Guilty Gear Isuka

OmegamanOmegaman Join Date: 2004-01-11 Member: 25239Members
edited June 2004 in Off-Topic
<div class="IPBDescription">Teh pwn!</div> <a href='http://www.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_guiltygear_isuka.html' target='_blank'>http://www.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_guiltygear_isuka.html</a>

Oh yes, we loveses our trailers! Trailers are good for us!

Yes, this game is so going to rock.

EDIT: <a href='http://www.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_guiltygear_isuka.wmv' target='_blank'>WMV Version</a>
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  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    2D fighting anime characters...

    No thanks *gag*
  • RustySpoonRustySpoon Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18069Members
    Sprite fights in 2004?

    I'll go get out my super nintendo...
  • Paranoia2MBParanoia2MB Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7832Members
    You Guilty Gear haters !!!
    /kills <!--emo&::asrifle::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/asrifle.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='asrifle.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Leaderz0rzLeaderz0rz Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7847Members
    don't diss 2d fighters, they were the original and argubly still the best fighters, go back to playing dead or alive or somthing
  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    Nah, I think I'll play Mortal Kombat.

    I have nothing against 2D fighters. I have somthing against them on modern systems, and I hate anime.
  • Leaderz0rzLeaderz0rz Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7847Members
    just becuase it uses that art style isn't a reason to hate it, and there is no reason why 2d fighters shouldn't be made for the new systems.
  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    Other than new systems are new... and 2d is... not... Like I said, /me goes to play Mortal Kombat...
  • Seph_KimaraSeph_Kimara Join Date: 2003-08-10 Member: 19359Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Caboose+Jun 1 2004, 08:01 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Jun 1 2004, 08:01 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Nah, I think I'll play Mortal Kombat.

    I have nothing against 2D fighters. I have somthing against them on modern systems, and I hate anime. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Go cry me a river.

    Or at least a puddle.

    A damp spot?
  • DraconisDraconis Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13722Members, Reinforced - Onos
    Faust has a new overdrive? O.o damn i need to pratice my Faust then <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Any indications on how this will play? will it be 2 levels, with 2 1vs1 in each level?
  • LikuLiku I, am the Somberlain. Join Date: 2003-01-10 Member: 12128Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Caboose+Jun 1 2004, 01:09 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Jun 1 2004, 01:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Other than new systems are new... and 2d is... not... Like I said, /me goes to play Mortal Kombat... <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    3D's not new either.

    The link doesn't work.
  • OmegamanOmegaman Join Date: 2004-01-11 Member: 25239Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Liku+Jun 1 2004, 05:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Liku @ Jun 1 2004, 05:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> The link doesn't work. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Try again, it should.
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    No worky and anyone who disrespects Guilty Gear without playing it, or even waffles about 2D being wrong on new systems needs a reality check.

    "OMG 2D IT IS TEH OLD!!!"
    yeah because we know there's tons of 3D titles that are better than secret of mana, the original bomberman games, zelda link to the past, gunstar heroes and whatnot... Oh wait there isn't =P

    "ROFLMAO IT HAS TEH ANIME"
    I too regulary deprive myself of good games based entirely off some childish dislike for an art style! honest!!! really!!!

    Remember kids, the first step to having a problem with wearing blinkers is admitting you're narrow minded, the road to recovery extends from there =D


    Honestly though, if you don't like fighting games, that's a legitamite complaint. Anything else like the above is just being ignorant.
  • OmegamanOmegaman Join Date: 2004-01-11 Member: 25239Members
    edited June 2004
    Okay, see if this works:

    <a href='http://www.gametrailers.com/gt_vault/t_guiltygear_isuka.wmv' target='_blank'>WMV Version</a>
  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    Like I said, If I want 2D, I'll start up my SNES.. I guess PS2 isn't much over that tho... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Ok, I give, since it's for PS2, it's ok <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    I still would rather play Mortal Kombat tho.
  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    I will destroy anyone who bad mouths GG....not <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Seriously, don't judge something by how it looks. If you do, you could lose out something great. Likewise goes for cool-looking games with crappy gameplay.

    I mean, yeesh, FFX had good graphics, but it certainly didn't beat FF6j/FF3 in terms of storyline, gameplay, character development, blablabla....

    So yeah, don't judge things by how they look.

    Back on topic....whee GGI <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
    Better start practising again. Good thing I'm getting it before j00 guys because I'm closer to Japan <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • OmegamanOmegaman Join Date: 2004-01-11 Member: 25239Members
    So...Anyone previously having problems with it...Does it work?
  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Geminosity+Jun 2 2004, 01:36 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Geminosity @ Jun 2 2004, 01:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Honestly though, if you don't like fighting games, that's a legitamite complaint. Anything else like the above is just being ignorant. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    I fail to see the "ignorance" in not liking the graphics of a title.

    Nowadays everyone is always like "Wow, I'm all uppity and pretend that I don't care about how freaking ugly a game is, because it makes me feel elite to put gameplay over graphics," and it kind of annoys me.

    Not saying that GG is a bad game, or ugly, but c'mon, if you don't like the art style of a game, it's not being ignorant. It's having an opinion on what looks good and what doesn't. Same thing goes for anime-styled games. Some people just don't like them.
  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    Thank you Duff-Man. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    That's exactly it.
  • SycophantSycophant Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7092Members
    edited June 2004
    Hmmm .... I read the first post, watched the trailer, then read the replies. So I guess it looks like I'm one of the few here that is actually looking forward to trying out this game? <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    Then I got to thinking - okay, so because this game is lacking things in its genre and/or description such as "massively-multiplayer", "intelligent AI", and "realistic weapons", that means it's not even worth trying?

    Okay, gather around kids, and all us old gamers will tell you a story of how games <i>used</i> to be. Back in our day, games were fun, and, believe it or not, every second new game in the store didn't require a monthly subscription fee to play!! Sure, these newfangled "graphics" nowadays are prettier than <i>our</i> games, but we were still able to play ours and enjoy them. Every time.

    Our controllers didn't have more buttons than we had fingers. Our consoles didn't need to be replaced as soon as some sensitive component went wrong either. If our consoles ever became finicky, simply open the slot, blow in the hole, replace the cartridge! Voila!

    Do I have a point? Sure. You can say this game sucks because it's similar to 90's games, but that doesn't make you right. All that really accomplishes is it makes you look like a narrow-minded moron for refusing to even try it.
  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
    edited June 2004
    Man, he has a right to criticize the art style, that's all I'm saying.

    Does it make him narrow-minded for not trying <i>everything</i> before judging? Maybe.

    Does it make him a moron? No.

    <b>Edit:</b> A wee correction.
  • SycophantSycophant Join Date: 2002-11-05 Member: 7092Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Duff-Man+Jun 2 2004, 05:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Duff-Man @ Jun 2 2004, 05:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Man, he has a right to criticize the art style, that's all I'm saying.

    Does it make him narrow-minded for not trying <i>everything</i> before judging? Maybe.

    Does it make him a moron? No.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Hmmm yeah, that wasn't the word I meant to use. Sorry.

    I'm all for everyone having their own opinions, but at least back it up if you want to share that opinion on a public board where people <i>will</i> reply!! I haven't read anything yet other than first impressions about the graphics style from the 30-second trailer.

    Leaving a single comment that you won't like the game, fine. We now know your stance. Repeatedly driving the point home in the same topic now means you're involved in the conversation, so now explain the reasoning. Simple. Why will deciding on 2D cause this game to suck? How will using an anime style get this game pushed to the bargain bin? How would you do it better? Is there <i>anything</i> you liked about what you saw?

    It's like someone saying that NS sucks simply because its a FPS or because its got a top-down view. We all know there's a lot more to NS than what the non-NS'ers have seen in screenshots, but I'm sure there are people that have bashed NS simply because of what they've seen instead of actually <i>trying</i> it.
  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    It just looks lieka carbon copy fighting game to me, with the exception that it uses a style of art that I am not fond of...

    Mortal kombat 3 has most if not all of the features that this game has, and it has Sub Zero!!!

    It could try to be original. If it wants an anime style, why not make it in 3d and cell shade it? It gets the same anime thing across, but it can take fuller advantage of the hardware.
  • DraconisDraconis Join Date: 2003-02-18 Member: 13722Members, Reinforced - Onos
    edited June 2004
    <!--QuoteBegin-Caboose+Jun 2 2004, 10:54 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Caboose @ Jun 2 2004, 10:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It just looks lieka carbon copy fighting game to me, with the exception that it uses a style of art that I am not fond of... <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Sorry to disaapoint you, GGX and GGXX franchise are NOT carbon copy <b>by far</b>. In fact they are surely the most original and balanced fighter game created since a very long time <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->.

    MK hasnt got the quarter of GGX features (http://www.sirlin.net/Features/feature_GameBalancePart2.htm)
  • Leaderz0rzLeaderz0rz Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7847Members
    if you were even an average fighting game player you would know all mortal combat games were broken in a number of ways, and any skilled player could take advantage of the problems and make it zero fun for people.
  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    Only if you suck...
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    Not liking the anime graphics is one thing but if someone totally skipped a game for it then it's their loss and yes it's narrow-minded. I didn't exactly think neocron was hot stuff art/graphics wise but I certainly enjoyed playing it =3

    Hate on "gameplay > graphics" as a form of elitism if you want but I'd rather play bubble bobble with it's horrible pixels over something pretty but dull. Given the choice what would you honestly rather play? A game that bores you but looks nice or a game that you don't particularly appreciate the art of but is damn good fun? =P
    Is it really an elitist fad when you think about it or is it just common sense?

    I've held the belief all my gaming life so it's hardly some 'nowaday upitty' thing for me <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • pardzhpardzh Join Date: 2002-10-25 Member: 1601Members
    Meh, I'm not saying I'd choose graphics over gameplay by a longshot.

    I'm just defending the fact that graphics do indeed play a factor in what games I choose to play. If there's a game I'm playing that I'm kinda on the fence about, and it has barf for graphics, I think I'm going to be putting it down. It's not "Gameplay > Graphics" for me, it's "Gameplay + Graphics," it's just what makes the most sense.

    <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    Again the Simpsons Beer man pulld through.. Ooooooh Yea!!!

    It also looks like it has a story/plot... I don't want a story/plot in a fignting game... I wanna fight some stuff... And My SNES gives me that ability. Altho I'd rather be playing FPS games...
  • GeminosityGeminosity :3 Join Date: 2003-09-08 Member: 20667Members
    Caboose... don't try and judge it by looking because you'll only get it wrong =P

    Guilty Gear takes Mortal Combat, beats it silly, doest 40 fatalities on it then smears it's into the ground under it's heal. Guilty Gear is a fighting game and it knows it. The story parts are totally unobtrusive (if you play in arcade mode there is story apart from the endings, plus survival mode as well for your pure fighting fixes but jees it's hard)

    Make no bones about it though, GG was built to beat you, the difficulty ramps up and it's a very satisfying fighter easily on par with Capcom vs SNK 2 if not better =o

    Regarding the graphics/gameplay thing. Sure graphics are part of the experience but it shouldn't be the deciding factor in whether you <u>try</u> something or not. If you try it and don't like it then yeah you can hate on the graphics all you want because at least you know the game wasn't to your tastes either.
    In this particular case it's not even like the graphics <b>are</b> bad, they're just done in a style you don't appreciate. Guilty Gear is one of the best 2D fighters and it's used in official fighting tournaments alongside much more recognised names such as street fighter and capcom vs SNK, to put this down without trying it is a crime against yourself as someone who enjoys fighting games, assuming you do of course <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    To illustrate the point, I'd rather play Guilty Gear XX than Soul Calibur 2... that's how good it is =3
  • CabooseCaboose title = name(self, handle) Join Date: 2003-02-15 Member: 13597Members, Constellation
    I'll go to gamestop and try it, then come back and see what I think about it...
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