Gorge Looking For A Good Time
Nefilim
Join Date: 2003-08-09 Member: 19222Members, Constellation
Join Date: 2003-08-09 Member: 19222Members, Constellation
<div class="IPBDescription">Great personality</div> So I have this problem... I just can't enjoy playing aliens on pubs any more.
I like teamplay, but I hate getting stuck with the "permgorge" role. No one ever thanks you for the job, they just demand more chambers while they go fade and onos.
Every single game, I tell people to immediately cap a res node or a defense (or other if agreed upon) chamber. Yet, I only see one res tower dropped and no one drops any chambers. I try to amass enough early-game RFK to get to 50, then go to drop the hive... about the same time, 3 fades and an onos spring up. We still only have two nodes and only one DC, yet people spend all of their res on themselves.
I'm just disgusted with it; especially when we lose because of it. We'll have a ton of electrified marine nozzles, but the fades don't bother taking them down. The res is trickling in ridiculously slowly, and there's four free nozzles near our hive... yet some guy has 65 res and says "10 res til I go onos!"
Do people honestly think that a single-hive fade is infinitely more effective at killing marines than two-hive skulks with MC and DC while gorges bile bomb? Would it kill them to play skulk a -little bit longer- if they spent their res on buying the team another resource tower?
By the time we get enough res to go fade or onos after dropping all the chambers for the team, the game is already over and we don't get to see the fruits of 20-minutes hiding behind an OC while dropping chambers and hives.
So, if anyone else has this problem, what do you do? Every time I try to tell my team mates to straighten up their act, they run to that excuse of "Don't tell me how to play the game, nub gorge! I have a lot more kills than you!"
I like teamplay, but I hate getting stuck with the "permgorge" role. No one ever thanks you for the job, they just demand more chambers while they go fade and onos.
Every single game, I tell people to immediately cap a res node or a defense (or other if agreed upon) chamber. Yet, I only see one res tower dropped and no one drops any chambers. I try to amass enough early-game RFK to get to 50, then go to drop the hive... about the same time, 3 fades and an onos spring up. We still only have two nodes and only one DC, yet people spend all of their res on themselves.
I'm just disgusted with it; especially when we lose because of it. We'll have a ton of electrified marine nozzles, but the fades don't bother taking them down. The res is trickling in ridiculously slowly, and there's four free nozzles near our hive... yet some guy has 65 res and says "10 res til I go onos!"
Do people honestly think that a single-hive fade is infinitely more effective at killing marines than two-hive skulks with MC and DC while gorges bile bomb? Would it kill them to play skulk a -little bit longer- if they spent their res on buying the team another resource tower?
By the time we get enough res to go fade or onos after dropping all the chambers for the team, the game is already over and we don't get to see the fruits of 20-minutes hiding behind an OC while dropping chambers and hives.
So, if anyone else has this problem, what do you do? Every time I try to tell my team mates to straighten up their act, they run to that excuse of "Don't tell me how to play the game, nub gorge! I have a lot more kills than you!"
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I suggest voogru.com Hive #1. At the start of most rounds on Aliens we have people saying "Ill save for DCs" "Ill save for the Hive" "Everyone Gorge and drop an RT," and for the most part, people do. Sure, you get your occasional punk that doesnt and just Onos **** and dies in 3 seconds, but the beautiful thing is that if an Admin see its, then its bye bye moron.
Also, Ive taken up thanking Gorges for their work and giving them secks for DCs/MCs/SCs. Feel the <3 on Hive 1.
The world is filled nearly to the brim with the lovely stuff.
Bottom line - "People" Want to kill stuff, they dont want to spend 2 mins watching themselfs gorge and drop something then build it.
"They" are too arrogant to learn that its better, or "they" just dont care.
You have little, to no way of making "them" do anything.**
/me gets HA and HMG, Humps Armory, walks into an onos, knifes it, gets digested, quits game.
/me shrugs "Dunno mate."
Keep it fluffy.
*Answer may not be true, terms and conditions apply.
**May not be true, communication can some times break down and some people are slow etc. Terms and conditions apply.
2. skrew this "permgorge" if your team dosent want to help out as a team, then they deserve no victory, let the marines stomp all over them, and when ailens lose, tell them "ailens, sad, NS are for teamwork, without it, this will happen, im pretty sure you can live without being onos.
3. you my friend, are in no case a noob, kills have nothing to do with it, and score means nothing according to skill, if you play on that server again, or see anyone saying this, tell them this.
4. <a href='http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2001/20010126l.gif' target='_blank'>http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2001/20010126l.gif</a> show this to the ppl in #3 tell them it really will happen. see how they react <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
5. might i suggest a new server, seeing holocauset is now fatherland custom maps dod try these three, do note that freaks and Lords Of Chaos's server is useually full and gamestein is useually empty
<span style='color:red'>Lords of Chaos NS v3.0 Beta 3 Classic</span>
<span style='color:yellow'>69.13.18.90:27015</span>
<span style='color:red'>Freaks Unleashed! NS Hive 3.0 b3 Austin Tx</span>
<span style='color:yellow'>207.200.24.214:27015</span>
<span style='color:red'>Gamenstein.com #1 - NS 3.0 b3 (NON-CO maps only)</span>
<span style='color:yellow'>69.56.246.58:27020</span>
the environment is much better than pubs.
I like teamplay, but I hate getting stuck with the "permgorge" role. No one ever thanks you for the job, they just demand more chambers while they go fade and onos.
Every single game, I tell people to immediately cap a res node or a defense (or other if agreed upon) chamber. Yet, I only see one res tower dropped and no one drops any chambers. I try to amass enough early-game RFK to get to 50, then go to drop the hive... about the same time, 3 fades and an onos spring up. We still only have two nodes and only one DC, yet people spend all of their res on themselves.
I'm just disgusted with it; especially when we lose because of it. We'll have a ton of electrified marine nozzles, but the fades don't bother taking them down. The res is trickling in ridiculously slowly, and there's four free nozzles near our hive... yet some guy has 65 res and says "10 res til I go onos!"
Do people honestly think that a single-hive fade is infinitely more effective at killing marines than two-hive skulks with MC and DC while gorges bile bomb? Would it kill them to play skulk a -little bit longer- if they spent their res on buying the team another resource tower?
By the time we get enough res to go fade or onos after dropping all the chambers for the team, the game is already over and we don't get to see the fruits of 20-minutes hiding behind an OC while dropping chambers and hives.
So, if anyone else has this problem, what do you do? Every time I try to tell my team mates to straighten up their act, they run to that excuse of "Don't tell me how to play the game, nub gorge! I have a lot more kills than you!" <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
In my opinion, thats where 1.04 shined out against the new builds. ONE GORGE. This guy did ALL the work, and you COULD spend the res on yourself, instead of people not even helping the aliens, and hoarding all the res.
On a good team, you still should have one or two people going for the early fade (maybe onos). Electrified RTs and shotguns can make it difficult to keep the marines under control as a skulk.
I would much prefer just spending 10 res, becoming gorge in less then a second, dropping some stuff, and getting back into combat.
Fade with no chambers = autokick,
Onos no chambers or 1 hive autokick.
Its so funny to see them join again and cry about their lost res, then watch them get flamed so much they leave the server and change their nick so ppl will talk to them again.
The point is that its not fair to expect one person to carry the team. And now with the res evenly distributed a team needs many gorges to cap res and put up chambers. **** ruin the game and annoy the team.
Go back to CS lamers
At start every alien MUST cap one nozzle, those that fail are newbs(nubs,noobs,whatever). This results in a flurry of skulks rushing like crazy to get to the nearest res point to go gorge, cap and go back to skulk. Too slow and you find yourself trying to cap a nozzle too close to marines.
Basically a player that tries to res **** is flamebait and gets razzed without mercy, to the point that player leaves.
There are of course exceptions, example you won't get razzed if you are putting up OC's at double while a fellow gorge is capping, or OC's at chokepoints to slow down marine rush, etc etc (ie tactical considerations are an escuse for not capping, but going fade or onos early is not acceptable - cap early and you are free to get kills for res to go fade).
This 'no cap = noob' system works fine in a server where a lot of the players are regulars, new players soon learn the system.
Ooo he stole my words!
On a side note, i don't play alien anymore either. For the reasons you posted, and, complete lack of intelligence / teamwork... Then again, meh, it's all the same.
Until noticing that in the team list, between all those skulks, I'm the only gorge.
You can always tell you played a great game when everyone says GG at the end
I don't play on real pubs anymore(i.e. the ones without admins and lots of regulars). If I did I would have quit NS months and months ago. The game just doesn't really work on pubs anymore IMHO and it's sad to see.
this is what BAH did to us, and they were only playing around with us like toys.
sometimes tho, if you have a well coordinated fade rush, marines dont stand a chance. but neither would you if you didnt win within 5 mins.
Good players know how to use sensory, and you'll never have to threaten them with it as they'll be helping you anyway.
People that don't help the team often don't know how to use any chamber other than defence and will crumble in fear at the thought of having to learn to play the game.