Just Thought I Would Let Everyone Know...
Impy_The_Lerk
Join Date: 2003-05-24 Member: 16652Banned
Join Date: 2003-05-24 Member: 16652Banned
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<div class="IPBDescription">that i made dn ^_^</div> just thought i would inform everyone that i finnaly made my idolized clan
and will happily be scrimming with them from hear on out (with any luck) ^_^
wanna thank all the clans that got me to where i am and even thank the clans that were holding me back ;p
j/k much <3
anyway im pritty spiked to be playing along one of my most idolized and in my oppinon one of the best comanders this game has ever seen (none other then <dn`lucid>
and i also get to play along side one of the scariest fades iv ever played with in my years of playing ns <dn`leech>
some of the best marines that watch my back sloe,gin,pro,and incin (when hes not in the chair)
anyway just a bit of a shout out and a heads up ... one of the top ten clans just got a smidgen better ^_^
-Impy
and will happily be scrimming with them from hear on out (with any luck) ^_^
wanna thank all the clans that got me to where i am and even thank the clans that were holding me back ;p
j/k much <3
anyway im pritty spiked to be playing along one of my most idolized and in my oppinon one of the best comanders this game has ever seen (none other then <dn`lucid>
and i also get to play along side one of the scariest fades iv ever played with in my years of playing ns <dn`leech>
some of the best marines that watch my back sloe,gin,pro,and incin (when hes not in the chair)
anyway just a bit of a shout out and a heads up ... one of the top ten clans just got a smidgen better ^_^
-Impy
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Finally everyone (and I mean <b>every</b>one. Yes that's right, every single damn one of you not a single exception) in NS that is in a clan eventually develops a MAJOR attitude problem. They become an ****, they **** and whine about how they're better then such-and-such, and I will NEVER associate with such people.
Congrats though? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Be-wow bicha bow bow!
I COMPLETELY AGREE
does that make you feel better now?
p.s. never heard of ev'. brb while I brag to my friends about getting invited to little league baseball.
Thank you so much for insulting me. I try to be nice to everyone, even though I'm in a clan. I don't try to act like I'm better than anyone. I don't even THINK that I'm better than anyone. I'm nice to almost everyone, polite to every single person I meet... If you're going to discriminate against people based on if they're in a clan or not, I think it's YOU who has the attitude problem.
Any of those would be cool.
Congrats, impeh!
SuperTeflon:
- A clan is nothing but a group of people trying to play together to reach some goal. Be it either to win a lague or to just have fun. It may be friends, or it may be organised competitive people.
- Playing in a clan usually enforces some rules like: "Stick to the plan when we're playing that clan-war!". Sensible enough, no? I have not heard of any clan that denies its members the right to play like a regular pub player on any pub server. However the "rules" you follow in a clanwar is the plan. The overall organised and executed plan that makes some clans som very coordinated. I believe these are the rules you are refering to, or am I mistaken?
- Arrogance and rudeness is nothing that should be associated with clanmembers and clans exclusivly. I have experienced just as many non-clanners with attitude problems as clanners with attitude problems.
- There are MANY nice people out there. Even in competitive clans. Those who scream loudest are most often heard, and often the most rude ones too, so I -understand- some of the misconceptions. But I find them a bit short-sighted.
- By stating all what you did in your post, you show the same kind of arrogance and rude behaviour that you say you see in clanners, and disgust.
Congratulations, Impy. Good work.
(Yes, I am in a clan, and I enjoy it. Yes, I am a nice to everyone I meet, as are most other clanners I know of.)
Hi! Today in class we're going to cover the topic of generalisations and elitism =D
Generalisations are a symptom of the human condition. Our minds are rigged up for speedy recognition in order to ensure our survival; we have mental categories or 'boxes' that we put things in to quickly come to conclusions. An example of this would be sticking your hand in a fire... as the flames sear your flesh causing you to pull your hand out, your brain will quite happily throw flames into the 'omgdonttouchithurts' box and you'll be hard-pressed to make yourself do it again even with conscious effort =3
Generalisations are much like this where we take subjects and categorise them like everything else. Unfortunately this is where the system falls on it's face a little. People are incredibly varied as are most things in the world and so it leads to things like using a computer once, it blowing up in your face and you writing off computers as a bad thing, or even meeting one person from a group of individuals who was um... 'negative' and this causes you to regard the other members of the group with the same impression. Course in this fun lil clan situation I don't doubt the clan haters have met a lot more than just one person of bad attitude so their generalisation is a bit more justified but still a generalisation with the flaws that not everything fits neatly in such clearly defined bounds playing it's effects.
As for why clans can be breeding grounds for aloofness as much as comradare we have to look to elitism. This is essentially the foundation behind such organisations as the free masons and was even utilised within the nazis to some effect in the world war when they had control of germany. The idea is of a selective group; a group that not just anyone can be in, after all if everyone is in it then it's not a group anymore is it? By having this division from 'normal' people the people who manage to become accepted into the clan/society/whatever get a feeling of being 'different' or 'special', the very basis for elitist attitude. However it doesn't just stop there... because they're now in a select group those outside the group will usually change their relations with the person involved. These can be as simple as jealousy, respect or other unfounded reactions despite the fact it's still the same person as before. Quite often the base desire to be accepted or distinguished will drive many to lust for a position in an elite and some will even come to measure their 'worth' by whether they're attached to a group or not. In order to show their attachment to whatever social unit they're affiliated with the members will often wear uniforms, silly hats, strips (football) or some other noticable tag denoting their alliegance. An unfortunate symptom of this condition is that quite often members of these sections can start to believe the mythology surrounding grouping and this will cause varying effects such as an imagined class divide or an inflated sense of self-worth. Not all people will fall into this trap obviously, however those that do fufil a cycle of seperation between the grouped and the groupless.
Speaking from personal opinion now I kinda deem 'clanning' rather silly and irrelevant as outside of identification within tournaments as it honestly changes nothing. Many will argue that clans have a better sense of cohesion than non-clanners however this is based on the mistaken ideal that a clan differs from a group of people who always play together and have a good mutual understanding without a need to smear their name in pointless ascii or render themselves with a cliched label =3
"OMG I AM [ILK]GEM!!! I BELONG TO 'I LOVE KITTIES' AND WE ROXXOR SO HARD!!!"
Anyways... in our next class we'll be covering the effects of poking some with a stick and why cats are just way cooler than monkeys =D
all the same congrats impy... it's nice to fufil a dream ^^
However, to the clan bashers:
Why don't you crawl out of your hole and put a brain into your head? The ignorance is amazing.
All that ever happens to me, when I play on as a vet on a server, is that people say I'm bs or a hacker. It's fun, really.
I help anyone who asks me for help and I constantly strive to improve my game.
As for the rest, in my experience most NS clan members are helpful, well educated in things NS, and generally help drive up the skills of less experienced players. However, upon joining a pub server with a large number of players from a single clan, the experience can be much different. The best way for me to describe it is "group think". There is often an expectation that the other players on their team must conform to the clan's style of play or face verbal defamation. Not to mention the constant "chit-chat" over their mics that doesn't pertain to the current match. Yes, they can be muted but that limits the spread of useful information too.
There are always exceptions (and my description might be an exception as opposed to the norm) and I won't say all clans are bad or good or single out any specific clans or whatnot. I'm just pointing out a perspective.
everyones so nice <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo-->
*hands out free marine snacks*
flys off <!--emo&::lerk::--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/lerk.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='lerk.gif' /><!--endemo-->
never tried tfc in a clan.... hope its better then a pub :x
Don't hurt me...
What are you talking about? What rules? What rules hold you back from joining? Most clans I've joined don't have any "official" rules, it's simply presumed that you can do your part in the clan, that is, showing up for scrims, matches, etc. etc. When you sign up for a clan, you take up a new responsibility. If you can't handle this responsibility, or "rules" as you call it, what can you handle?
Now before anyone dares say that all clannies are careless morons, let me just point out that some of the best, most friendly, funniest people I've ever met have been through the ns clan community. Ya, I've met my share of suck-a-****-coz-im-better-then-you morons, but the good people I've met make up for it. I consider at least some of the members of my clan to be friends, and the rest I'm sure I'll be friends with in a week or so.
Finally everyone (and I mean <b>every</b>one. Yes that's right, every single damn one of you not a single exception) in NS that is in a clan eventually develops a MAJOR attitude problem. They become an ****, they **** and whine about how they're better then such-and-such, and I will NEVER associate with such people.
Congrats though? <!--emo&:D--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--> <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
They get the attitude from being accused of cheating scripts etc, whatever the random pubber says about them. I'd get a little angsty too.
I've only been in 1 and a half clans, its a lot of fun, the only thing I don't like is not knowing everyone right away, getting used to new people sometimes can be a bit awkward. I've never been invited into a clan before, although Its not like I'm bad at ns, as Im sure some of the people here can attest to <!--emo&:p--><img src='http://www.unknownworlds.com/forums/html//emoticons/tounge.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='tounge.gif' /><!--endemo-->. To each his own I guess, no need to get up in arms about it..
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lol
<3
What are you talking about? What rules? What rules hold you back from joining? Most clans I've joined don't have any "official" rules, it's simply presumed that you can do your part in the clan, that is, showing up for scrims, matches, etc. etc. When you sign up for a clan, you take up a new responsibility. If you can't handle this responsibility, or "rules" as you call it, what can you handle?
Now before anyone dares say that all clannies are careless morons, let me just point out that some of the best, most friendly, funniest people I've ever met have been through the ns clan community. Ya, I've met my share of suck-a-****-coz-im-better-then-you morons, but the good people I've met make up for it. I consider at least some of the members of my clan to be friends, and the rest I'm sure I'll be friends with in a week or so. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Last clan I tried to join said I had everything to be qualified for the clan it's just that my timezone would mess everything up. What's ridiculous is that it was the summer time and I was willing to stay up late to make the scrims.
What are you talking about? What rules? What rules hold you back from joining? Most clans I've joined don't have any "official" rules, it's simply presumed that you can do your part in the clan, that is, showing up for scrims, matches, etc. etc. When you sign up for a clan, you take up a new responsibility. If you can't handle this responsibility, or "rules" as you call it, what can you handle?
Now before anyone dares say that all clannies are careless morons, let me just point out that some of the best, most friendly, funniest people I've ever met have been through the ns clan community. Ya, I've met my share of suck-a-****-coz-im-better-then-you morons, but the good people I've met make up for it. I consider at least some of the members of my clan to be friends, and the rest I'm sure I'll be friends with in a week or so. <!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Last clan I tried to join said I had everything to be qualified for the clan it's just that my timezone would mess everything up. What's ridiculous is that it was the summer time and I was willing to stay up late to make the scrims. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
Oh I see, one clan says it all for all clans.
I find most people who are 'against' clans are the ones who have little to no experience with clans.
It's rather appalling at the level of ignorance you guys carry.