FamDiaper-Wearing Dog On A BallJoin Date: 2002-02-17Member: 222Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
edited August 2004
<!--QuoteBegin-Nz-Nexus+Aug 2 2004, 03:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Nz-Nexus @ Aug 2 2004, 03:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-BlackPlague+Aug 2 2004, 03:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BlackPlague @ Aug 2 2004, 03:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> jezpah, go f ur self. i can use the textures if i want to also. YOU cant tell us if we can or cant, its OUR maps. so if you dont like it, dont say anything about it you nut tard.
gj on the maps nex! ^_^ keep it up, dont let theses cough retards cough put ya down. they are just jealous that they cant map like you. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> I dont cares what other says about the LOGo's. I wanna hear From The Mighty KFS if its true so its confirmed and removed then.
thanks <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> black-p <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> As the original texture artist for both the Eclipse wall_lab logo, and also the screen textures for ns_eclipse and for ns_veil, I ask you not to use those textures. They were created specifically for use in those maps, and I would like them to remain solely for their original purpose. Just to stop the arguing once and for all.
Everyone else: Please stop arguing and being rambly. And stop swearing. Or this thread will be locked.
<!--QuoteBegin-BlackPlague+Aug 2 2004, 10:59 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BlackPlague @ Aug 2 2004, 10:59 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> jezpah, hope you can get the finger out of ur **** since all you do is talk ****.....
come on guys, stop spamming the damn post. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> i think you mean "thread" not "post"
So fast the map is ready and done. Then the map gonna explode like a supernova on this Forum. Im making the best to get the map done soon. And dont worry, before i will release the map i shall remove those damn logos and make my own one.
Now... let's see, hmmm, for example... <a href='http://www.voogru.com' target='_blank'>http://www.voogru.com</a>
WOW, WHAT AN AWESOME DESIGN COMPANY BLACK-PLAGUE, ALL YOUR COMMENTS ARE SO MATURE AND YOU USE SO LITTLE SWEARING IN THEM EVERYONE TAKES YOU SERIOUSLY...
ok ask me if i care.... UP too late, dont care. and yeah i payed for the same site too. so go shove that finger back in ur butt cuz thats the only thing you ever do, finger ur self and act like a total idiot. oh wait im sorry, did i say act, i meant to say ARE.
<!--QuoteBegin-BlackPlague+Aug 2 2004, 06:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BlackPlague @ Aug 2 2004, 06:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i payed for the same site too. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Really? The author doesn't say that!
[12:52] <@Tekish`isCool> wow [12:52] <@Tekish`isCool> totally ripped of my design
<!--QuoteBegin-BlackPlague+Aug 2 2004, 04:58 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BlackPlague @ Aug 2 2004, 04:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> ok ask me if i care.... UP too late, dont care. and yeah i payed for the same site too. so go shove that finger back in ur butt. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You do design, and you paid for a website design?
you do realise Nexus has made around 5 "I'm leaving forever goodbye" threads. He always comes back. He'll be back. Dont you worry about it.
Infact, he's back already. That fast huh? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Voogru is copyrighted to 2003... I beleive it is 2004. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> <a href='http://www.whatiscopyright.org' target='_blank'>http://www.whatiscopyright.org</a>
Hey BlackPlague, what exactly did you pay for? Hosting? I'd have to suggest that you remove voogru's design, or I'll revoke your hosting. Oh, and kids, play nice please.
Voogru is copyrighted to 2003... I beleive it is 2004. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <a href='http://www.whatiscopyright.org' target='_blank'>http://www.whatiscopyright.org</a> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Specifically:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->When does Copyright Protection end, or expire?
When you see several dates in a copyright statement, it simply means that certain things were created in one year and modified later. It could also mean that new things were created and added in a later year. It most definitely does not refer to the date that a copyright will expire. Expiration of a copyright actually takes place much later, and this period of validity begins from the date that you see in the copyright statement. The Berne Convention establishes a general and minimum period that lasts the life of the author and fifty years after his (or her) death. Cinematographic works and photographic works have a minimum period of protection of 50 and 25 years upon the date of creation, respectively. This applies to any country that has signed the Berne Convention, and these are just the minimum periods of protection. A member country is entitled to establish greater periods of protection, but never less than what has been established by the Berne Convention.
OMG ppl make new topic about it. Dont spam Gendo map topic :/. Nexus i realy hope you gone finish that map. I love maps like thouse, if you wish i can help you make some interesting looking logos and textures like thouse you wish to change. And about the site its not the first time and not the last time some one have new site "identical" like some one else. I think you should at least give credits to the former site crator if its not yours ofcoruse.
<!--QuoteBegin-H|CarNagE^8th+Aug 2 2004, 05:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (H|CarNagE^8th @ Aug 2 2004, 05:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> OMG ppl make new topic about it. Dont spam Gendo map topic :/. Nexus i realy hope you gone finish that map. I love maps like thouse, if you wish i can help you make some interesting looking logos and textures like thouse you wish to change. And about the site its not the first time and not the last time some one have new site "identical" like some one else. I think you should at least give credits to the former site crator if its not yours ofcoruse. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Don't confuse inspiration and blatant theft.
And some more: <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>What if I take someone else's writings, text, HTML or graphic image and change it around to suit my needs? I own the "new" version, right?</b> If you did any of that with the original owner's permission, and according to his/her terms and conditions than you own the "new" version. If not you may be committing copyright infringement and/or plagiarism.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Since, according to the author, he didn't have permission, he committed copyright infringement.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> If one copies and pastes HTML from one web page into another one may not claim copyright. It is not an original work, and may even be construed as copyright infringement.
There is one thing that must be clarified, though. If you see a certain page layout and like the way it looks, you could "legally" reproduce something similar if you write the coding all by yourself without copying any of the source code from the original page. The actual intangible idea may not be copyrighted. What is copyrighted is the tangible result of the idea, which would be the layout written out in HTML coding and saved to a hard drive. That means no copying and pasting of another person's source code. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> So unless he can prove that he rewrote the template from scratch...
And on the US Department of Justice page on <a href='http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/intell_prop_rts/SectIII.htm' target='_blank'>Copyright Infringement</a> in regards to criminal prosecution:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Beyond demonstrating willfulness, the government must prove that the defendant engaged in an act of infringement "for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain." See 17 U.S.C. § 506(a). Here the emphasis should be placed on "purposes," for it is irrelevant whether any profit was, in fact, realized.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> He used the design for a company website, which implies a desire for financial gain.
As for penalties: <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->A defendant, convicted for the first time of violating 17 U.S.C. § 506, can be imprisoned for up to 5 years and fined $250,000 or both for the unauthorized reproduction or distribution, during any 180-day period, of at least 10 copies or phonorecords, or 1 or more copyrighted works, with a retail value of more than $2,500.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> And if the author cannot prove a retail value of over $2500:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Finally, a defendant found guilty of a misdemeanor violation can be sentenced to up to one year imprisonment and fined up to $100,000. A misdemeanor violation occurs if the defendant violated rights other than those of reproduction or distribution; if he made or distributed fewer than the requisite number of copies; or if the copies did not meet the statutory minimum value<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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gj on the maps nex! ^_^ keep it up, dont let theses cough retards cough put ya down. they are just jealous that they cant map like you. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I dont cares what other says about the LOGo's. I wanna hear From The Mighty KFS if its true so its confirmed and removed then.
thanks <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> black-p <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
As the original texture artist for both the Eclipse wall_lab logo, and also the screen textures for ns_eclipse and for ns_veil, I ask you not to use those textures. They were created specifically for use in those maps, and I would like them to remain solely for their original purpose. Just to stop the arguing once and for all.
Everyone else: Please stop arguing and being rambly. And stop swearing. Or this thread will be locked.
come on guys, stop spamming the damn post. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
i think you mean "thread" not "post"
mmmmm... another new mapper chased out by the likes of JezPuh....
*sighs* Nexus, I hope ya don't give up... don't give em the satisfaction !
Give em hell, then show em what you can do!
*wonders when the mods will do something about the shat talkers*
Thanks Black-P. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
So fast the map is ready and done. Then the map gonna explode like a supernova on this Forum.
Im making the best to get the map done soon.
And dont worry, before i will release the map i shall remove those damn logos and make my own one.
/nz-Nexus <!--emo&::tsa::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tsa.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tsa.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Let's take a look at your "company site":
<a href='http://www.mxs.us/bpdesigns/index2.php?page=Welcome' target='_blank'>http://www.mxs.us/bpdesigns/index2.php?page=Welcome</a>
Now... let's see, hmmm, for example... <a href='http://www.voogru.com' target='_blank'>http://www.voogru.com</a>
WOW, WHAT AN AWESOME DESIGN COMPANY BLACK-PLAGUE, ALL YOUR COMMENTS ARE SO MATURE AND YOU USE SO LITTLE SWEARING IN THEM EVERYONE TAKES YOU SERIOUSLY...
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->©2004-2006. BPDesigns INC. Site Designed by Black-Plague Designs.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
lol, sure!
Edit: Sorry for going off-topic...
Really? The author doesn't say that!
[12:52] <@Tekish`isCool> wow
[12:52] <@Tekish`isCool> totally ripped of my design
[13:02] <@Tekish`isCool> i received no such payment
oh, look whos smart now.
[13:02] <@Tekish`isCool> inform him of my pending lawsuit
[13:02] <@Tekish`isCool> <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
You do design, and you paid for a website design?
EDIT: Hangover causes poor spelling and grammar.
Infact, he's back already. That fast huh? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<u>Voogru</u>
Copyright © 2002-2003. All Rights Reserved.
Website Design by ITB Webdesign Services.
42,493 Page views since Feb. 14th 2004
<u>BlackPlague</u>
©2004-2006. BPDesigns INC. Site Designed by Black-Plague Designs.
Voogru is copyrighted to 2003... I beleive it is 2004.
<u>Voogru</u>
Copyright © 2002-2003. All Rights Reserved.
Website Design by ITB Webdesign Services.
42,493 Page views since Feb. 14th 2004
<u>BlackPlague</u>
©2004-2006. BPDesigns INC. Site Designed by Black-Plague Designs.
Voogru is copyrighted to 2003... I beleive it is 2004. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
<a href='http://www.whatiscopyright.org' target='_blank'>http://www.whatiscopyright.org</a>
<u>Voogru</u>
Copyright © 2002-2003. All Rights Reserved.
Website Design by ITB Webdesign Services.
42,493 Page views since Feb. 14th 2004
<u>BlackPlague</u>
©2004-2006. BPDesigns INC. Site Designed by Black-Plague Designs.
Voogru is copyrighted to 2003... I beleive it is 2004. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<a href='http://www.whatiscopyright.org' target='_blank'>http://www.whatiscopyright.org</a> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Specifically:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->When does Copyright Protection end, or expire?
If a copyright statement reads, "© Copyright 1998, 1999 John Smith." does that mean that John Smith's copyright expired in 1999? <b>The dates that you see in a copyright statement do not refer to the dates that the owner's material will expire and become public domain - they actually refer to the dates that the material was created.</b>
When you see several dates in a copyright statement, it simply means that certain things were created in one year and modified later. It could also mean that new things were created and added in a later year. It most definitely does not refer to the date that a copyright will expire. Expiration of a copyright actually takes place much later, and this period of validity begins from the date that you see in the copyright statement. The Berne Convention establishes a general and minimum period that lasts the life of the author and fifty years after his (or her) death. Cinematographic works and photographic works have a minimum period of protection of 50 and 25 years upon the date of creation, respectively. This applies to any country that has signed the Berne Convention, and these are just the minimum periods of protection. A member country is entitled to establish greater periods of protection, but never less than what has been established by the Berne Convention.
So, what does all this mean? This means that if a copyright statement reads, "© Copyright 1998, 1999 John Smith" and John Smith is from a country that has signed the Berne Convention, he created his works in 1998 and 1999, and his copyright is not going to expire until at least fifty years after he dies (this period may be greater - remember that member countries may establish longer periods of protection). Until that time his works are not in public domain.
I have actually seen copyright statements with future dates, such as "© Copyright 2003, 2004 John Smith", most likely because the copyright holder thought that they could establish an expiration date for the copyright. This is incorrect unless John Smith traveled to the future and created the work in question. These types of copyright statements also mislead others to believe that dates in a copyright statement refer to the date a copyright expire, when the date should really refer to the date of creation.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nexus i realy hope you gone finish that map. I love maps like thouse, if you wish i can help you make some interesting looking logos and textures like thouse you wish to change. And about the site its not the first time and not the last time some one have new site "identical" like some one else. I think you should at least give credits to the former site crator if its not yours ofcoruse.
Nexus i realy hope you gone finish that map. I love maps like thouse, if you wish i can help you make some interesting looking logos and textures like thouse you wish to change. And about the site its not the first time and not the last time some one have new site "identical" like some one else. I think you should at least give credits to the former site crator if its not yours ofcoruse. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Don't confuse inspiration and blatant theft.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>What if I take someone else's writings, text, HTML or graphic image and change it around to suit my needs? I own the "new" version, right?</b>
If you did any of that with the original owner's permission, and according to his/her terms and conditions than you own the "new" version. If not you may be committing copyright infringement and/or plagiarism.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Since, according to the author, he didn't have permission, he committed copyright infringement.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->
If one copies and pastes HTML from one web page into another one may not claim copyright. It is not an original work, and may even be construed as copyright infringement.
There is one thing that must be clarified, though. If you see a certain page layout and like the way it looks, you could "legally" reproduce something similar if you write the coding all by yourself without copying any of the source code from the original page. The actual intangible idea may not be copyrighted. What is copyrighted is the tangible result of the idea, which would be the layout written out in HTML coding and saved to a hard drive. That means no copying and pasting of another person's source code. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So unless he can prove that he rewrote the template from scratch...
And on the US Department of Justice page on <a href='http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/cybercrime/intell_prop_rts/SectIII.htm' target='_blank'>Copyright Infringement</a> in regards to criminal prosecution:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Beyond demonstrating willfulness, the government must prove that the defendant engaged in an act of infringement "for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain." See 17 U.S.C. § 506(a). Here the emphasis should be placed on "purposes," for it is irrelevant whether any profit was, in fact, realized.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
He used the design for a company website, which implies a desire for financial gain.
As for penalties:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->A defendant, convicted for the first time of violating 17 U.S.C. § 506, can be imprisoned for up to 5 years and fined $250,000 or both for the unauthorized reproduction or distribution, during any 180-day period, of at least 10 copies or phonorecords, or 1 or more copyrighted works, with a retail value of more than $2,500.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And if the author cannot prove a retail value of over $2500:
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Finally, a defendant found guilty of a misdemeanor violation can be sentenced to up to one year imprisonment and fined up to $100,000. A misdemeanor violation occurs if the defendant violated rights other than those of reproduction or distribution; if he made or distributed fewer than the requisite number of copies; or if the copies did not meet the statutory minimum value<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Edit: Wow. Spelling.
Insteand can someone move this topic to off-topic then if black-plague is really anoying. But this thread is a mess now. I need a new one. I hopes.