Pay for the ******* things you can afford to pay for. <b><i>$2.00 Nasal Spray??</i></b> Even a homeless person can pay for that, who the hell is your friend that he can't shell out $2.00 for a good? Honestly, who the hell does he think he is?
I mean, I'm cheap and stingy yeah, but it's $2.00 for God's sake. It's not like he has to skip eating for the next few days to make up for that.
People these days. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
At least his brother is cool and went to defend him without knowing what was going on. Lot better morals there perhaps.
<!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Mar 11 2004, 01:21 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Mar 11 2004, 01:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No, Grey, thats whats f***ing up America, is a sue-happy populace. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Everyone's trying to get the biggest slice of pie
CplDavisI hunt the arctic SnonosJoin Date: 2003-01-09Member: 12097Members
ok as the guy who actualy works for a police dept heres my input to clarify some things.
This goes for the US b/c i cant talk about other nations laws.
If you shoplift from a store, the plain store clerks cannot chase you down and tackle you. Especialy if all the shoplifter did was walk away. The best they can do is make verbal conact with him. Dont debate how right or wrong that is. thats just how it is.. If there job IS however security/loss prevention they have slightly differnt rules.
However if they are not designated as security and they initiate physical contact on the shoplifter NOT in self defense they open themselves up to CIVIL liability for any harm they cause. Even if its to the bad guy. Heck, even if they were secuirty guards they have limited liability when initiating physical contact. Security is not the same as police. Technically anyone can make a citizens arrest in the US. However the difference between police and civilians/secuity is the use of force issue and the process of detaining someone. Powers not granted to normal citizens unless they want to become civily liable for any wrong doings they do.
Or criminal issues which could range from simple assult, unlawful detainment, and or even kiddknapping if the person is dragged 25 feet away in any direction without the victems consent.
With so much to be liable to thats why its best to have the police take care if issues like this.
The kid in the story of the origional post cannot SUE for assault. Assault is a criminal violation of the law. It is not a civil matter. He CAN press CRIMINAL charges on the store clerks for assault. He COULD sue the store/clerks in the CIVIL area for any damages/injuries done to him by the attacking employees etc.
<!--QuoteBegin-MrPink+Mar 11 2004, 12:27 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MrPink @ Mar 11 2004, 12:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Everyone's trying to get the biggest slice of pie <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> why not? i'd sue. i love teh moonay! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Tortex+Mar 10 2004, 08:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tortex @ Mar 10 2004, 08:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> he could sue because when the cops came they were **** at the people who tackled him because they kept rubbing his face into the concrete! <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> yah but sueing over **** like taht is stupid
oh and he should not have been f-ed up but u know things get out of hand
i live in nevada <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
where in nv, cause i live there also <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Tortex+Mar 10 2004, 11:18 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tortex @ Mar 10 2004, 11:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> where in nv, cause i live there also <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Ill say that I live in Reno cuz I use to live there and I'm ashamed of this stupid small town that I live in right now.
i live in carson city <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> also a **** little town
thank you Davis for providing an informed voice of reason. anyone who disagrees, feel free to write to your local, regional, or national government saying why you think your opinions are more valid than centuries of evolution of the legal system, and millennia of evolution of our moral code...
if people think anarchy is the way to go... well, you probably don't belong in whatever civilized country you're in...
the 'wild west' made for glamorous movies BECAUSE there was no law, and that was scary and mysterious to the audience... and it was also supposed to make evident how lucky we are to have established legal systems... because really, do you want to have to protect your homestead from bandits yourself? sure, you may like the idea of having your way with anyone who would mess with you, but to quote Gandhi, "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." Do you really want to be no better than someone who would attack you?
I agree that suing is out of control in America... but the theory is good... if someone is unjust to you, rather than taking their eye in return, you can be compensated monetarily... thereby punishing them and compensating you...
anyway, I'm sick of moralizing, I want to go brutally shoot some aliens til they die in a pool of alien goo.
*makes a mental note that if I'm ever gonna steal from Esuna, I better rub him out first* <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
yah the wild west was a scary time indeed. they barely had authority if any at all. anyway, he's not gonna sue. he doesn't really care much <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Tortex+Mar 10 2004, 11:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tortex @ Mar 10 2004, 11:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> i live in carson city <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo--> also a **** little town <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Just out of curiosity...do you know Daniel Simons? He's in 11th grade.... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-Mullet+Mar 11 2004, 02:01 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mullet @ Mar 11 2004, 02:01 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Just out of curiosity...do you know Daniel Simons? He's in 11th grade.... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> hmm i'm not good with names unless they're like my friends. i might know who he is though. i looked in my yearbook but it's my freshamn one and that's the only one i have. so that means he was in the 8th grade <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
oh...well he just moved out to where I live. You should come out one night to our very weak LAN parties.... Our biggest one yet was 10 people ^_^
Actually....16 player halo was crazy. Too crazy. <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo-->
you won't tell me where you live. how can i go <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> j/k i'm not too fond of lan parties really. guess i'm retarded <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo-->
BizZy_9mm_MessiahOld School MemberJoin Date: 2003-07-25Member: 18411Members, Constellation
<!--QuoteBegin-esuna+Mar 10 2004, 08:57 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (esuna @ Mar 10 2004, 08:57 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-GreyPaws+Mar 11 2004, 01:53 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (GreyPaws @ Mar 11 2004, 01:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Quaunaut+Mar 10 2004, 08:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Quaunaut @ Mar 10 2004, 08:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> No, Grey, thats whats f***ing up America, is a sue-happy populace. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> if the store is dumb enough to hire people who would tackle a shoplifter who wasn’t even trying to run away, they deserve to be sued. merchandise is never worth physical harm, unless the thief intends to cause physical harm to the people confronting him. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> You're joking, right? Are you telling me that if some punk kid decides to steal from your store, you're not going to give him a beating? The little git deserves all he gets, and his brother joined in the fight too? Hell, string him up along aside him.
Are you seriously suggesting that someone who <b>broke the law in the first place</b> has any rights or grounds to sue? That's like burgler's who sue when they get shot robbing someone's house or something. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Well, I would be **** at my brother, but doesn't mean I'm going to stand there and get my kicks as he gets his **** beat by the workers. I'd join the fight to, that's kin man..
<!--QuoteBegin-Mullet+Mar 11 2004, 02:42 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Mullet @ Mar 11 2004, 02:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Yeah, no matter what the reason could be...I'd go and fight too if i saw my brother/friend gettin banged up by 4 people. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> believe me when i say his brother definately "helped" <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> A LOT!
<!--QuoteBegin-Tortex+Mar 10 2004, 05:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tortex @ Mar 10 2004, 05:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> lmao, my friend dale just got arrested for stealing a thing of nazal spray from the gorcery store. what happened was he stole it, put it in his pocket and started to walk out. he then was tackled by 4 of the workers all the way to the concrete outside. his older brother was shopping by himself there and he saw what happened, so he ran over and started beating up the 4 guys. after that like 3 more guys came over and started fighting my friend and his brother. his brother fought like 5 guys LOL. he's pretty tough. anyway, the cops came and arrested them but they're both home now. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Your friend deserves it. He <i>was</i> shoplifting afterall. Five-Finger-Discounts just aren't cool.
i still disagree that he "deserved" getting beat up. he wasn't even warned man. first of all, he was caught off guard from behind(how low is that) secondly, he showed no hostility whatsoever towards anyone. and i'm not saying it wasn't wrong that he stole...i'm just saying it was the wrong move by the employees. they weren't even security. they were just BAGGERS!
EpidemicDark Force GorgeJoin Date: 2003-06-29Member: 17781Members
<!--QuoteBegin-Renegade+Mar 11 2004, 08:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Renegade @ Mar 11 2004, 08:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Tortex+Mar 10 2004, 05:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tortex @ Mar 10 2004, 05:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> lmao, my friend dale just got arrested for stealing a thing of nazal spray from the gorcery store. what happened was he stole it, put it in his pocket and started to walk out. he then was tackled by 4 of the workers all the way to the concrete outside. his older brother was shopping by himself there and he saw what happened, so he ran over and started beating up the 4 guys. after that like 3 more guys came over and started fighting my friend and his brother. his brother fought like 5 guys LOL. he's pretty tough. anyway, the cops came and arrested them but they're both home now. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Your friend deserves it. He <i>was</i> shoplifting afterall. Five-Finger-Discounts just aren't cool. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Noone should take the law in it's own hand..
<!--QuoteBegin-Epidemic+Mar 11 2004, 03:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Epidemic @ Mar 11 2004, 03:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Renegade+Mar 11 2004, 08:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Renegade @ Mar 11 2004, 08:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> <!--QuoteBegin-Tortex+Mar 10 2004, 05:13 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Tortex @ Mar 10 2004, 05:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> lmao, my friend dale just got arrested for stealing a thing of nazal spray from the gorcery store. what happened was he stole it, put it in his pocket and started to walk out. he then was tackled by 4 of the workers all the way to the concrete outside. his older brother was shopping by himself there and he saw what happened, so he ran over and started beating up the 4 guys. after that like 3 more guys came over and started fighting my friend and his brother. his brother fought like 5 guys LOL. he's pretty tough. anyway, the cops came and arrested them but they're both home now. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.natural-selection.org/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Your friend deserves it. He <i>was</i> shoplifting afterall. Five-Finger-Discounts just aren't cool. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Noone should take the law in it's own hand.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> EXACTLY epidemic. that's why we have something called "police officers."
coilAmateur pirate. Professional monkey. All pance.Join Date: 2002-04-12Member: 424Members, NS1 Playtester, Contributor
Davis, let's say a shoplifter walks out of a store. The clerks tell him to stop; he ignores them. The clerks attempt to prevent him from leaving the store; he pushes them out of the way.
If they put a hand on him, they become liable. He's clearly not about to give them his name and home address so they can call the cops and explain what happened; even if he did, the chance of finding him guilty of anything probably drops significantly as soon as he leaves store grounds and has a chance to hide or otherwise dispose of whatever he stole.
What am I, as a retail clerk interested in keeping my store in business, supposed to do in that situation??
If someone steals something in a shop, and the person gets cought, try keeping the person in the shop, and call the police.
At least that's what I'm supposed to do @ work.
But most of the time my "boss" wants to handle it. He makes the alarm go off, so the thief has to empty her bags, and if safety tags are removed, the person is handed over to the police <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I believe - and this is coming from a guy who's taking a business law class, hardly an expert - that provided that you have sufficient cause to believe someone is stealing something (i.e. pushing clerks out of the way or sprinting off of store grounds) you are permitted to detain them for a short period of time, provided you don't use unreasonable force.
why do you just have an automatic lockdown on the doors? the clerk thinks someone has shoplifted, they press the red button under the desk, the doors immediately close and lock and an alarm goes off, linked to the police station.
<!--QuoteBegin-coil+Mar 11 2004, 10:40 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (coil @ Mar 11 2004, 10:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Davis, let's say a shoplifter walks out of a store. The clerks tell him to stop; he ignores them. The clerks attempt to prevent him from leaving the store; he pushes them out of the way.
If they put a hand on him, they become liable. He's clearly not about to give them his name and home address so they can call the cops and explain what happened; even if he did, the chance of finding him guilty of anything probably drops significantly as soon as he leaves store grounds and has a chance to hide or otherwise dispose of whatever he stole.
What am I, as a retail clerk interested in keeping my store in business, supposed to do in that situation?? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> im not trying to be a toughman or nothing...
ubt you bitchslap the stupid kid... i tell ya... the cops for one.. they are generally on your side around here, especially in things like this, coslike the store clerks heart was in the right place really... sure they didnt go about it as well as they couldve.. but the overall goal was. guy stealing from store. stop it. i dont see why ANYONE is sympathetic to the little toerag (no offence tortex) but if you theive.. and then expect sympathy or anything like that after.. thats messed up like his friend tortex felt that his friend was so mistreated he had to post about it on a public gaming forum.. tortex clearly is on his friends side.. so even if nobody else was he already has people on his side over it..
<!--QuoteBegin-Moquiao+Mar 11 2004, 05:30 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Moquiao @ Mar 11 2004, 05:30 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> and at the end of the day...
GG you got beatdown for nasal spray. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> you know where that is going <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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I mean, I'm cheap and stingy yeah, but it's $2.00 for God's sake. It's not like he has to skip eating for the next few days to make up for that.
People these days. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
At least his brother is cool and went to defend him without knowing what was going on. Lot better morals there perhaps.
Everyone's trying to get the biggest slice of pie
This goes for the US b/c i cant talk about other nations laws.
If you shoplift from a store, the plain store clerks cannot chase you down and tackle you. Especialy if all the shoplifter did was walk away. The best they can do is make verbal conact with him. Dont debate how right or wrong that is. thats just how it is.. If there job IS however security/loss prevention they have slightly differnt rules.
However if they are not designated as security and they initiate physical contact on the shoplifter NOT in self defense they open themselves up to CIVIL liability for any harm they cause. Even if its to the bad guy. Heck, even if they were secuirty guards they have limited liability when initiating physical contact. Security is not the same as police. Technically anyone can make a citizens arrest in the US. However the difference between police and civilians/secuity is the use of force issue and the process of detaining someone. Powers not granted to normal citizens unless they want to become civily liable for any wrong doings they do.
Or criminal issues which could range from simple assult, unlawful detainment, and or even kiddknapping if the person is dragged 25 feet away in any direction without the victems consent.
With so much to be liable to thats why its best to have the police take care if issues like this.
The kid in the story of the origional post cannot SUE for assault. Assault is a criminal violation of the law. It is not a civil matter. He CAN press CRIMINAL charges on the store clerks for assault. He COULD sue the store/clerks in the CIVIL area for any damages/injuries done to him by the attacking employees etc.
hope this clears something up.
why not? i'd sue. i love teh moonay! <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
yah but sueing over **** like taht is stupid
oh and he should not have been f-ed up but u know things get out of hand
Ill say that I live in Reno cuz I use to live there and I'm ashamed of this stupid small town that I live in right now.
So yeah, i live in Reno.
if people think anarchy is the way to go... well, you probably don't belong in whatever civilized country you're in...
the 'wild west' made for glamorous movies BECAUSE there was no law, and that was scary and mysterious to the audience... and it was also supposed to make evident how lucky we are to have established legal systems... because really, do you want to have to protect your homestead from bandits yourself? sure, you may like the idea of having your way with anyone who would mess with you, but to quote Gandhi, "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." Do you really want to be no better than someone who would attack you?
I agree that suing is out of control in America... but the theory is good... if someone is unjust to you, rather than taking their eye in return, you can be compensated monetarily... thereby punishing them and compensating you...
anyway, I'm sick of moralizing, I want to go brutally shoot some aliens til they die in a pool of alien goo.
*makes a mental note that if I'm ever gonna steal from Esuna, I better rub him out first* <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Just out of curiosity...do you know Daniel Simons? He's in 11th grade.... <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
hmm i'm not good with names unless they're like my friends. i might know who he is though. i looked in my yearbook but it's my freshamn one and that's the only one i have. so that means he was in the 8th grade <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Actually....16 player halo was crazy. Too crazy. <!--emo&::nerdy::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/nerd.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='nerd.gif' /><!--endemo-->
if the store is dumb enough to hire people who would tackle a shoplifter who wasn’t even trying to run away, they deserve to be sued. merchandise is never worth physical harm, unless the thief intends to cause physical harm to the people confronting him. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You're joking, right? Are you telling me that if some punk kid decides to steal from your store, you're not going to give him a beating? The little git deserves all he gets, and his brother joined in the fight too? Hell, string him up along aside him.
Are you seriously suggesting that someone who <b>broke the law in the first place</b> has any rights or grounds to sue? That's like burgler's who sue when they get shot robbing someone's house or something. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well, I would be **** at my brother, but doesn't mean I'm going to stand there and get my kicks as he gets his **** beat by the workers. I'd join the fight to, that's kin man..
believe me when i say his brother definately "helped" <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> A LOT!
Your friend deserves it. He <i>was</i> shoplifting afterall. Five-Finger-Discounts just aren't cool.
Your friend deserves it. He <i>was</i> shoplifting afterall. Five-Finger-Discounts just aren't cool. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Noone should take the law in it's own hand..
Your friend deserves it. He <i>was</i> shoplifting afterall. Five-Finger-Discounts just aren't cool. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Noone should take the law in it's own hand.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
EXACTLY epidemic. that's why we have something called "police officers."
If they put a hand on him, they become liable. He's clearly not about to give them his name and home address so they can call the cops and explain what happened; even if he did, the chance of finding him guilty of anything probably drops significantly as soon as he leaves store grounds and has a chance to hide or otherwise dispose of whatever he stole.
What am I, as a retail clerk interested in keeping my store in business, supposed to do in that situation??
At least that's what I'm supposed to do @ work.
But most of the time my "boss" wants to handle it.
He makes the alarm go off, so the thief has to empty her bags, and if safety tags are removed, the person is handed over to the police <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Could be wrong, though.
If they put a hand on him, they become liable. He's clearly not about to give them his name and home address so they can call the cops and explain what happened; even if he did, the chance of finding him guilty of anything probably drops significantly as soon as he leaves store grounds and has a chance to hide or otherwise dispose of whatever he stole.
What am I, as a retail clerk interested in keeping my store in business, supposed to do in that situation?? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
im not trying to be a toughman or nothing...
ubt you bitchslap the stupid kid... i tell ya... the cops for one.. they are generally on your side around here, especially in things like this, coslike the store clerks heart was in the right place really... sure they didnt go about it as well as they couldve.. but the overall goal was. guy stealing from store. stop it. i dont see why ANYONE is sympathetic to the little toerag (no offence tortex) but if you theive.. and then expect sympathy or anything like that after.. thats messed up like his friend tortex felt that his friend was so mistreated he had to post about it on a public gaming forum.. tortex clearly is on his friends side.. so even if nobody else was he already has people on his side over it..
he stole.
and at the end of the day...
GG you got beatdown for nasal spray.
GG you got beatdown for nasal spray. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
you know where that is going <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->