Please Remember Where This Is...

ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody's near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
edited February 2004 in NS General Discussion
<div class="IPBDescription">And what you stand for.</div> Hi all,

This is directed to all the Vets, CM's, old schoolers, random bods who've hung around for ages, 1.04'ers, whatever.

We've all seen a lot of 'OMGZ0R HOW DO I BECOME TEH VET?!?/111' etc etc, and the general trend on the forums lately has become a little nasty. I know you're tired of it, and just like the 'Use the search' nastiness that became present quite a while ago, it's easy to jump the gun and come down hard on the guy.

This is a reminder of what you stand for. That high postcount, or early member no, or CM badge, or Vet badge, as far as the new person knows, means <i>you are somehow part of 'NS'</i> That's NS, the whole community, not a dev, whatever. People have, and always will make snap judgements about a whole group based on their experience with one individual (I'm hoping I don't need to give examples, but consider the NS opinion towards the CS community, and you'll see where I'm coming from) and that nasty reply just from impatience of seeing these threads repeated will <b>cost us players. This new blood is what keeps NS alive.</b>

The developers graveyard is littered with the games that should have succeeded but didn't due to playercount, and do you want to feel your actions contributing to NS going the same way?

Basically, try & be nice. I know it's hard, and the random guy will ALWAYS click Gen.Disc first rather than New Player, but that's how people tick. I know sometimes I need to, and I think a lot of others need to reflect on their posts before clicking 'Submit' too.

Thanks all,

Shockwave

Comments

  • GadzukoGadzuko Join Date: 2002-12-26 Member: 11556Members, Constellation
    Listen to the man.
  • Renegade.Renegade. Join Date: 2003-01-15 Member: 12313Members, Constellation
    yep, sometimes fellow vets can be the KKK's of newbashing. I totally agree, we were all like them at a time and had to figure things out, so give them room to do the same.
  • QuietstormQuietstorm Join Date: 2004-02-18 Member: 26670Members, Constellation
    Agreed, the NS community can be rough, but please try not being so rough... We wouldn't want people scared away just because others asked simple questions and were flamed. Thanks Shockwave for bringing this up <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    /me salutes Shockwave <!--emo&::marine::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/marine.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='marine.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • JezpuhJezpuh Join Date: 2003-04-03 Member: 15157Banned
  • Jabba_The_HuntJabba_The_Hunt Join Date: 2003-01-05 Member: 11850Members
    yeah all true, but we shouldn't mis-lead them either <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • JaspJasp Join Date: 2003-02-04 Member: 13076Members
    NS as a community is growing, growth is painfull.

    The admins do thier job and they do it well but they shouldnt have to lock posts or delete foul language, we as a community need to show respect to other people even if thier questions are pointless or useless. If your going to answer with a quite witty arrogant comment just dont bother posting in the first place +++ postcount isent everything.

    Show objective views to the opinions that have been put forward not just the normal pointless comments that have no affect on the thread they are being posted in.

    Well now im off my high horse, very high horse i just want to say treat others as you wish to be treated yourself.
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    New players should just realize that every time they see some sarcastic remark on these forums, the person is generally just joking around and having fun.

    For example, if I wasn't being serious I would respond to Shockwave like this:


    "Be quiet shockwave, we know I'm superior to all of you"

    But I'm sure to a newcomer to the NS community you wouldn't realize that.

    Part of learning the NS community is learning to lighten up I guess.
  • DaxxDaxx Join Date: 2002-04-16 Member: 460Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    So since I registered before all of you, then I'm better somehow? <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->


    Bleh, I take ALL forum posts (Not just NS's) with a grain of salt. More often its a brick.
  • FireStormFireStorm Join Date: 2002-11-06 Member: 7390Members
  • tseepratseepra Join Date: 2002-12-11 Member: 10530Members
    So true, but being a vet dosen't really mean all that much. Like today I was on a playing some combat and a fellow Kharaa asked me why that guy had a yellow medalion next to his name, I told him that he was a veteran. Then the veteran started useing "1337" speak and everythime he killed something he spammed "pwnd". After a few kills the guy who asked my about the medalion symbol said, "I thought he was supposed to be a vet".

    So you people with the medalions it's up to you to set an wxample for the newcomers, so that ns dosen't just turn into a sophisticated cs.
  • Renegade.Renegade. Join Date: 2003-01-15 Member: 12313Members, Constellation
    Same here... I neither have a vet icon or a early join date, but (as my quote hints at) I've been playing NS since v1.00. So vet symbols and all those other tacky symbols are not that meaningful in deciding real veteran status.
    If a ww2 soldier is now 95 years old but has no purple cross or any other achievement awards but was fought in almost every battle, does that not still make him a veteran?
  • ForlornForlorn Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2634Banned
    Veteran is someone who is involved with competetive gameplay of NS, which I might add is much harder and completely different from regular pub play NS, please don't mix up the term veteran with the meaning that being a vet simply indicates you have been playing since 1.0.


    Besides, the vet term don't mean much now, it used to mean that if you were a vet you were the best of the clanners (or some of them) but it don't mean crap now.


    Being a vet means you get special access to the forums and a cool icon, that's all...
  • ShockehShockeh If a packet drops on the web and nobody&#39;s near to see it... Join Date: 2002-11-19 Member: 9336NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    Well, let's not go into the whole Vets & Veteran topic again. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    People will relax as they settle in & get to know various people. I'd like to consider myself not amazing, but above average at NS, but if I ever catch myself saying 'pwned' or suchlike to a player <b>I'm not already on familiar terms with</b>, (I stress this because I do it all the time when playing with people I know, but we also scream 'H444X!!' at everything too, so there you go.) I shall stab myself in the left eyeball. With a rusty spoon.
  • DaxxDaxx Join Date: 2002-04-16 Member: 460Members, Constellation, Reinforced - Shadow
    <!--QuoteBegin-@nthony+Feb 28 2004, 07:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (@nthony @ Feb 28 2004, 07:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Same here... I neither have a vet icon or a early join date, but (as my quote hints at) I've been playing NS since v1.00. So vet symbols and all those other tacky symbols are not that meaningful in deciding real veteran status.
    If a ww2 soldier is now 95 years old but has no purple cross or any other achievement awards but was fought in almost every battle, does that not still make him a veteran? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    Indeed. The Vet Icon pretty much means diddly anymore. I don't consider a Veteran Icon holder a Vet unless I know them.
  • digzdigz be still, maggot Join Date: 2002-05-07 Member: 588Members, NS1 Playtester, Forum Moderators, Constellation
    *pokes head in* ahhhh, first post in a year... agreed shockwave. Lighten up folks <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
  • Crono5Crono5 Join Date: 2003-07-22 Member: 18357Members
    <!--QuoteBegin-Shockwave+Feb 28 2004, 08:04 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Shockwave @ Feb 28 2004, 08:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Well, let's not go into the whole Vets & Veteran topic again. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->

    People will relax as they settle in & get to know various people. I'd like to consider myself not amazing, but above average at NS, but if I ever catch myself saying 'pwned' or suchlike to a player <b>I'm not already on familiar terms with</b>, (I stress this because I do it all the time when playing with people I know, but we also scream 'H444X!!' at everything too, so there you go.) I shall stab myself in the left eyeball. With a rusty spoon. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
    The only time I ever really spammed pwned was in TFC, I regulared on this one server, and one of my friends was ALWAYS on the other team and he was eighty-million times better than me, so when I got my fourteenth cumulitive (meaning total for all time) kill on him (Scout vs. Solly), I just totally flipped out and held a party and shoved a big sign up his ****, post first, that said 'Pwn3d' on it. Well, not really, but still... I said pwned once or twice...
  • uberbrokeuberbroke Join Date: 2002-11-01 Member: 2438Members
    I used to use l337 speak back then.... When I was playing cs.

    Since NS, I've been a bit more sober.
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