Team Play
Gecko_God_Of_Dooom
Join Date: 2004-02-10 Member: 26353Members
<div class="IPBDescription">To newbies, and Non Newbies as well</div> I noticed alot, espical on NS, other players will blame others for thier loss.
This is about 25% accurate. Don't Go onos with one hive, unless your realy good. Save you 75-100 rez for when you get a second hive. When you have full rez, it goes to the other players. When everyone has full rez, it goes into the alian bank. (at least it seems that way)
Thus if you are new to the game, and playing a NS instead of CO map, please just eather gorge or skulk. Learn to play the other classes in CO.
For example, Go lerk in CO, give yourself all abiltiy upgrades, then get one Defence, one Movement, and One Sensory. but for real good practice, dont get a sensory or another upgrade, pretend its only two hives. this will help you later on. Same with Fade, and Onos.
Now for the other 75% of the team. I had a room mate who was a realy good counter strike player. I was complaining about a CS team one time, cause they realy did suck. most where 0-5, and couldn't even cover a spot where 2 or 3 of em where watching. But then a friend of mine said. Don't complain, You cant help them get better, because they probrably dont realy care enough. But you Can start pulling the team weight instead. If they can only cair 2 pounds of a 10 pound bag, get better and stronger and carry the rest of the weight, it will only make you better. Thus I devolped the idea, That all games come down to the players, including myself, Thus If I want my team to win, I must get better, if my team isnt doing very good at all, then I must do it. The resposibiltiy is not up to someone else, it my resposibiltiy for the team to win.
From that point on, I changed. For the better. No on NS its a litter harder, to pull the waight of the entire team. but still partly possible
last night I was on A server. they didn't ahve DC yet, and no second hive. and a few rez chamber. I had enough rez to go onos. So I ent to a hive, went gorge, droped a hive, and 3 DCs. My team was very thank full, and With in about 2 mins, I killed enough people again to where I could go onos. I asked if someone could put up some movents, and thankfully someone did have the rez so they put it up. Thus I was able to effectivly Go onos, and clear out a third hive.
In short
Take resposibilty for YOUR actions, Take Resposibiltiy for YOUR TEAM. your not only on the team, you are the team, everyone on your team is the team. If your team loses, 75% of the time its your fault. Why? cause maybe you could have done something to help out the team to win.
its a very good mindset to have, delope it early and you will get far
This is about 25% accurate. Don't Go onos with one hive, unless your realy good. Save you 75-100 rez for when you get a second hive. When you have full rez, it goes to the other players. When everyone has full rez, it goes into the alian bank. (at least it seems that way)
Thus if you are new to the game, and playing a NS instead of CO map, please just eather gorge or skulk. Learn to play the other classes in CO.
For example, Go lerk in CO, give yourself all abiltiy upgrades, then get one Defence, one Movement, and One Sensory. but for real good practice, dont get a sensory or another upgrade, pretend its only two hives. this will help you later on. Same with Fade, and Onos.
Now for the other 75% of the team. I had a room mate who was a realy good counter strike player. I was complaining about a CS team one time, cause they realy did suck. most where 0-5, and couldn't even cover a spot where 2 or 3 of em where watching. But then a friend of mine said. Don't complain, You cant help them get better, because they probrably dont realy care enough. But you Can start pulling the team weight instead. If they can only cair 2 pounds of a 10 pound bag, get better and stronger and carry the rest of the weight, it will only make you better. Thus I devolped the idea, That all games come down to the players, including myself, Thus If I want my team to win, I must get better, if my team isnt doing very good at all, then I must do it. The resposibiltiy is not up to someone else, it my resposibiltiy for the team to win.
From that point on, I changed. For the better. No on NS its a litter harder, to pull the waight of the entire team. but still partly possible
last night I was on A server. they didn't ahve DC yet, and no second hive. and a few rez chamber. I had enough rez to go onos. So I ent to a hive, went gorge, droped a hive, and 3 DCs. My team was very thank full, and With in about 2 mins, I killed enough people again to where I could go onos. I asked if someone could put up some movents, and thankfully someone did have the rez so they put it up. Thus I was able to effectivly Go onos, and clear out a third hive.
In short
Take resposibilty for YOUR actions, Take Resposibiltiy for YOUR TEAM. your not only on the team, you are the team, everyone on your team is the team. If your team loses, 75% of the time its your fault. Why? cause maybe you could have done something to help out the team to win.
its a very good mindset to have, delope it early and you will get far
Comments
true that you can help the team...... but only to a point
say you're in a 6v6 game....
if all your teammates are res **** and go onos at 1 hive and DIE
how much could you possibly do before the marines kill you?
even if you're an "elite" player you can only do so much...
and lets face it.... if your team wont defend you while you build resource towers and you get mowed down as a gorge constantly.... you WILL lose no matter how hard YOU (single person) try
it all boils down to teamwork... its pretty much the whole team's fault (yourself included) if you lose.... unless you're just outskilled (aim wise, tactic wise) then nobody is to blame and its a gg
But it is indeed not entirely correct. One can only compensate for so many rambo's or muppets at one time.
Alltogether it's some good stuff to think about.
Remember : the time spend lamenting on the terrible skills of your team could be just what you need to strike critical blows to the marines.
Remember : the time spend lamenting on the terrible skills of your team could be just what you need to strike critical blows to the marines. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
well yes but......
are we talking about an equally un-cooperative marine team? or an organized one? it makes all the difference really
EDIT: if you're going to be the only one putting down rts.... its almost impossible to have enough res for 2nd hive before marines lock both of them down..
Lucky you, the marines didn't rush to the hive, level the DC's, build pg and then level the hive -that's what usually happens when I try to be "noble" with a bad team. <!--emo&;)--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/wink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='wink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
If all the good teamplayers are on the marine team leaving you with total noobs , feel free to flame them <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Else , a random comm with random rambos aren't that dangerous even with several elec RTs. With a second good player on your side , they will go down surprisingly fast.
As a learning comm I have one thing to say to players: STAND STILL when you want a medpack! It takes a while to get to you and when you're running around like a loon it's easy to drop it in the wrong place or give it to the wrong person.
NS is an intense team game. You can't win without good team tactics. However, a trained team versus an amateur one will have a very short and very uninteresting game.
granted 25% of the time theres not a whole lot you can do, specialy in extreme conditions. what you will find is the more you pull your own waight, is about half the players on the pubs will begin to listen to you
if possible, TRY to only comm when either nobody else is willing or when the games are relatively small (so even if you do bad not that many will get angry lol)
well that or ask the whole team and if they agree then go for it
practice with the above situations until you learn some strategies and locations (especially siege locations) before you comm "serious" games <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
EDIT: oh and before you comm..... learn some strategies from other comms too... i myself find it very helpful sometimes to use strats that i learned from other comms
In CS, working together is a secondary goal to the primary goal of score..
Most FPS multiplayers are the same, players try to score as many points as possible to show how skilled they are.
In NS however, the needs of the team generally outweigh the few who can get little pleasure out of their K/D ratio.
2) Since NS is more team orientated than CS, roles on your team become much more important. So if one person who is supposed to be attacking the hive is instead knifing the res tower, his entire team suffers when the marines attack fails and all the res they had were wasted. That is a direct result of one individual who didn't know their role on the team.
So while it's important to work on individual skills and approach each round trying to do your best, it's also important to know that if your team doesn't share that goal, you will lose regardless of how many RT's you build, or heavies you weld..
That's why the clan world has sucked so many players off of pubs, it's a chance to play with a team of people who are also looking for the good solid well played game with all team members working towards a win...
My 2 cents
-Z