Friend Just Got Arrested
lmao, my friend dale just got arrested for stealing a thing of nazal spray from the gorcery store. what happened was he stole it, put it in his pocket and started to walk out. he then was tackled by 4 of the workers all the way to the concrete outside. his older brother was shopping by himself there and he saw what happened, so he ran over and started beating up the 4 guys. after that like 3 more guys came over and started fighting my friend and his brother. his brother fought like 5 guys LOL. he's pretty tough. anyway, the cops came and arrested them but they're both home now. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
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if the store is dumb enough to hire people who would tackle a shoplifter who wasn’t even trying to run away, they deserve to be sued. merchandise is never worth physical harm, unless the thief intends to cause physical harm to the people confronting him.
if the store is dumb enough to hire people who would tackle a shoplifter who wasn’t even trying to run away, they deserve to be sued. merchandise is never worth physical harm, unless the thief intends to cause physical harm to the people confronting him. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
You're joking, right? Are you telling me that if some punk kid decides to steal from your store, you're not going to give him a beating? The little git deserves all he gets, and his brother joined in the fight too? Hell, string him up along aside him.
Are you seriously suggesting that someone who <b>broke the law in the first place</b> has any rights or grounds to sue? That's like burgler's who sue when they get shot robbing someone's house or something.
if the store is dumb enough to hire people who would tackle a shoplifter who wasn’t even trying to run away, they deserve to be sued. merchandise is never worth physical harm, unless the thief intends to cause physical harm to the people confronting him. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You're joking, right? Are you telling me that if some punk kid decides to steal from your store, you're not going to give him a beating? The little git deserves all he gets, and his brother joined in the fight too? Hell, string him up along aside him.
Are you seriously suggesting that someone who <b>broke the law in the first place</b> has any rights or grounds to sue? That's like burgler's who sue when they get shot robbing someone's house or something. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm suggesting that this kind of attitude is what helps burglars sue people, you can't shoot first and ask questions later. it was a $2.00 bottle of clear eyes, cost to the store is less that $1.00 and the spam (rent a cop or fake pig) could have crippled the guy. The police always ask shop owners like me not to harm people unless we are faced with harm ourselves, and resorting to the lynch mob mentality is plain out ignorant. Next time you speed through an intersection on a yellow light ill drag you out of your car and cave your skull in ok?
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So you say people who break the law loose their rights? People who break laws STILL HAVE THEIR RIGHTS!!!, that's one of the reasons why murderers aren't shot immediately, even in the USA....
So if he got beaten up, you may sue them....
if the store is dumb enough to hire people who would tackle a shoplifter who wasn?t even trying to run away, they deserve to be sued. merchandise is never worth physical harm, unless the thief intends to cause physical harm to the people confronting him. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You're joking, right? Are you telling me that if some punk kid decides to steal from your store, you're not going to give him a beating? The little git deserves all he gets, and his brother joined in the fight too? Hell, string him up along aside him.
Are you seriously suggesting that someone who <b>broke the law in the first place</b> has any rights or grounds to sue? That's like burgler's who sue when they get shot robbing someone's house or something. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Esuna.. you are damn right.
i lost my job at a popular chain store in the uk called Woolworths. i was on my written warnings. 1, for stopping a staff assault. and 2 for stopping a robber.
1, a female staff member, was getting balled out by some townie scumer.. and he was getting all in her face.. trying to be overbearing.. so i walked over.. and i cut in the middle.. and im not as easy to intimidate
so he shoved me.. i headbutted him.
2, we have these things under the tills where u put the cash in and then punch a hdnelt hing and it slides the cash into a safe box thing... only problem is.. over xmas time.. when it was busy.. people were lax on security b4 i worked there, there was 2 stolen. £2500 gone. they would come in with claw hamemrs and just rip the box from its cheap plywood fixings. so when somebody came in to the entertainment bit.. and did the same old.. 'grr we are scary we have a hammer.' i was on the front tills by the door... i just tackled one.. and then the other tried to hit me.. and i kicked him in the balls and then broke his friends jaw ( he did try to hit me also) so yeah.. all that lead to a summary dismissal.
and i was in the local paper.. as a 'violent youth'
pfft lol i was doin my damn job.
edit : the only way i walked away without criminal charges.. is because apparently.. what i did.. was technically to benefit people ( YA THINK?!?!)
then shortly after all the other shite with me happened.. so yeah! fun fun..
If you are taking a morale stand that stealing something is an immoral action and deserves to be dealt with by severity then I cannot disagree with you more. What you call for is vengeance for a break in the morale code that dictates: thou shalt not steal.
What needs to be done is justice; your friend needs to be charged for the item, warned, had it put on his permanent record, whatever. He did NOT need a beating. America has been trying to correct its backasward vigilante citizens for years. The blokes that tackled him are no more morally right than he was for stealing it in the first place. Material goods NEVER can EVER compensate for damaging life in any way.
Sue Away I Say.
If you are taking a morale stand that stealing something is an immoral action and deserves to be dealt with by severity then I cannot disagree with you more. What you call for is vengeance for a break in the morale code that dictates: thou shalt not steal.
What needs to be done is justice; your friend needs to be charged for the item, warned, had it put on his permanent record, whatever. He did NOT need a beating. America has been trying to correct its backasward vigilante citizens for years. The blokes that tackled him are no more morally right than he was for stealing it in the first place. Material goods NEVER can EVER compensate for damaging life in any way.
Sue Away I Say. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
yes tehy bloody well can.
im sure you would think differently if somebody broke into your home. somebody came near your family.. and say for eg.. stole your pc... im not like making a nerd crack im just trying to think of something we all relate too..
its all well and good seeing it from one side... but i reckon.. you all need to be robbed. or experience it.. THEN give your opinion.. not all the beurocratic ****..
Sue nobody. just deal with it... he did wrong.. he got beat down.
his brother steps up.. he got beat down.. sounds fair to me..
EDIT: im not agaisnt the person.. im just like..being honest.. ive seen it and its my views.. if he tried to steal from where i worked... and i saw him.. i would do the same as what they did... he would be lucky to have his face rubbed in concrete imho..
Agreed; did the clerks even try to get him to pay? to them it might have just been an oversight, unless your brother was overtly trying to shoplift...which would be stupid.
Frankly, I don't care what the clerks did the the guy- I thought the old west had a good way of doing things. Eye-for-a-eye ain't that bad, you know. Keeps you in line. Stealing Nasal spray? I'd walk up to the ****, grab him by the shoulder, and ask him to pay in a menacing tone. If he even MOVED in a hostile way, I'd break his jaw that instant.
I mean, America's laws right now SUCK. I mean, full-on, no frickin chance of ever working SUCK ****.
I liked the Old-West- someone rapes your wife, you hunt the sucker down, and kill him how you want to. Torture? Sure. Mummify him while he's still alive? Cut off his genetalia and let him bleed to death? Just fine with me. Now, if you did that to some innocent guy, I'd friggin get you worst than you could imagine.
Its like I heard a guy say on TV when talking about "The Passion of the Christ"-
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I could watch them do that to a pedephile REAL easy. I'd buy popcorn and everything too. But seeing that happen to a innocent man...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The first for theft, the other for assault.
The guy DESERVED the **** kicking he recieved, however it was completely unnecessary (unless of course if Torex is leaving something out, like if he was confronted verbally first or whatnot).
So yeah, throw em both in jail.
The brother I don't blame a bit. He didn't know his idiot brother was stealing crap, he just saw some guys he didn't know ganging up on him. I don't blame him at all for helping out.
Frankly, I don't care what the clerks did the the guy- I thought the old west had a good way of doing things. Eye-for-a-eye ain't that bad, you know. Keeps you in line. Stealing Nasal spray? I'd walk up to the ****, grab him by the shoulder, and ask him to pay in a menacing tone. If he even MOVED in a hostile way, I'd break his jaw that instant.
I mean, America's laws right now SUCK. I mean, full-on, no frickin chance of ever working SUCK ****.
I liked the Old-West- someone rapes your wife, you hunt the sucker down, and kill him how you want to. Torture? Sure. Mummify him while he's still alive? Cut off his genetalia and let him bleed to death? Just fine with me. Now, if you did that to some innocent guy, I'd friggin get you worst than you could imagine.
Its like I heard a guy say on TV when talking about "The Passion of the Christ"-
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I could watch them do that to a pedephile REAL easy. I'd buy popcorn and everything too. But seeing that happen to a innocent man...<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ironic, when Christ preached compassion and forgiveness.
Jesus has gotten so stereotyped these days...and no one even remembers the original meanings of these things.
He may have preached compassion and forgiveness- but he supported government. So the punishment the other 2 thieves were getting to him were fine, cause it was the country's way of keeping the people in line. And the forgiveness, while true, and as you were also to forget- you ARE allowed to lose trust in someone.
Stop the stereotypization.
Exactly, now, if he refused, I'd break his hand and take it myself, but hey.
if the store is dumb enough to hire people who would tackle a shoplifter who wasn?t even trying to run away, they deserve to be sued. merchandise is never worth physical harm, unless the thief intends to cause physical harm to the people confronting him. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You're joking, right? Are you telling me that if some punk kid decides to steal from your store, you're not going to give him a beating? The little git deserves all he gets, and his brother joined in the fight too? Hell, string him up along aside him.
Are you seriously suggesting that someone who <b>broke the law in the first place</b> has any rights or grounds to sue? That's like burgler's who sue when they get shot robbing someone's house or something. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Esuna.. you are damn right.
i lost my job at a popular chain store in the uk called Woolworths. i was on my written warnings. 1, for stopping a staff assault. and 2 for stopping a robber.
1, a female staff member, was getting balled out by some townie scumer.. and he was getting all in her face.. trying to be overbearing.. so i walked over.. and i cut in the middle.. and im not as easy to intimidate
so he shoved me.. i headbutted him.
2, we have these things under the tills where u put the cash in and then punch a hdnelt hing and it slides the cash into a safe box thing... only problem is.. over xmas time.. when it was busy.. people were lax on security b4 i worked there, there was 2 stolen. £2500 gone. they would come in with claw hamemrs and just rip the box from its cheap plywood fixings. so when somebody came in to the entertainment bit.. and did the same old.. 'grr we are scary we have a hammer.' i was on the front tills by the door... i just tackled one.. and then the other tried to hit me.. and i kicked him in the balls and then broke his friends jaw ( he did try to hit me also) so yeah.. all that lead to a summary dismissal.
and i was in the local paper.. as a 'violent youth'
pfft lol i was doin my damn job.
edit : the only way i walked away without criminal charges.. is because apparently.. what i did.. was technically to benefit people ( YA THINK?!?!)
then shortly after all the other shite with me happened.. so yeah! fun fun.. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
The world is screwed.
sure a lot of you are unneccessarily violent and harsh, and a few of you are claiming in that situation you'd do something other than pee your pants and fork over the cash, but Moquiao is a hero
you need to dish out the consequences/punishments as relevent to the situation, and what works best
if a guy who steals a diamond is willing to do 2 years because the $400, 000 is more important to him, then jail time isn't going to help.
And if a guy pays $400, 000 bail / to be busted out of prison, then obviously fining him isn't going to matter
you need to find out what will get the idea of punishment across the most effectively, then scale it according to the situation.
you can't sit down and simply write a verdict for every case that might happen, it won't happen with humans. and unless you want a society of '1' or '0', which gets boring fast, you've just got to try and do the best you can
but please, don't be ridiculously stupid. "hey, lets throw them both in jail"
try and look at it from all perspectives.
and, tell your friend to stop being an idiot, and tell your friends brother that hes a champ