Server Admins: Do Not Restrict Bandwidth!

ShawnDShawnD Join Date: 2002-11-09 Member: 7827Members
edited March 2004 in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">NS takes lot of bandwidth</div> A few times, I have been on servers with bandwidth restricted at stupid rates like 4000, and those are the laggiest servers ever. NS is very intense and requires a lot of bandwidth so please do not set maximum rates on your server.

Have a look at how much bandwidth I was using on a server about an hour ago.
<a href='http://myfiles.dyndns.org/pictures/ns_bandwidth.jpg' target='_blank'>screenshot</a>

Look at the bottom right corner. Look at that rate. 9.28kB/s download and 2.31KB/s upload. Even with that much bandwidth use, there is still 12 choke.

Please do not set rate limits <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

*changed from high quality jpg to low quality
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  • RaVeRaVe Join Date: 2003-06-20 Member: 17538Members
    This is a bad place to post to server admins. THis belongs in General Server Support....yep yep yep....
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  • LastLast Join Date: 2003-10-06 Member: 21463Members
    some people are paranoid about what other people set their rates to. apparently, high rates are "rate h4x." that might explain it
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  • romanoromano Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 4296Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-ShawnD+Mar 23 2004, 05:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ShawnD @ Mar 23 2004, 05:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <a href='http://myfiles.dyndns.org/pictures/ns_bandwidth.png' target='_blank'>screenshot (~850kB)</a> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    This just in... new invention... JPEG image compression.
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  • AndervalAnderval &lt;3 Join Date: 2003-05-05 Member: 16073Members, Constellation
    also: low rates = rate hax

    haxor servers!
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  • 7Bistromath7Bistromath Join Date: 2003-12-04 Member: 23928Members, Constellation
    What is this... rate h4x? Is it anything like teamwork h4x? Or motion h4xing?
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  • EEKEEK Join Date: 2004-02-25 Member: 26898Banned
    You know what's the saddest part of this all?


    The site that rediculously huge image is hosted at has trottled bandwidth down in the area of 10 kb/s... <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Try to see it from our POV though....

    Some of us have either a low bandwidth cap, or a LOT of servers to look after. If that NS server starts hogging it, and for the enjoyment of 14 NS players you see 60 players of other games suffer, you're doing something wrong as an admin if you don't act against it.

    Thankfully, I'm not in this boat, but some of us are, and I feel sympathy for the abuse they get just trying to keep everything A-1.
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  • AezayAezay Join Date: 2003-04-19 Member: 15660Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-ShawnD+Mar 23 2004, 10:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ShawnD @ Mar 23 2004, 10:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><a href='http://myfiles.dyndns.org/pictures/ns_bandwidth.png' target='_blank'>screenshot (~850kB)</a><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What map is that?
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  • RedWingateRedWingate Join Date: 2004-03-15 Member: 27349Members, Constellation
    This rates are just normal and don't result in choke anyway - Maybe you should pick your servers more wisely :-)
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  • raz0rraz0r Join Date: 2003-07-24 Member: 18395Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Aezay+Mar 23 2004, 01:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Aezay @ Mar 23 2004, 01:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-ShawnD+Mar 23 2004, 10:00 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (ShawnD @ Mar 23 2004, 10:00 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--><a href='http://myfiles.dyndns.org/pictures/ns_bandwidth.png' target='_blank'>screenshot (~850kB)</a><!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
    What map is that? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    ns_siegeg4b2s_v2_b4
    custom map made for the G4B2S server by one of the admins/community mappers there
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  • That_Annoying_KidThat_Annoying_Kid Sire of Titles Join Date: 2003-03-01 Member: 14175Members, Constellation
    I think shockwave makes a point, and most server operators know there networks, and the specs of there machines can vary, there can be limits and caps etc, no one is forcing you to play on there server, you can always just find another one if you think the one your on is laggy
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  • JaspJasp Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13076Members
    lol, as a 56k i use what? 4k down 2k up and i get 0 choke 0 loss all the time and hes complaining about having 10k of bandwidth i would kill for that much.

    Also you have to see if from the point of the server admins more bandwidth costs more £££ not everyone has a ton of money to spend.
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  • LichoLicho Join Date: 2002-11-02 Member: 3858Members, NS1 Playtester
    If rate is restricted on server, simply down your cl_cmdrate and cl_updaterate to fit! (Although 4000 is really small for NS).. admins can use other ways to reduce bandwitch (such as changing cl_cmd and cl_updaterate on clients..
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  • DC_DarklingDC_Darkling Join Date: 2003-07-10 Member: 18068Members, Constellation, Squad Five Blue, Squad Five Silver
    messing with that is hell. When I runned a HL server I stopped trying. Now I rent one which is fixed for me. <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    but yeh, most admins DO know what is needed. I remember the xs4all steam servers lagged. But or admin was full aware. He just did not have a desent machine for it at the time and he had a whole network running which also needed bandwith.

    (fixed now yay)

    But bottum line I agree on is that they know.
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