Aliens With 24 Res On Headstart

k1ndredk1ndred Join Date: 2003-11-30 Member: 23790Members
in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">Discussin about a little balance detail</div> I've noiced the 24 res when starting as alien, i dunno if it's already discussed here, if is, please lock this topic and redirect to other one


IMO this 24 res start is unbalancing pub games with more than 6 players, because the minute that takes for acquiring this 1 res needer for a res node is giving marines a far edge over the aliens, because they don't need to wait, they just go droping and building the res nodes at the rate their res allow


I ask for bringing back the 25 res
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  • BobTheJanitorBobTheJanitor Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24228Members, NS1 Playtester
    It's a bug, it's logged and fixed for b5. And actually you still have the correct res amout, it's just counting wrong. Try it. You can drop an rt with 14 res and go back skulk when you only have 1 res showing.
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  • PetcoPetco Join Date: 2003-07-27 Member: 18478Members, Constellation
    Yes it is 25 res even if it is showing 24 res. Trying to do anything like trying to drop rt or so with only 14 res won't work in popup menu but you can do these things with impulses such as

    <b>Buildings</b>:
    Impulse 91 - Build a OC
    Impulse 92 - Build a DC
    Impulse 93 - Build a SC
    Impulse 94 - Build a MC
    Impulse 95 - Build hive

    <b>Lifeforms</b>:
    Impulse 113 - Skulk
    Impulse 114 - Gorge
    Impulse 115 - Lerk
    Impulse 116 - Fade
    Impulse 117 - Onos

    <b>Upgrades</b>:
    Impulse 101 - Caparace
    Impulse 102 - Regen
    Impulse 103 - Redempt
    Impulse 107 - Celerity
    Impulse 108 - Adrenaline
    Impulse 109 - Silence
    Impulse 110 - Cloaking
    Impulse 111 - Focus
    Impulse 112 - Scent of fear
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  • BobTheJanitorBobTheJanitor Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24228Members, NS1 Playtester
    Oops yeah, I didn't think of it not working via the popup menu. I never use the popup menu for anything anymore. (have to bind the num pad to something, after all!)
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  • inninn Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11566Members
    The pop-up menu may work seeing as how I built a hive with 39 res yesterday using it. I had the menu open and was waiting for that 1 res tick, which never happened (10vs10 with 1 rt for aliens =\) and released the menu to scratch my... uh.... nose <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> and the hive went up when my res still said 39.

    Basically, it doesn't show you can do anything via the menu, but it may still be possible.
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  • k1ndredk1ndred Join Date: 2003-11-30 Member: 23790Members
    I don't think this is a bug, I could never build and rt with 14 res, but I'll check that out
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  • MintmanMintman Join Date: 2003-05-30 Member: 16866Members
    It does work via the pop-up menu even though the item is greyed out.
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  • k1ndredk1ndred Join Date: 2003-11-30 Member: 23790Members
    Didn't worked for me today


    gorge -> res tower -x-> skulk with 1 res

    looks like the display get bugged with 99 res only
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  • demonxdemonx Join Date: 2004-03-18 Member: 27414Members
    Ok, even if it WAS 24 res instead of 25... It's just ONE resource you're talking about there. That wouldn't make the game less balanced... rofl
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  • BobTheJanitorBobTheJanitor Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24228Members, NS1 Playtester
    Just bind the impulses for drop RT and gestate into skulk to a couple keys and try it that way. Trust me, it works.
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  • d0omied0omie Join Date: 2003-02-23 Member: 13877Members
    It may be "JUST ONE" resource, but it like the marines starting with 14 res an unable to make an RT until their 1/6 of a tower makes a res.

    It REALLY slows down the aliens in large games, they need a min to get the res for a tower.
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  • RecoupRecoup Join Date: 2004-04-25 Member: 28195Members
    HOLY **** I never thought I would see something so pathetic as bitching about one res that doesnt take more then a few seconds to recieve. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • d0omied0omie Join Date: 2003-02-23 Member: 13877Members
    Try playing in a 10 vs 10 server, it takes a LOONNG time to get that one res.

    (but the imbalances at different numbers of players is another story

    why can't they have (alien res income= no.rts*numberplayers/6)? That would balance it out...)
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  • a_civiliana_civilian Likes seeing numbers Join Date: 2003-01-08 Member: 12041Members, NS1 Playtester, Playtest Lead
    Read the second post. You do not start with 24 resources, you start with 25. However, the resource display is bugged and shows one less resource than you actually have.
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  • MarineAnimalMarineAnimal Join Date: 2004-05-14 Member: 28676Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-a civilian+May 26 2004, 02:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (a civilian @ May 26 2004, 02:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Read the second post. You do not start with 24 resources, you start with 25. However, the resource display is bugged and shows one less resource than you actually have. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This is true. I use a bind to place rts/chambers/hives, and it always works with 14 res.
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  • Ph0enixPh0enix Join Date: 2002-10-08 Member: 1462Members, Constellation
    To everyone belittling this thread, bear in mind we're talking about the very start of the game when there is one res tower supporting the entire team.
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  • BobTheJanitorBobTheJanitor Join Date: 2003-12-10 Member: 24228Members, NS1 Playtester
    Nonono, reread it. The game is EXACTLY the same as it has been.

    <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>Only the displayed amount of res is bugged</span>

    You have 25 res on start. It just SHOWS 24. It's a visual bug. That is all.
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  • Ph0enixPh0enix Join Date: 2002-10-08 Member: 1462Members, Constellation
    <!--QuoteBegin-BobTheJanitor+May 27 2004, 02:12 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (BobTheJanitor @ May 27 2004, 02:12 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Nonono, reread it. The game is EXACTLY the same as it has been.

    <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>Only the displayed amount of res is bugged</span>

    You have 25 res on start. It just SHOWS 24. It's a visual bug. That is all. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Yessss, I know that. Your point being ? I was merely indicating why it was a problem that needed fixing.
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