive, FYI. It's just not as clean. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hmmm... that sounds safer... what are the odds that will help?

    ~ DarkATi <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I prefer the total wipe since it's like giving your system an enema. All the clogged up **** is absolutely guarenteed to get flushed out.

    Just reinstalling XP will probably do the same thing performance-wise. Since it loses the registry, any hidden viruses or something will usually not work, but any nasty or garbage files on the system will still be there.

    Either way, I'd back up important files and dump them on another drive temp just in case...
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  • DarkATiDarkATi Revelation 22:17 Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17532Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-EEK+Jun 11 2004, 09:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ Jun 11 2004, 09:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-DarkATi+Jun 11 2004, 09:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DarkATi @ Jun 11 2004, 09:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-EEK+Jun 11 2004, 09:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (EEK @ Jun 11 2004, 09:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Oh BTW: You CAN reinstall windows without formatting the C: drive, FYI. It's just not as clean. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hmmm... that sounds safer... what are the odds that will help?

    ~ DarkATi <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I prefer the total wipe since it's like giving your system an enema. All the clogged up **** is absolutely guarenteed to get flushed out.

    Just reinstalling XP will probably do the same thing performance-wise. Since it loses the registry, any hidden viruses or something will usually not work, but any nasty or garbage files on the system will still be there.

    Either way, I'd back up important files and dump them on another drive temp just in case... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Well, I can't find my XP CD so now I'm really up a creek... oh man, these are the days I wish I'd never woken up, just kept on sleepin'...

    ~ DarkATi
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  • DarkATiDarkATi Revelation 22:17 Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17532Members, Reinforced - Shadow
    *walks in, ashamed...*OK, so perhaps my virus definitions were NOT up-to-date, I have since updated them and I have found OVER 20 DIFFERENT Viruses and Trojans on my system, from harmless annoyance causing virii to more severe explorer.exe residing bugs...

    We'll see how she performs after I nuke these bad boys...

    ~ DarkATi
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