He's going to buy off the local radio transmitting station. <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-MedHead+Feb 25 2004, 12:15 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (MedHead @ Feb 25 2004, 12:15 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> How are you going to transmit the FM signal any respectable distance? <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> the object of the product is so everyone can broadcast is to a SMALL distance ie the distance between the player and the emitter. You don't want the whole country listening in on your jukebox, especially considering you're probably not the only one with such a device, and every once in a while, a certain frequency will be used by 2 emitters.
I could see that limiting the usability of the product then. I guess that would be outweighed by the cost. At $30 (or so), it's rather inexpensive. But the main problem I see is "why?".
<!--QuoteBegin-Cereal_KillR+Feb 24 2004, 08:05 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> (Cereal_KillR @ Feb 24 2004, 08:05 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->the object of the product is so everyone can broadcast is to a SMALL distance ie the distance between the player and the emitter. You don't want the whole country listening in on your jukebox, especially considering you're probably not the only one with such a device, and every once in a while, a certain frequency will be used by 2 emitters.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Exactly. The idea is to give the FM transmitter enough juice to broadcast maybe 10 meters. I'm not trying to get a vigilante radio station on wheels here, just something where I can slave a hard drive on my computer, block it with mp3's, take it out and plug it into the device in my car, then jam it all under a car seat or something. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I could see that limiting the usability of the product then. I guess that would be outweighed by the cost. At $30 (or so), it's rather inexpensive. But the main problem I see is "why?"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> Because I can. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->How are you going to transmit the FM signal any respectable distance?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd--> It's all powered off the car's electrical system. I'll just tap into the appropriate power cable running to the trunk. I'm sure I can manage with a cool 14.4v (engine running) or 12v (engine not running). <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
ah I didn't get that either... I was thinking, "great, you'll have your own radio station while you're driving around your block!" hehe... if the computer's gonna be in the car, wouldn't it be easier to hard-wire it to the radio somehow? not that I know the first thing about electronics <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--> just sounds intuitively roundabout to transmit via radio...
a computer in the car, anyway -- how cool is that :> you can... uh... what do they call it when you drive around with a wireless modem looking for open networks to jump in on...
... but ... now even <i>I'm</i> confused. <!--emo&???--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/confused.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='confused.gif' /><!--endemo-->
- slave a hard drive to the computer and block it with mp3's - disconnect the hard drive from the computer - bring the hard drive to the car and plug it into the mp3 player device thingy
No computer.
The only computer component that'll be in the car is the hard drive itself. The other major parts of the device are the microcontroller and supporting circuitry, the FM transmitter circuit, the 64x8bit data buffer circuits, and the connection for the hard drive. Everything will be packed nice and tight onto a custom-cut PCB.
The idea is that every stage will be self-contained. You provide the hard drive blocked full of your favorite tunes. While operating, the microcontroller keeps the data buffer full and accepts user input, and the decoding and transmitting stages are handled by totally seperate independent circuitry.
<i><u>note to admins/moderators</u>: Could you split this topic for me? It would appear it is taking over..... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--></i>
uh...apart from the fact that this thread somehow got carried away, lets get back to topic <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
After looking around i decided to come to Sony's <b>D-NE10</b> or <b>D-NE900</b>.
Now, the d-ne10 is really slim (and it comes in black!) with a charging terminal used to re-charge the NiMh batteries. Here are the specs:
Features # New 2003 Sony's ultra-slim (17.7mm in thickness) and ultra-stylish design CD/MP3/ATRAC3/ATRAC3plus corresponding CD Player. # ATRAC3 and ATRAC3plus Correspondence # Up to 490 songs (MP3 quality) or 90 CD quality song playback in 1 CD-R using ATRAC3plus # MP3 Playback Capability # CD-R/RW Playback # Supports MP3 Bit Rate 16-320 Kbps # 2-mode Skip-Free G-Protection Technology? Ultimate Skip Protection from Sony # Digital Mega Bass? Sound System # Redesigned 2003 CD-TEXT corresponding backlit stick remote # Digital Volume Function # 2 Line/10 Character Dot Matrix Display # Up to 85 Hours Continuous ATRAC3plus Playback with 2 "AA" Batteries and rechargeable battery # Easy Access Folder Function # MiniDisc Digital Link (optic output) # Digital optical/Line/Headphone out # 5mW + 5mW (16 Ohms) headphone output # DC input/voltage (V): 4.5V
Specifications # Dimensions: 132.7 (W) X 17.7 (H) X 127 mm # Weight: 148 g
Accessories Headphone (stereo mini-plug), backlit CD TEXT stick remote, rechargable batteries (NH-WM (A) ?2), Sony OpenMG SonicStage software, AC power adapter, carrying porch
This one is new, coming out just this month. It weighs slightly 20g heavier but comparing the 2, the 900 has a 4 line display on the main unit which probly explains the extra weight.
Specs:
Features # New 2003 Sony's slim and stylish design CD/MP3/ATRAC3/ATRAC3plus corresponding CD Player. # ATRAC3 and ATRAC3plus Correspondence # Up to 490 songs (MP3 quality) or 90 CD quality song playback in 1 CD-R using ATRAC3plus # MP3 Playback Capability # CD-R/RW Playback # Supports MP3 Bit Rate 16-320 Kbps # 2-mode Skip-Free G-Protection Technology? Ultimate Skip Protection from Sony # Digital Mega Bass? Sound System # Redesigned 2003 CD-TEXT corresponding backlit stick remote # Digital Volume Function # 2 Line/10 Character Dot Matrix Display # Up to 85 Hours Continuous ATRAC3plus Playback with 2 "AA" Batteries and rechargeable battery # Easy Access Folder Function # MiniDisc Digital Link (optic output) # Digital optical/Line/Headphone out # 5mW + 5mW (16 Ohms) headphone output # DC input/voltage (V): 4.5V
Specifications # Dimensions: 139.4 (W) X 21.8 (H) X 127 mm # Weight: 168g
Accessories Headphone (stereo mini-plug), backlit CD TEXT stick remote, rechargable batteries (NH-WM (A) ?2), Sony OpenMG SonicStage software, AC power adapter, carrying porch
Colors available: Silver / Blue / Black
Both of them comes with the Sony's SonicStage software 2.0 which converts tracks in the NEW ATRAC3PLUS format. For MD users, this is the only way to experience high bit rate music before Hi-MD arrives later this year. 490 songs on 1 cd-rw cd is now possible!
Currently im torn between the 2....decisions, decisions decisions!
But if you insist, I would just say don't go with sony as they're often overpriced compare to other players of their class which are much less expensive. If the second one has only a large screen to back it up, I would go with the first one as I'll always be using the remote instead. Of course, I would rather get an iPod but you seem to want a cd player <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I replied to such a topic a while ago and my point stands. I have a CD player (old one though, not mp3/CD-RW/CD-R compatible) and 3 minidisc players.
If you want something for your money, go with a minidisc player. You will get better quality than a CD player, more music and faster write (the new minidisc writers have now the ability to just click and drag the music from your computer).
And for those saying that the mp3 players are superior or 'the future', let me tell you from my own experience that they are far from that. An mp3 player is simply a small disk with the ability to store and play music files, while an MD will allow you to record music from anywhere in real time or mp3s (and other files) from your computer, with much better quality, less battery consumption (at least my new MD writer/player has an amazing stamina with one single AA battery - a LOT more than the CD player or any mp3 I've had in my hands), and much much more space. Forget those mp3 players with ooh and aah space on the disc. You can carry a few of the little MDs with you and have more music with better quality.
But of course, that is only my opinion. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Mmm 60 gig of 320kbps mp3's Mmm sexy Firewire <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd--> Ive owned 3 CD players and 2 MD players and one portable storage device.
I opt for the portable storage device. Its a just a tad bigger but it attactches on to my belt so thats all that matters to me.
Holds 20 gigs of space. For anything. You can record music with a micropphone attachtment or listen to the radio on it if u wanted too. Jsut like an MD player
With firewire/USB its very fast and easy to transfer files back and forth to PC. Drag and drop. u can use mutilple audio formates as well.
You dont need to carry around extra MDs. Which is what I used to do.
(I used to be a big MD fan) I have a binder full of MDs lol even though you can re-write them I still wanted to keep my current music hence I have about 40 of them or so.
With my Nomad Jukebox I can make playlists, etc and everything that I put on is automatically searchable to you. I can use a small scroll wheel and search and/ or play all tracks by album name, artist name, music genre, pre made playlists etc. Select certain tracks or play all by whatever catagory I choose.
I can also play around with the EAX sound settings and adjust and fine tune my bass and other settings to dozens of different options. With a push of a button I can make my music sound like im in a concert hall or open air theater and it really does make a differnce.
Its powered by a rechargable lithium ion battery like one of my previous MD players. I have another one that is powered by a single AA battery.
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the object of the product is so everyone can broadcast is to a SMALL distance ie the distance between the player and the emitter. You don't want the whole country listening in on your jukebox, especially considering you're probably not the only one with such a device, and every once in a while, a certain frequency will be used by 2 emitters.
Exactly. The idea is to give the FM transmitter enough juice to broadcast maybe 10 meters. I'm not trying to get a vigilante radio station on wheels here, just something where I can slave a hard drive on my computer, block it with mp3's, take it out and plug it into the device in my car, then jam it all under a car seat or something. <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I could see that limiting the usability of the product then. I guess that would be outweighed by the cost. At $30 (or so), it's rather inexpensive. But the main problem I see is "why?"<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Because I can. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->How are you going to transmit the FM signal any respectable distance?<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's all powered off the car's electrical system. I'll just tap into the appropriate power cable running to the trunk. I'm sure I can manage with a cool 14.4v (engine running) or 12v (engine not running). <!--emo&:)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->
a computer in the car, anyway -- how cool is that :> you can... uh... what do they call it when you drive around with a wireless modem looking for open networks to jump in on...
- slave a hard drive to the computer and block it with mp3's
- disconnect the hard drive from the computer
- bring the hard drive to the car and plug it into the mp3 player device thingy
No computer.
The only computer component that'll be in the car is the hard drive itself. The other major parts of the device are the microcontroller and supporting circuitry, the FM transmitter circuit, the 64x8bit data buffer circuits, and the connection for the hard drive. Everything will be packed nice and tight onto a custom-cut PCB.
The idea is that every stage will be self-contained. You provide the hard drive blocked full of your favorite tunes. While operating, the microcontroller keeps the data buffer full and accepts user input, and the decoding and transmitting stages are handled by totally seperate independent circuitry.
<i><u>note to admins/moderators</u>: Could you split this topic for me? It would appear it is taking over..... <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo--></i>
After looking around i decided to come to Sony's <b>D-NE10</b> or <b>D-NE900</b>.
<u>Sony's D-NE10</u>
<img src='http://www.audiocubes.com/images/f_sony_dne10.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
Now, the d-ne10 is really slim (and it comes in black!) with a charging terminal used to re-charge the NiMh batteries. Here are the specs:
Features
# New 2003 Sony's ultra-slim (17.7mm in thickness) and ultra-stylish design CD/MP3/ATRAC3/ATRAC3plus corresponding CD Player.
# ATRAC3 and ATRAC3plus Correspondence
# Up to 490 songs (MP3 quality) or 90 CD quality song playback in 1 CD-R using ATRAC3plus
# MP3 Playback Capability
# CD-R/RW Playback
# Supports MP3 Bit Rate 16-320 Kbps
# 2-mode Skip-Free G-Protection Technology? Ultimate Skip Protection from Sony
# Digital Mega Bass? Sound System
# Redesigned 2003 CD-TEXT corresponding backlit stick remote
# Digital Volume Function
# 2 Line/10 Character Dot Matrix Display
# Up to 85 Hours Continuous ATRAC3plus Playback with 2 "AA" Batteries and rechargeable battery
# Easy Access Folder Function
# MiniDisc Digital Link (optic output)
# Digital optical/Line/Headphone out
# 5mW + 5mW (16 Ohms) headphone output
# DC input/voltage (V): 4.5V
Specifications
# Dimensions: 132.7 (W) X 17.7 (H) X 127 mm
# Weight: 148 g
Accessories
Headphone (stereo mini-plug), backlit CD TEXT stick remote, rechargable batteries (NH-WM (A) ?2), Sony OpenMG SonicStage software, AC power adapter, carrying porch
Colors available: Silver / Black Gold
<u>D-NE900</u>
<img src='http://www.audiocubes.com/images/f_sony_dne900.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
This one is new, coming out just this month. It weighs slightly 20g heavier but comparing the 2, the 900 has a 4 line display on the main unit which probly explains the extra weight.
Specs:
Features
# New 2003 Sony's slim and stylish design CD/MP3/ATRAC3/ATRAC3plus corresponding CD Player.
# ATRAC3 and ATRAC3plus Correspondence
# Up to 490 songs (MP3 quality) or 90 CD quality song playback in 1 CD-R using ATRAC3plus
# MP3 Playback Capability
# CD-R/RW Playback
# Supports MP3 Bit Rate 16-320 Kbps
# 2-mode Skip-Free G-Protection Technology? Ultimate Skip Protection from Sony
# Digital Mega Bass? Sound System
# Redesigned 2003 CD-TEXT corresponding backlit stick remote
# Digital Volume Function
# 2 Line/10 Character Dot Matrix Display
# Up to 85 Hours Continuous ATRAC3plus Playback with 2 "AA" Batteries and rechargeable battery
# Easy Access Folder Function
# MiniDisc Digital Link (optic output)
# Digital optical/Line/Headphone out
# 5mW + 5mW (16 Ohms) headphone output
# DC input/voltage (V): 4.5V
Specifications
# Dimensions: 139.4 (W) X 21.8 (H) X 127 mm
# Weight: 168g
Accessories
Headphone (stereo mini-plug), backlit CD TEXT stick remote, rechargable batteries (NH-WM (A) ?2), Sony OpenMG SonicStage software, AC power adapter, carrying porch
Colors available: Silver / Blue / Black
Both of them comes with the Sony's SonicStage software 2.0 which converts tracks in the NEW ATRAC3PLUS format. For MD users, this is the only way to experience high bit rate music before Hi-MD arrives later this year. 490 songs on 1 cd-rw cd is now possible!
Currently im torn between the 2....decisions, decisions decisions!
But if you insist, I would just say don't go with sony as they're often overpriced compare to other players of their class which are much less expensive.
If the second one has only a large screen to back it up, I would go with the first one as I'll always be using the remote instead. Of course, I would rather get an iPod but you seem to want a cd player <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
1) the idea of converting my 100's of cds (yes COMPACT DISCS ) is just overwhelming.
2) I hear that the re-chargable battery is unique to the unit? and it doesnt last long (1 yr?) and i'll have to spend $$$ to buy a new battery?
yeah i agree with the remote thing. i'll probly end up with the 900 series.
<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>QUOTE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I replied to such a topic a while ago and my point stands. I have a CD player (old one though, not mp3/CD-RW/CD-R compatible) and 3 minidisc players.
If you want something for your money, go with a minidisc player. You will get better quality than a CD player, more music and faster write (the new minidisc writers have now the ability to just click and drag the music from your computer).
And for those saying that the mp3 players are superior or 'the future', let me tell you from my own experience that they are far from that. An mp3 player is simply a small disk with the ability to store and play music files, while an MD will allow you to record music from anywhere in real time or mp3s (and other files) from your computer, with much better quality, less battery consumption (at least my new MD writer/player has an amazing stamina with one single AA battery - a LOT more than the CD player or any mp3 I've had in my hands), and much much more space. Forget those mp3 players with ooh and aah space on the disc. You can carry a few of the little MDs with you and have more music with better quality.
But of course, that is only my opinion. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Mmm 60 gig of 320kbps mp3's
Mmm sexy Firewire <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ive owned 3 CD players and 2 MD players and one portable storage device.
I opt for the portable storage device. Its a just a tad bigger but it attactches on to my belt so thats all that matters to me.
Holds 20 gigs of space. For anything. You can record music with a micropphone attachtment or listen to the radio on it if u wanted too. Jsut like an MD player
With firewire/USB its very fast and easy to transfer files back and forth to PC. Drag and drop. u can use mutilple audio formates as well.
You dont need to carry around extra MDs. Which is what I used to do.
(I used to be a big MD fan) I have a binder full of MDs lol even though you can re-write them I still wanted to keep my current music hence I have about 40 of them or so.
With my Nomad Jukebox I can make playlists, etc and everything that I put on is automatically searchable to you. I can use a small scroll wheel and search and/ or play all tracks by album name, artist name, music genre, pre made playlists etc.
Select certain tracks or play all by whatever catagory I choose.
I can also play around with the EAX sound settings and adjust and fine tune my bass and other settings to dozens of different options. With a push of a button I can make my music sound like im in a concert hall or open air theater and it really does make a differnce.
Its powered by a rechargable lithium ion battery like one of my previous MD players. I have another one that is powered by a single AA battery.