<!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jun 1 2004, 08:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jun 1 2004, 08:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Chick has clearly never played a game of D&D in his life. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Obviously. Darkleaf should have gotten a Reflex check, and, even if that failed, a Fortitude save versus Poison.
And, hello?! The other girl is a cleric! Raise Dead? True Ressurection? WISH?!
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<!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+Jun 1 2004, 10:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ Jun 1 2004, 10:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jun 1 2004, 08:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jun 1 2004, 08:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Chick has clearly never played a game of D&D in his life. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Obviously. Darkleaf should have gotten a Reflex check, and, even if that failed, a Fortitude save versus Poison.
And, hello?! The other girl is a cleric! Raise Dead? True Ressurection? WISH?!
<!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+Jun 1 2004, 10:48 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ Jun 1 2004, 10:48 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Roman Catholic Church the original religion derived from Jesus who made Peter the first pope? And that all the other christian protestant churches came about only as a result of oppression by English kings? <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> If you're saying that Catholicism was the first religion that followed Jesus Christ (thought it should be noted they follow Him very loosely), you are incorrect. There were certainly religions started after the Catholic church was founded, but true Bible believing followers of Christ were not brought forth from the Catholic church, but rather survived through the oppression of the Dark Ages.
Well, no, of course not. I'd assume that the first religion to follow Jesus would be those of the Jewish faith...
Of course, there is absolutely no way to anything because, as I continuously maintain, the Bible should be interpreted as a religious document, and not a document regarding history or science.
Science, science, science. Everybody worries about scientific truths. That's an oxymoron. What is scientifically true today will be found untrue tomorrow, yet science is used as the foundation of all arguments for (and often against) evolution. It's similar to building a house on a rotting foundation.
<!--QuoteBegin-Narfwak+Jun 1 2004, 10:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Narfwak @ Jun 1 2004, 10:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+Jun 1 2004, 09:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ Jun 1 2004, 09:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Okay, I found one that was actually funny: <a href='http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.asp' target='_blank'>http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.asp</a>
OH NOES! ALL MY D&D ARE BELONG TO SATAN!!1 <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <i>That's</i> a good one. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I might have found that funny if I didn't know that he was serious...
<!--QuoteBegin-SkulkBait+Jun 1 2004, 11:44 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (SkulkBait @ Jun 1 2004, 11:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+Jun 1 2004, 09:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ Jun 1 2004, 09:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Okay, I found one that was actually funny: <a href='http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.asp' target='_blank'>http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.asp</a>
OH NOES! ALL MY D&D ARE BELONG TO SATAN!!1 <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> The tract certainly went overboard, but it does bear some grounds in reality. I've never been allowed to play Dungeons and Dragons because of the spellcasting. Don't want to, either. I don't meddle with witchcraft.
Just because it's played in game form doesn't mean that it doesn't teach one complacency with witchcraft. I'm not saying that it actually teaches one actual spells, but rather that it familiarizes young adults with witchcraft, which is a dangerous thing to do.
No, it really doesn't. The people who "experiment" have other issues.
I mean, by your logic, games like Half-Life familiarize people with violence, dismemberment, and disregard for human life, which is a "dangerous thing".
Seeing how this is a forum for a modification of Half-Life, I don't think you can say you are uninvolved.
Now, what is more to worry about, "experimenting with witchcraft" (which is widely regarded to be just wishful thinking), or the desensitizing to death and gore, which can be achieved in real life?
I don't want to mess with witchcraft at all. There are forces beyond my control that can harm me. Note: <b>I can't control those forces</b>. They are not to be trifled with.
I <b>can</b> control videogames. I am accountable for my own behavior. However, if I exhibit signs of violent behavior that are related to that game, it's no longer played. Simple as that.
Besides, I don't play Natural Selection anyway. I quit playing it around a year ago, I think.
<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Jun 2 2004, 12:05 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Jun 2 2004, 12:05 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I don't want to mess with witchcraft at all. There are forces beyond my control that can harm me. Note: <b>I can't control those forces</b>. They are not to be trifled with. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> And also: Beware the lepricons....
<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Jun 1 2004, 09:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Jun 1 2004, 09:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I <b>can</b> control videogames. I am accountable for my own behavior. However, if I exhibit signs of violent behavior that are related to that game, it's no longer played. Simple as that. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> If I may:
I <b>can</b> control <span style='color:white'>Pen 'n Paper RPGs</span>. I am accountable for my own behavior. However, if I exhibit signs of <span style='color:white'>Psychotic or Schizophrenic</span> behaviors <span style='color:white'>in which I begin to lose touch with reality, and begin to believe that the forces in D&D are real</span> that are related to that game, it's no longer played. Simple as that.
Negative. It's not that simple. Can you control me? No. How then can you control the spirit world, with which witchcraft directly connects? <b>You can't.</b> Not without endangering yourself more than you know. That was my point, and it still stands.
To make me fear the "Spirit World", you must first prove to me it exists.
Such a concept has no basis in anything scientific whatso ever. I can't believe that the electrical and chemical impulses in the brain will not only survive after the organism ceases to function, but also be able to interact with percievable matter and energy.
*sniff* This trail might pick up on teh Harry Potter books soon. I'll think I'll watch a bit of 8-bit D&D theatre on Newgrounds. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+Jun 2 2004, 12:28 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ Jun 2 2004, 12:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>To make me fear the "Spirit World", you must first prove to me it exists.</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You thought I was telling you not to do something? I can't control you. I was telling you what I believe.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Such a concept has no basis in anything scientific whatso ever.</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> See my previous post. I don't base my beliefs on the science of man. It is fallible, it is fleeting, it is found to be untrue.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>I can't believe that the electrical and chemical impulses in the brain will not only survive after the organism ceases to function, but also be able to interact with percievable matter and energy.</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Okay.
<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Jun 1 2004, 09:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Jun 1 2004, 09:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Such a concept has no basis in anything scientific whatso ever.</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> See my previous post. I don't base my beliefs on the science of man. It is fallible, it is fleeting, it is found to be untrue. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> The reason it is fallible, fleeting, and occaisonially untrue is because of its very nature. Science is all about the formation of hypothesis, the testing of these hypothesis, and then either validation or rejection.
No system, any where at any time has ever gotten it right the first time. Anything in the history of humanity has had some trial and error.
As for beliefs based on things other than the "science of man", it is equally unfounded, and almost always proved to be untrue, with little room for rebuttal.
<!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+Jun 1 2004, 11:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ Jun 1 2004, 11:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Swiftspear+Jun 1 2004, 08:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Swiftspear @ Jun 1 2004, 08:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Chick has clearly never played a game of D&D in his life. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Obviously. Darkleaf should have gotten a Reflex check, and, even if that failed, a Fortitude save versus Poison.
And, hello?! The other girl is a cleric! Raise Dead? True Ressurection? WISH?!
Honestly... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Nothing beats the power of DM fudging.
Nothing.
Except maybe the "If you get the DM a mountain dew, you get a +20 on your next roll"
<!--QuoteBegin-Mantrid+Jun 2 2004, 12:34 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mantrid @ Jun 2 2004, 12:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>The reason it is fallible, fleeting, and occaisonially untrue is because of its very nature. Science is all about the formation of hypothesis, the testing of these hypothesis, and then either validation or rejection.</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yet you keep addressing science as if it is true, not uncertain. And once again, I don't care about science!
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>As for beliefs based on things other than the "science of man", it is equally unfounded, and almost always proved to be untrue, with little room for rebuttal.</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Hehe, I don't <b>need</b> to rebut anything concerning what I believe. It's what I believe, that's it. I know it's true.
And how exactly do you prove what I believe is untrue? Through science?
Eh. About witchcraft and D&D...D&D is no more witchcraft than watching DBZ makes you a supersaiyan. I'm not saying that witchcraft doesn't exist, or isn't dangerous/wrong to meddle with, but a game is just that...a game.
If you obsess over it, then you might have some problems...but that's a different issue.
<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Jun 1 2004, 09:41 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Jun 1 2004, 09:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yet you keep addressing science as if it is true, not uncertain. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> And you keep addressing your beliefs as if they are also certain.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And once again, I don't care about science!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, then this is all rather pointless then, isn't it? I have no desire to argue with someone who will not even take into consideration the sum of all human understanding.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And how exactly do you prove what I believe is untrue? Through science?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Again, I don't fight pointless battles. Since you are resigned to denying yourself of common sense, I shall bid you good day.
<!--QuoteBegin-Wheeee+Jun 2 2004, 12:46 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Wheeee @ Jun 2 2004, 12:46 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Eh. About witchcraft and D&D...D&D is no more witchcraft than watching DBZ makes you a supersaiyan. I'm not saying that witchcraft doesn't exist, or isn't dangerous/wrong to meddle with, but a game is just that...a game. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> I feel differently.
I can understand people getting freaked out of Ouijia boards or even Tarot cards, but getting freaked out over a 12 sided dice for reasons other than the questionable personal hygine of the dungeon master is just silly. :P
And I apologize in advance to any this might offend: <img src='http://www.chick.com/tractimages86211/1018/1018_14.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' /> Grrr! He <b>must</b> be stopped!
I didn't know that a cross dressing osama bin laden disguised as a nun was witnessing Christ's resurrection. Or sleepwalking. Whatever is going on there. :P
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Obviously. Darkleaf should have gotten a Reflex check, and, even if that failed, a Fortitude save versus Poison.
And, hello?! The other girl is a cleric! Raise Dead? True Ressurection? WISH?!
Honestly...
Obviously. Darkleaf should have gotten a Reflex check, and, even if that failed, a Fortitude save versus Poison.
And, hello?! The other girl is a cleric! Raise Dead? True Ressurection? WISH?!
Honestly... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Gotta love RPG nerds. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
If you're saying that Catholicism was the first religion that followed Jesus Christ (thought it should be noted they follow Him very loosely), you are incorrect. There were certainly religions started after the Catholic church was founded, but true Bible believing followers of Christ were not brought forth from the Catholic church, but rather survived through the oppression of the Dark Ages.
Of course, there is absolutely no way to anything because, as I continuously maintain, the Bible should be interpreted as a religious document, and not a document regarding history or science.
OH NOES! ALL MY D&D ARE BELONG TO SATAN!!1 <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<i>That's</i> a good one. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I might have found that funny if I didn't know that he was serious...
OH NOES! ALL MY D&D ARE BELONG TO SATAN!!1 <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
The tract certainly went overboard, but it does bear some grounds in reality. I've never been allowed to play Dungeons and Dragons because of the spellcasting. Don't want to, either. I don't meddle with witchcraft.
It's a game...
It has nothing to do with witchcraft, because its a game.
Its completely fake.
The only possible things it has in common with reality is ancient mythology, like a four-element system...
I mean, by your logic, games like Half-Life familiarize people with violence, dismemberment, and disregard for human life, which is a "dangerous thing".
Seeing how this is a forum for a modification of Half-Life, I don't think you can say you are uninvolved.
Now, what is more to worry about, "experimenting with witchcraft" (which is widely regarded to be just wishful thinking), or the desensitizing to death and gore, which can be achieved in real life?
I <b>can</b> control videogames. I am accountable for my own behavior. However, if I exhibit signs of violent behavior that are related to that game, it's no longer played. Simple as that.
Besides, I don't play Natural Selection anyway. I quit playing it around a year ago, I think.
read that, chillax, have a kit kat.
you wanna talk about inneresting early church, read some apocrypha, GOOD TIMES!!
And also: Beware the lepricons....
If I may:
I <b>can</b> control <span style='color:white'>Pen 'n Paper RPGs</span>. I am accountable for my own behavior. However, if I exhibit signs of <span style='color:white'>Psychotic or Schizophrenic</span> behaviors <span style='color:white'>in which I begin to lose touch with reality, and begin to believe that the forces in D&D are real</span> that are related to that game, it's no longer played. Simple as that.
Such a concept has no basis in anything scientific whatso ever. I can't believe that the electrical and chemical impulses in the brain will not only survive after the organism ceases to function, but also be able to interact with percievable matter and energy.
This trail might pick up on teh Harry Potter books soon. I'll think I'll watch a bit of 8-bit D&D theatre on Newgrounds. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
You thought I was telling you not to do something? I can't control you. I was telling you what I believe.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Such a concept has no basis in anything scientific whatso ever.</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
See my previous post. I don't base my beliefs on the science of man. It is fallible, it is fleeting, it is found to be untrue.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>I can't believe that the electrical and chemical impulses in the brain will not only survive after the organism ceases to function, but also be able to interact with percievable matter and energy.</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Okay.
See my previous post. I don't base my beliefs on the science of man. It is fallible, it is fleeting, it is found to be untrue. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
The reason it is fallible, fleeting, and occaisonially untrue is because of its very nature. Science is all about the formation of hypothesis, the testing of these hypothesis, and then either validation or rejection.
No system, any where at any time has ever gotten it right the first time. Anything in the history of humanity has had some trial and error.
As for beliefs based on things other than the "science of man", it is equally unfounded, and almost always proved to be untrue, with little room for rebuttal.
Obviously. Darkleaf should have gotten a Reflex check, and, even if that failed, a Fortitude save versus Poison.
And, hello?! The other girl is a cleric! Raise Dead? True Ressurection? WISH?!
Honestly... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nothing beats the power of DM fudging.
Nothing.
Except maybe the "If you get the DM a mountain dew, you get a +20 on your next roll"
Yet you keep addressing science as if it is true, not uncertain. And once again, I don't care about science!
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><b>As for beliefs based on things other than the "science of man", it is equally unfounded, and almost always proved to be untrue, with little room for rebuttal.</b><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hehe, I don't <b>need</b> to rebut anything concerning what I believe. It's what I believe, that's it. I know it's true.
And how exactly do you prove what I believe is untrue? Through science?
If you obsess over it, then you might have some problems...but that's a different issue.
And you keep addressing your beliefs as if they are also certain.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> And once again, I don't care about science!<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, then this is all rather pointless then, isn't it? I have no desire to argue with someone who will not even take into consideration the sum of all human understanding.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->And how exactly do you prove what I believe is untrue? Through science?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Again, I don't fight pointless battles. Since you are resigned to denying yourself of common sense, I shall bid you good day.
I feel differently.
<span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>*DRAGS THIS BACK ONTOPIC*</span>
And I apologize in advance to any this might offend:
<img src='http://www.chick.com/tractimages86211/1018/1018_14.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
Grrr! He <b>must</b> be stopped!
I didn't know that a cross dressing osama bin laden disguised as a nun was witnessing Christ's resurrection. Or sleepwalking. Whatever is going on there. :P