Ns_particlezoo

NetBent

Not with that attitude.

Ok so building on this whole breathing idea.. Instead of a breath comuing from a marine, how about a marine coming out of an oni's rump? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->

MrBen

We have a trigger particle push?!

KungFuSquirrel

Jebus, Ben, how long have you been working for us? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

HanzGrub3r

omg you off topic posters, lol!

<b>All:</b> Ok, I've narrowed down how I'm doing this now. It's gonna be divided into sections (or rooms if you will)..

- Basic Propelled Water Effects (fountains, waterfalls etc)
- Advanced Propelled Water Effects (rain with splashes and ripples, tap running that forms into a puddle)
- Atmospheric Effects (mist/fog, haze, steam, dust etc)
- Physics Based Effects (bouncing, collisions etc)
- Pyrotechnic Effects (Fire, Fire Bursts, Explosions, etc)
- Misc Effects (Sparks, Bubbles, etc)
- Combined Effects (Dripping water onto a light that then turns to steam, piston with steam from hydrolic which sparks as it hits the ground ETC)

So that's pretty much it..

Berger

This sounds really cool. Any idea how long this will take?

HanzGrub3r

<b>Berger</b> - Well, I had just moved onto the dust particle system and the stupid thing wouldn't look the way I want. I must have compiled at least 30 times before I got it right...If that's any indication...maybe 2 complete systems a day (can't spend all day on the computer).. about a week and a bit and it should be done

jplove

Will you be releasing the *.map or *.rmf file for this?

Wolf

He said he would be releasing both, I believe.

HanzGrub3r

I'll be releasing the bsp initially then when I've done the tutorial for each particle system I'll release the map ...I'm not just gonna give it out and let people copy the particle systems...the idea is that people learn how to do it...not learn how to copy it..

Akalamanaia

Add a Zone where particles form a Turret or Skulk or something <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->

dPP

I belive your going to let me add this to my site ? <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Gorfob

Sounds great HanzGrub3r after seeing ns_ayumi with its snow around the glass corridor near marines spawn. I was impress with NS's particle system. I really want to see what its like, that map would be great to show off! Keep it up can't wait for the finished version

Umbraed_Monkey

Can you make something like fleas that follow players around? Or heck, fleas around the hive would also be good.

dPP

yeh like those glow flys glowing gold around the hive

Avitar

I would like to see a cave behind a waterfall with wind and water dripping off the ceiling in the right spots.

brute_force

<!--QuoteBegin-DaRk_PlAgUe+Mar 16 2004, 01:45 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (DaRk_PlAgUe @ Mar 16 2004, 01:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> yeh like those glow flys glowing gold around the hive <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
If you mean Feedwater hive in ns_bast, then those are just env_sprites.

Insane

<!--QuoteBegin-KungFuSquirrel+Mar 14 2004, 08:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (KungFuSquirrel @ Mar 14 2004, 08:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Windelkron+Mar 12 2004, 09:11 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Windelkron @ Mar 12 2004, 09:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> alternating forces on particles.  Imagine two fans facing each other; they turn on and off in tandem with each other, blowing the particles left, then right, the left again.  Even better if you can make them turn on/off at different frequencies, so that you get constructive/destructive interference! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
mmm... Nightwatch... trigger_particle_push... <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo--> teehee

Sorry. I'll run away now. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yarr, I want that! You Nightwatch types get all the cool stuff! Yarr.

dPP

ShdwStal, theya int glowing fly things thats just a sprite with bits of stuff roatating, not that lol

I mean bright glowing simple particles moving randomly around the hive, maybe gold, orange

Haze

ya like said before make some animated holograms of a marine shooting a skulk..

..if that has to do with particle systems.

dPP

lol is upose its posible with 999999 particles at different colours very small.... but no not really lol

Reese

Too bad we don't have a "generate on expiration" flag for env_particles custom. Could do some neat random floating stuff effects by having a particle generate itself when it expires. Would be kinda easy to make buzzing flies and that sort of thing.

Insane

<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->ya like said before make some animated holograms of a marine shooting a skulk..

..if that has to do with particle systems.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Nope. That can be done with a world model, or even just a couple of textures.

<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Too bad we don't have a "generate on expiration" flag for env_particles custom. Could do some neat random floating stuff effects by having a particle generate itself when it expires. Would be kinda easy to make buzzing flies and that sort of thing.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I may not be understanding you entirely, but you could just set the particle lifetime to -1 (infinite), and remove the need for the particles to regenerate on expiration.

Reese

but that would still only move the particle in one direction. What i'm talking about is more of a dancing firefly sort of thing.... where one particle changes directions constantly.

Lazer

How were those lava sparks in bast done? It seems as if they spit out and then splash when they hit the ground?

Mantrid

Reese, are you referring to that flying sprite in Opposing Force? Because that was done with a OP4 specific entity, called particle_train.

HanzGrub3r

Erm..I think you guys still imagine that this is some super duper fantasmic particle system..let me break it to you...it's fairly simple...you can do some really cool things with it..but with in reason...

circling a hive, short of having 50 particle systems so that you get an actual circle instead of an octogon type shape, is not possible...

Think of it this way..if you need to guide the particles then it probably can't be done..

Insane

<!--QuoteBegin-Lazer+Mar 18 2004, 03:47 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Lazer @ Mar 18 2004, 03:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> How were those lava sparks in bast done? It seems as if they spit out and then splash when they hit the ground? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
"Generate system on collision"

The "splash" is another particle system, set to generate when and where a spark particle collides with the world geometry.

Umbraed_Monkey

<!--QuoteBegin-HanzGrub3r+Mar 17 2004, 11:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (HanzGrub3r @ Mar 17 2004, 11:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Erm..I think you guys still imagine that this is some super duper fantasmic particle system..let me break it to you...it's fairly simple...you can do some really cool things with it..but with in reason...

circling a hive, short of having 50 particle systems so that you get an actual circle instead of an octogon type shape, is not possible...

Think of it this way..if you need to guide the particles then it probably can't be done.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not guided perfect circles around the hive. Random movements near the hive (thats what I meant, and thats what I think the other guy meant too). So the question is, can you make a particle move about in a random path within a certain area?

I believe Reese was trying to make the particle regen itself within a certain radius of itself. Which, if I imagine it right, should create the desired effect.

Droggog

Awesome idea HanzGrub3r, can't wait to see the result.

Maybe a particle system to simulate a "reactor trail" ?
Fake shooting stars ? (to put on the "outside" of a map, enclosed in sky brushes) triggered by a trigger_random or something

Hmm it's all i can think of <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->

Thanks for making this, i really need to learn the particle system, and this is gonna help for sure.

venomus

If there's one thing the NS particle system could do with, its controlling acceleration, or maybe linking velocity to sin/cos functions. This would allow you to do the fun stuff like circling, oscillating etc.

Another cool thing would be an entity which attracts/repels particles, but I'm guessing the extra cpu overhead would not be worth it.